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But when he was back in Holland at Christmas with his family,
he must have talked about this case, must have managed to keep very calm about it, his mother insisted he was acting 'normally' that week. |
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On the night after the office party didn't Jo text a friend to come over. She clearly was looking for some company to send a Friday night with. Maybe it was her going over to him next door, and he saw it as a come one and took advantage.
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'Fancy coming round to mine for that pizza?'
'Yeah could do, I was planning on just having it here with a couple of ciders though' 'Ah no problem, I've got some nice wine in. Come over' |
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very likely the scenario.
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If CPS advised them to proceed with charges, what they have should be pretty good.
Avon and Somerset Police could have applied for an extension to carry on questioning him until Monday. But on advice from the Crown Prosecution Service they decided to proceed with charges. A dogwalker found Jo strangled on Christmas Day. She went missing from her flat on December 17. Tabak returned home to Holland to spend Christmas. Since returning to Bristol, he had been staying at the flat of pal Emily Williams, 31, in Aberdeen Road while forensic police investigated the block of flats where he and Jo lived. |
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After his arrest, detectives tried to pinpoint his movements between December 17 – the day Jo disappeared – and December 19, when the 6ft 4ins beanpole is thought to have travelled to Holland for the festive period. It has emerged that on the night Jo went missing, Tabak was alone while his girlfriend Tanja Morson, 34, attended a work Christmas party with colleagues. Police have studying calls and texts made on his mobile phone throughout the Christmas season.
A police source said: “Detectives have been painstakingly piecing together his movements.” |
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I don't think she would have been able to cross a "landing" to get the the other basement flat. I thought Jo and Greg's flat has its own entrance to the side of the main building, and the other flat's entrance was right around the back.
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TD, his relatives quoted in the press today say he made no mention of the fact that the girl next door to him in the UK has mysteriously disappeared.
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'Fanshy coming round to mine for that pizza?'
'Yeah could do, I was planning on just having it here with a couple of ciders though' 'Ah no problem, I've got some nishe wine in. Come over' 'ok, let me just put my shoes on' 'no, no. let me carry you' |
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More likely to have returned shoes imo.
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returned shoes and keys? what would be the point? It would make more sense to take everything away so that it seemed like she never made it back to the flat
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how many women do you no who,d leave a half finished bottle of cider and their mobile phone behind, bearing in mind plod have continualy said she died in the flat and the parents new the flat had been enterd
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Whilst it may have been all over the newspapers in the UK it doesn't mean there was any great coverage of the story in Holland.
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They haven't continually said she died in her flat, they have said they were convinced she returned to the flat.
Maybe at his, she'd kicked her shoes (or were they boots?) off or taken them off at the door. Once she was dead and the body needed to be disposed of, it may have been difficult to deal with putting footwear back on. Easier to return items left behind to her flat than dispose of them? |
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28 days to charge the man next door with murder, nice work plod.
effin joke, Think about it , all the publicity in the press for cases like this usually means unlimited overtime pay for cops. How quickly would you charge someone if you knew that you'd get a couple of grand for waiting a few weeks... |
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so if they wernt convinced she died in her flat but were convinced she had returned home ,they left the flat next door untouched for 5 weeks, even though they had cctv footage of a car going over the bridge on the day after for 3 weeks
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squares @ 12:35 --
After his arrest, detectives tried to pinpoint his movements between December 17 – the day Jo disappeared – and December 19, when the 6ft 4ins beanpole is thought to have travelled to Holland for the festive period. Fleet Street's finest at work? The tabloids making sure jurors know he is just as much a freak as that blue-haired wierdo they wanted lynched a couple of weeks back. |
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the police will fit anybody up to close a case
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We don't know who the car belonged to, there is no mention of him having his own car. It appears he took the train to work and cycled around the local area.
I think I read he was due back at his office on 5th January. Residents of the block had been staying at other addresses because of the forensic activity there. He may well have been under surveillance since his return. Surprisingly, this wasn't mentioned in the press ![]() "Since returning to Bristol, he had been staying at the flat of pal Emily Williams, 31, in Aberdeen Road while forensic police investigated the block of flats where he and Jo lived." |
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"Whilst it may have been all over the newspapers in the UK it doesn't mean there was any great coverage of the story in Holland."
Bit unusual if he never mentioned it at all (?) Goes back home for Christmas.....girl in his block of flats back home goes missing.... you'd think at some point he would have mentioned it. His brother said his behaviour was normal. "He's a lovely guy, mild-mannered and very friendly." |
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If he went on the 19th, before she was reported "missing" though . . .
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she was reported missing on the 19th and he left on the 19th
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^Well yes, so hope they have arrested the right one this time.
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I'm a "lovely guy, mild-mannered and very friendly". And I recall an occasion many years ago when unbelievably, a female rejected my advances. I thought it very strange at the time, but at no stage did I feel any desire to strangle her.
There's a great deal about all this which still doesn't make much sense. |
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my point is that he could've easily not known that she was reported missing
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If a girl went missing or killed in Holland would you expect to hear about it in this country's press. There you go.
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I'm a "lovely guy, mild-mannered and very friendly". And I recall an occasion many years ago when unbelievably, a female rejected my advances. I thought it very strange at the time, but at no stage did I feel any desire to strangle her.
your phorum name doesn't back up your claims. Where were you on the night in question? |
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You've leapt to a gross assumption there Flea. My 'many'moods' are all positive ones.
![]() And I have umpteen witnesses that night in a bar who saw me make a complete tit of myself by turning round a bit sharpish and sending a tray of drinks flying. |
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What am I missing? He went away 19th, body found on the 25th. Bit of a time gap.
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Incidentally, the case has been quite extensively reported in the media here, so maybe it has in other European countries too?
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nah. I was in Austria and didn't hear a peep about it
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like over here, we only hear about the death of a porn star, not about any murders or missing girls in Germany for example
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Something here is ringing alarm bells.
1) The landlord had absolutely no mens rea to do such a thing, he may look like your classical "looney" but I cannot see him as so. 2) The "Next door neighbour",I just cannot see it unless there is something beneath this web of denial that we don't know. Was she cheating on him? I doubt it. Was he cheating on her??? It seems far to bizarre to be a random attack, something is very much amiss here. |
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Maybe it's just because there's quite a lot of Britishers here. Having said that, UK stories are pretty rare here in the local media.
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you mean they don't report about every c0ck that Jordan has had in her, or every pathetic publicity stunt from Cheryl Cole?
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I agree Aussi. as I wrote above, There's a great deal about all this which still doesn't make much sense.
We don't have the full picture by any means. |
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No Flea, I rely on the forum for all that sort of gossip.
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apparently police have CCTV pic of him crossing bridge in car--and his earlier statement of where he was doesnt match up.
what puzzles me is--if he was a suspect from beginning-why did police hint loudly about the landlord? |
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what are the odds on his plea,still not clearing the landlord police considering their position,could this be a joint venture,how can you charge a man with murder and still not release from bail conditions another suspect,may do him for wasting police time witholding evidence etc
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In the Ipswich murders, the first guy who was arrested (Tom? from Tesco?) was on police bail for nearly 6 months before bail conditions were cancelled.
Arrest of Suspects On 18 December 2006, Suffolk Constabulary reported that they had arrested a 37-year-old man on suspicion of murdering all five women.[1] The man was arrested at 07.20 at a house in Trimley St. Martin near Felixstowe, Suffolk.[37] The detention of the suspect was extended by magistrates by a further period of 24 hours, to the maximum of 96 hours allowed under English law.[38] On 19 December, at 05.00, police arrested a second suspect,[39] a 48-year-old, at a residence in Ipswich, on suspicion of committing murder.[39] The following day, 20 December, police were granted a 36-hour extension to question the second suspect in detention. On 21 December, a joint statement was issued by DCS Gull and Michael Crimp, senior prosecutor for the Crown Prosecution Service in Suffolk, announcing that the second suspect identified as Steve Wright had been charged with the murder of all five women.[40] Police said that the first suspect, who was not officially named,[1] was released on police bail.[40] Bail conditions were cancelled on 6 June 2007 for the first suspect, as no more inquiries concerning the case were planned involving this person.[41] [edit] |