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Is Noel Gallagher the greatest songwriter that ever lived?

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By:
cooperman
When: 29 Oct 15 14:05
Nice to see a 'thread rescue' by the coach...... Benny Hill a shokin omishun.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 29 Oct 15 14:24
HAL DAVID - best lyrics - burt bacharach would've bombed without Hal.

you have all the time in the world.
By:
TheChaser
When: 29 Oct 15 15:53
Brown/Squire for the Roses

Take some LSD and let the games begin

Even the really older punkier stuff is good , garage flower and such

youube is a godsend for stone roses fans and all others ofcourse but its played nowhere else really
By:
TheChaser
When: 29 Oct 15 15:57
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There is no correct answer, but imo no. He has written some classics but will they stand the test of time? how long is the test of time ?

anyway for what its worth here are my top 3 writers

Bernie Taupin
Lennon McCartney (counting this as one)
Elvis Costello



Not sure how long the test of time is , but Stone Roses songs still sound up to date and ahead of the p1sh today lol

Noels Oasis songs will last but his NGHFB will be forgotten bar a few

Oasis actually have a lot betetr songs than the ones they actually released on singles

b sides and unreleased are class , if interested ill show ya links
By:
artie
When: 29 Oct 15 17:23
Have you people never heard of Gershwin,Irving Berlin etc.,or do you just live in the world of pop **** ?
By:
artie
When: 29 Oct 15 17:23
*sh ite
By:
TheChaser
When: 29 Oct 15 18:36
Pop is full of americans is it not and djs now pretending to mix cds
By:
TheChaser
When: 29 Oct 15 18:36
Calvin Harris and Rhianna that sort of music
By:
TheBaron
When: 29 Oct 15 18:42
Holland Dozier Holland.  Remember reading the labels of so many Tamala Mowtown records in the 60/70's with those names.
By:
blackbarn
When: 29 Oct 15 19:09
I made a quick but big list THEN went through and crossed out all those that had been mentioned - Crossing out Tom Waits and Richard Thompson was particularly hardCool.  Here is who was left...

Chuck Berry
Smokey Robinson
Robert Johnson
Woodie Guthrie
Willie Dixon
Buddy Holly
Jim Webb
Nick Drake

and finally and by no means least, the best imo that most people have never heard of - Ellie Greenwich (and Jeff Barry)
By:
TheChaser
When: 29 Oct 15 19:19
Whats happened to Jake Bugg
By:
Roger De Bris
When: 29 Oct 15 22:37
The greatest songwriter to ever live is one Stephen Patrick Morrissey.
By:
blackbarn
When: 29 Oct 15 23:05
Roger - two comments

Your view may be a product of your relative youth.
Time is a great determinant of greatness
By:
greenup
When: 30 Oct 15 01:05
Obviously there is only one great songwriter... Simon Garfunkel guy is a legend ;)
By:
Roger De Bris
When: 30 Oct 15 01:58
youth?
I'm in my 40's...
By:
akabula
When: 30 Oct 15 03:49
He writes childish chyte and is declared a genius for doing so. Who? The bag of mince (that'll hurt him Laugh) that is Morrissey.
By:
dos dedos mis amigos
When: 30 Oct 15 11:03
Morrissey has an amazing volume of amazing work
By:
dos dedos mis amigos
When: 30 Oct 15 11:04
are you serious Akabula
By:
akabula
When: 30 Oct 15 11:39
I was thinking the same about your post ddma.
By:
mobo
When: 30 Oct 15 12:15
Sorry chaps - it is Puccini.  Whole fr!gging operas of them.  Some argue it is Verdi.
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 30 Oct 15 12:48
Gilbert and Sullivan
Billy Bragg
John Otway
By:
Roger De Bris
When: 30 Oct 15 13:16
akabula laughable sh8te you write..
By:
crags
When: 30 Oct 15 15:12
Morrissey is a truly great lyricist.
By:
crags
When: 30 Oct 15 15:25
How can anyone not admire this:
=====================================

I was happy in the haze of a drunken hour
But heaven knows I'm miserable now

I was looking for a job, and then I found a job
And heaven knows I'm miserable now

In my life
Why do I give valuable time
To people who don't care if I live or die?

Two lovers entwined pass me by
And heaven knows I'm miserable now

I was looking for a job, and then I found a job
And heaven knows I'm miserable now

In my life
Oh, why do I give valuable time
To people who don't care if I live or die?

What she asked of me at the end of the day
Caligula would have blushed

"Oh, you've been in the house too long" she said
And I naturally fled

In my life
Why do I smile
At people who I'd much rather kick in the eye?

I was happy in the haze of a drunken hour
But heaven knows I'm miserable now

"Oh, you've been in the house too long" she said
And I naturally fled

In my life
Oh, why do I give valuable time
To people who don't care if I live or die?

Songwriters
MORRISSEY, STEVEN PATRICK/MARR, JOHNNY
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 30 Oct 15 16:36
How can anyone not admire this:

Is the answer

'Someone who doesn't like a load of wimpy, half-ar$ed, whiny, navel-gazing, 'ah! poor sensitive me' load of fking boring old w@nk'?
By:
kenco
When: 30 Oct 15 16:44
Great song writer although without jonny marr with those great melodies and riffs wouldn't have existed the siongs were unique but the sound was new and fresh provided by marr at the time...
By:
Roger De Bris
When: 30 Oct 15 18:35
Roger it's all tongue in cheek comedy....
By:
mobo
When: 30 Oct 15 18:39
PUCCINI, VERDI , BIZET.    That's it I win.  End of topic.

Or, ME -  sick, sad, old bore. Out of date and out of here !!!  hahahahah
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 30 Oct 15 19:17
Roger De Bris
     30 Oct 15 17:35   

Roger it's all tongue in cheek comedy....


Which is why it's w@nk


It’s a problem the English have.

The English are terrified of naked emotion.

“They find naked emotion embarrassing so they like their art covered with knowingness, irony, camp humour - anything but doing it like you actually mean it....until it hurts, like it takes to make art that's in any way compelling.

But no, just smother it in sequins and introversion and watch the fey, angsty posers come running.
By:
mobo
When: 30 Oct 15 19:48
How dare you describe me roger.  Consider yourself BUTLERED!!!

but.... Pavarotti and Nessan Dorma is the tear jerker for me. Some of his old recordings - he holds the notes so well.
Some don't get opera then one day - bang it hits you.
You have to have a heart of stone not to be affected by La Boheme - try the  O soave fanciulla duet!!!

Some pop, rock (deep purple) etc etc is rather good, but they are up against soloists, a chorus and orchestra in a performance.
But then so have deep purple done this!! and a few others.(with orchestra)
Queen another good outfit.
and of course mcartney/lennon

Geshwyn natuarally

Gorecki a more modern 'song writer' brilliant.

Derek Doyle    (derek who!!??) more a composer than a song writer as such. Check out what he is behind musically

I have drifted and realise this is more about modern pop/ rock etc than other genres although it shouldn't be.
By:
Roger De Bris
When: 30 Oct 15 20:55
So you never went desperately looking for work Roger, and after you got the job were depressed?

It's something everybody has felt before but nobody has ever said quite as well as the man.
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 30 Oct 15 22:55
Doesn't sound like tongue in cheek comedy much.

Sounds like a boring self-obsessed little twerp that needs some fresh air, Vitamin C and press ups!
By:
crags
When: 31 Oct 15 15:53
Well done to roger for over analyzing things and coming up with a load of bollox Grin
By:
boxingthefox
When: 31 Oct 15 15:56
A very pleasing fred. Grin
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 31 Oct 15 16:11
crags
     31 Oct 15 14:53   

Well done to roger for over analyzing things and coming up with a load of bollox Grin


Yeah - I mean it's only 'the greatest songwriter that ever lived' we're discussing after all
By:
boxingthefox
When: 31 Oct 15 16:21

Oct 30, 2015 -- 4:36PM, rogerthebutler wrote:


How can anyone not admire this:Is the answer 'Someone who doesn't like a load of wimpy, half-ar$ed, whiny, navel-gazing, 'ah! poor sensitive me' load of fking boring old w@nk'?


Impossible to disagree with you on this one roger, not many songs get on my nerves but that load of old phish really grates.

By:
akabula
When: 31 Oct 15 16:23
Roger De Bris  • October 30, 2015 7:55 PM GMT 
So you never went desperately looking for work Roger, and after you got the job were depressed?
It's something everybody has felt before but nobody has ever said quite as well as the man.


Easily pleased sprigs to mind.
and weren't you promoting some average irish singer recently?
By:
boxingthefox
When: 31 Oct 15 16:40
aka, that's the great thing about music, if we all liked the same stuff writers would probably be redundant???.
By:
akabula
When: 31 Oct 15 17:04
I was just replying in kind to RdeBris earlier catty comment.
Doesn't help that I don't like Morrissey. Always found him too full of himself.
I prefer a grittier type singer like yer man Finbar. Different genre but still different class.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 31 Oct 15 18:05
Wink
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