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...imagine in 1 or 2 or 3 hundred years going to these places and meeting new species....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16040655

mind blowing.

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By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 05 Dec 11 20:08
3 legged kinky space creatures with devil like appetite for strap - on buggery..

Not really my preferred holiday destination. I will stick to Cleethorpes.
By:
themightymac
When: 05 Dec 11 20:20
Travelling at the speed of light (186,000 mps)it would take 600 years to reach there. Impossible, even when one takes into account that the ageing process slows down when travelling at speed of light. Unless one believes in warp drives! Laugh Beam me up Scotty! Whoops
By:
Make my hay
When: 05 Dec 11 20:24
Maybe we call meet them half way, that would cut the journey down to just 300 years.
By:
Make my hay
When: 05 Dec 11 20:24
*could
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 05 Dec 11 21:16
We should build a portable space Travelodge for meeting purposes. Just in case we dont get on the 3 legged/headed feckers.
By:
Angry Monkey
When: 05 Dec 11 21:57
egner (and others), you do understand that even if the universe was infinite (which is up for debate) that there is no reason that there is any other life out there? Especially anything advance beyond single cells etc.

Possible, yes, but a certainty it is not.
By:
Lix
When: 05 Dec 11 22:24
cryogenics could freeze us while we travelled there. either that or we build huge spacecraft and breed on board for many generations. As long as we dont wipe each other out here on earth 1st its a pretty short price we'll get there one day.
By:
boggle
When: 06 Dec 11 00:27
It's all sorted out. We send out nanobots propelled by the magentic field of Jupiter (which is many times more powerful than its gravitational field). This will get them up close to the speed of light. They will then spread out through the galaxy and land on planets. On those that are ‘Goldilocks’ planets, the pre-programmed bots will build everything we need.

Instead of going there ourselves, we’ll email our DNA by laser and the nanobots will use the code to create versions of us there. So initially it’ll take hundreds of years, but after that it’ll be a walk in the park.

I expect this technology to be ready no later than in a year or two.
By:
Ivor
When: 06 Dec 11 01:07
Poor sunset will have to buy a new bible or re-interpret his old one. Ah - so THAT's what they meant by angels from heaven!
By:
Ivor
When: 06 Dec 11 01:09
Dear Angry Monkey - humans are the newbies on the block. Anything 'out there' would more likely be greatly ahead not behind us .
By:
Angry Monkey
When: 06 Dec 11 01:45
...or at the same point in time, or non existsnt.
By:
Angry Monkey
When: 06 Dec 11 01:46
where time, also read development/evolution.
By:
polybot
When: 06 Dec 11 02:09
Kepler 22-b not that great imo, Rarotonga was better.
By:
themightymac
When: 06 Dec 11 03:43
although 600 years would pass on Earth during the flight in a spaceship travelling at the speed of light to Kepler 22-b, astronauts on board would only age 45mins, according to Einstein`s theory on time dilation.

assuming the ship immediately turned round and returned to Earth at speed of light, astronauts would age by just 90mins and arrive back 1200 years in the future, according to same time dilation theory.

conclusion: travelling at speed of light is like travelling in a time machine into the distant future.
By:
pumphol.
When: 06 Dec 11 08:56
How much would you age then if you stopped of at the planet for a pee ?
By:
Ken Masters
When: 06 Dec 11 10:12
Mightymac - Presumably if you wanted to get back to the current time (give or take 90 mins) you'd just repeat the journey in reverse gear. Mind you, an hour and a half looking over your shoulder would be tricky, I'd probably just stay in the future.
By:
giggitygiggity
When: 06 Dec 11 10:51
Hopefully we might bump into hot evil alien chicks on the way like Princess Aura from Flash Gordon and Ursa from superman 2 LoveLoveLove


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNSuLsiTidQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3B44X12Uyg
By:
egner
When: 20 Dec 11 21:24
..they have found some more....fascinating stuff.....

imagine the discoveries that will be made in 10...20 ..30..100..200 years...

mind boggling...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16268950
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 20 Dec 11 21:30
Angry Monkey - on the contrary, if the universe were infinite, scientists believe that not only would the universe be teeming with life, there is a double of all of us sitting somewhere else reading this forum.
By:
Ivor
When: 20 Dec 11 21:40
Correct me if I'm wrong - but I thought they have already 'seen' the outer most object beyond which there is nothing at all...obviously Grin
By:
Ovalman.
When: 20 Dec 11 21:42
Finite and unbounded ^^^

It has a certain size but has no edge, a bit like the Earth but from the inside.
By:
carvoeiro
When: 20 Dec 11 21:47
Are there any landlocked countries on there ?
By:
carvoeiro
When: 20 Dec 11 21:47
Are there any landlocked countries on there ?
By:
Ovalman.
When: 20 Dec 11 21:50
.
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/

The 2 planets announced today are actually true Earth sized and the smallest planets yet discovered. They are not in the "habitable zone" where water can exist as a liquid but I think it's only a matter of time before we find many Earth twins.
By:
egner
When: 20 Dec 11 21:55
..amazing stuff.
By:
egner
When: 31 Jan 12 23:14
super amazing...yep
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 01 Feb 12 00:16
It will freak us out once we do find another planet streaming with life. Millions of strange,ugly, poisonous and deadly creatures which David Attenborough  has no idea about. There is probably trillions upon trillions of different types of plants and insects which we no nothing about.

But whats the odds of highly evolved monkeys being the dominant ones? It could be highly evolved insects who are dominant. That would scare the shitt out of us for sure. Im nervous already.
By:
twomatchpoints
When: 01 Feb 12 00:23
Ovalman.
The 2 planets announced today are actually true Earth sized and the smallest planets yet discovered. They are not in the "habitable zone" where water can exist as a liquid but I think it's only a matter of time before we find many Earth twins.


If there are 2 others, won't we be triplets ?  Silly
By:
danniellasmincepies
When: 01 Feb 12 05:26
I still have nightmares about the Zanti Misfits from The Outer Limits
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyvR-lQwNzM
By:
egner
When: 03 Feb 12 19:44
..another candidate...great stuff.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/02/120202-new-planet-super-earth-habitable-zone-life-space-science/
By:
Ovalman.
When: 03 Feb 12 19:57
Are you on Twitter Egner? Just got a tweet for the same story from the Seti Institute.

Full story:

A potentially habitable alien planet — one that scientists say is the best candidate yet to harbor water, and possibly even life, on its surface — has been found around a nearby star.

The planet is located in the habitable zone of its host star, which is a narrow circumstellar region where temperatures are neither too hot nor too cold for liquid water to exist on the planet's surface.

"It's the Holy Grail of exoplanet research to find a planet around a star orbiting at the right distance so it's not too close where it would lose all its water and boil away, and not too far where it would all freeze," Steven Vogt, an astronomer at the University of California, Santa Cruz, told SPACE.com. "It's right smack in the habitable zone — there's no question or discussion about it. It's not on the edge, it's right in there."

Vogt is one of the authors of the new study, which was led by Guillem Anglada-Escudé and Paul Butler of the Carnegie Institution for Science, a private, nonprofit research organization based in Washington, D.C.

"This planet is the new best candidate to support liquid water and, perhaps, life as we know it," Anglada-Escudé said in a statement.

An alien super-Earth
The researchers estimate that the planet, called GJ 667Cc, is at least 4.5 times as massive as Earth, which makes it a so-called super-Earth. It takes roughly 28 days to make one orbital lap around its parent star, which is located a mere 22 light-years away from Earth, in the constellation Scorpius (the Scorpion).

"This is basically our next-door neighbor," Vogt said. "It's very nearby. There are only about 100 stars closer to us than this one."

Interestingly enough, the host star, GJ 667C, is a member of a triple-star system. GJ 667C is an M-class dwarf star that is about a third of the mass of the sun, and while it is faint, it can be seen by ground-based telescopes, Vogt said. [Gallery: The Strangest Alien Planets]

"The planet is around one star in a triple-star system," Vogt explained. "The other stars are pretty far away, but they would look pretty nice in the sky."

The discovery of a planet around GJ 667C came as a surprise to the astronomers, because the entire star system has a different chemical makeup than our sun. The system has much lower abundances of heavy elements (elements heavier than hydrogen and helium), such as iron, carbon and silicon.

"It's pretty deficient in metals," Vogt said. "These are the materials out of which planets form — the grains of stuff that coalesce to eventually make up planets — so we shouldn't have really expected this star to be a likely case for harboring planets."

The fortuitous discovery could mean that potentially habitable alien worlds could exist in a greater variety of environments than was previously thought possible, the researchers said.

"Statistics tell us we shouldn't have found something this quickly this soon unless there's a lot of them out there," Vogt said. "This tells us there must be an awful lot of these planets out there. It was almost too easy to find, and it happened too quickly."

The detailed findings of the study will be published in the Astrophysical Journal
By:
egner
When: 03 Feb 12 20:05
..that is amazing stuff ovalman.....

so in cosmic terms it is right next door...almost as close as you can get...

...incredibly exciting.
By:
egner
When: 03 Feb 12 20:06
Statistics tell us we shouldn't have found something this quickly this soon unless there's a lot of them out there," Vogt said. "This tells us there must be an awful lot of these planets out there. It was almost too easy to find, and it happened too quickly."



mind blowing....perhaps drakes equation....if anything..was on the pessimistic side!!!!!!!
By:
bongo
When: 03 Feb 12 20:11
It would be so cool if the Gaia principle actually worked on other planets in the habitable zone, and that we should expect to find a breathable atmosphere. If 02 goes too high, you get forest fires and other reactions that take the O2 % downwards, if O2 goes too low ( so CO2 goes up ) then lower life-forms go reproductive crazy and start returning O2 back to the atmosphere.
By:
desperatemunter
When: 03 Feb 12 20:17
if its a rocky planet thats a start - a transit will establish it (according to the article).
A small pair of orange dwarfs also orbiting the central star would make for unusual conditions.
By:
man of many moods
When: 03 Feb 12 20:19
Has Richard Branston started selling tickets yet?
By:
bongo
When: 03 Feb 12 20:22
If Branston gets there first and finds an acidic high pressure atmosphere then we'd have a Branston Pickle.
That was awful I know.
By:
egner
When: 03 Feb 12 20:23
Laugh
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 03 Feb 12 21:47
There is probably trillions upon trillions of life forms out there.

In years to come great grand children will have a chuckle at our expense for even doubting it. The Christians will have cosmetic surgery to hide their sorry identities.
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