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*****Yeates Murder Case***** (Wed 5th Jan 2010)

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.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸ ><((((º>
When: 06 Jan 11 21:59
she had lunch with her boyfriend at about 1pm ish i seem to remember then she went to pub about 6pm ,, harldy on an empty stomach ?
By:
Stretch Armstrong
When: 06 Jan 11 22:00
well by 8 thirty it would be empty imo i wud be well hungry
By:
GT
When: 06 Jan 11 22:02
agree with stretch
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 06 Jan 11 22:03
It IS possible to go to a pub and not get drunk you know!
By:
Nirvana
When: 06 Jan 11 22:07
Where are we heading, if anywhere, with this 'she might have been tipsy' line?

Let's discuss a motive, or how she was moved from the flat. Surely these are more important.
By:
tobermory
When: 06 Jan 11 22:07
This was the 1974 murder:

http://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/news/8767945.Joanna_Yeates_murder_brings_1974_killer_hunt_into_spotlight/

Possibly the same person, who gets a sexual thrill out of strangling women? Would explain a motive.


36 Year gap would be a bit of a puzzle.
By:
Nirvana
When: 06 Jan 11 22:10
Agree tobes, but it seems a big coincidence.
By:
.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸ ><((((º>
When: 06 Jan 11 22:10
a very lazy serial killer ?
By:
epicurean
When: 06 Jan 11 22:13
Made that point earlier but apparently landlord not in Bristol at that time, tobermory.
By:
.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸ ><((((º>
When: 06 Jan 11 22:14
The media need to be fed some more info ,, they are losing interest,

Nothing on front of telegraph website, nothing on front of mirror website , the sun has a story under main headlines section as does mail,,, story way down on express website , on sky website gone to last highlight in the section
By:
brendanuk1
When: 06 Jan 11 22:15
Motive sexual, has not been ruled out by plod, fits in with what we understand about deaths of women
By:
.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸ ><((((º>
When: 06 Jan 11 22:15
cant see anythign on bbc news website
By:
Ekbalco
When: 06 Jan 11 22:16
Becoming fish 'n' chip papers.
By:
.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸ ><((((º>
When: 06 Jan 11 22:16
cant see anything on ITV website
By:
Stretch Armstrong
When: 06 Jan 11 22:17
fish do you think they should do a double header with Maddy McCann ?
By:
brendanuk1
When: 06 Jan 11 22:17
Story needs to be forgotten about otherwise story becomes one of police incompetance
By:
tobermory
When: 06 Jan 11 22:17
Not that much of a coincidence i'd say . A Large City - 500,000 population? - with 2 similar murders in 4 decades, considering there have likely been 300 or so murders there in that time.
By:
Stretch Armstrong
When: 06 Jan 11 22:18
I wish a had some cereal i've run out but i have got a pizza but twith beer hth
By:
tobermory
When: 06 Jan 11 22:20
Great PR by The Police Fish. Good Point Brendan.

The Media are being kind to them IMO. Police get an easy ride in the papers in The UK. Can you imagine what they'd be saying if Joanna had been murdered in Portugal and we had the exact same investigation.
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 06 Jan 11 22:21
tobes, I suspect the number is more like 100. But most of those would have been easily solved and farther away. So I'd say it's not likely to be related, but possible.
By:
Nirvana
When: 06 Jan 11 22:22
Motive sexual, has not been ruled out by plod, fits in with what we understand about deaths of women.
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Do you reckon it's more a sexual thrill or a rejection thing? You know, she rejected his advances and he turned nasty and killed her. The one planned; the other not.  The rejection theory seems more plausible.
By:
tobermory
When: 06 Jan 11 22:26
There would surely be far more than 3 murders a year in a city like Bristol, Spark.
By:
brendanuk1
When: 06 Jan 11 22:29
hard to say really. They reckon its all about power anyway. Inadequate types want to hurt women and feel powerful for a bit. Cant see that you would kill to protect reputation or something.
By:
leazes67
When: 06 Jan 11 22:32
sooner or later (sooner preferably) the police are going to have to give out information that has so far been with-held.
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 06 Jan 11 22:33
I'm not sure Tobes, population would be about 0.8 percent of the UK...average what about 600 murders a year, so 5 or so would be average for the population size...but would have thought a disproportionate number of those would be in bigger cities, especially London?
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 06 Jan 11 22:35
24 unsolved in the last 60 years apparently.
By:
Nirvana
When: 06 Jan 11 22:37
Also Spark, strangulation is an unusual method of killing someone. Murder with a gun or knife is much more common. I'd be interested to know how many young women have been strangled in Bristol in the last 36 years. Probbaly only a very few.
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 06 Jan 11 22:37
Erm, including one in 1985 strangled with her own clothes!
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 06 Jan 11 22:37
link

http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news/Police-determined-crack-24-unsolved-Bristol-murders/article-1406373-detail/article.html
By:
tobermory
When: 06 Jan 11 22:40
651 is the lowest for 20 years so more like 700+ typically .Making 5 or 6 typical average for Bristol population sizw .

Agree proportionately more in London but i doubt Bristol would be below the national average as you have to consider tens of millions live in rural areas without the sort of crime issues that Bristol no doubt has.

Somewhere between 200 and 30 i suppose.
By:
tobermory
When: 06 Jan 11 22:41
200 +300 ffs
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 06 Jan 11 22:42
It's possible I may be getting a bit over-excited!
By:
GT
When: 06 Jan 11 22:46
yeah sparky that 1985 one...aint linked
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 06 Jan 11 22:50
How so?
By:
jimmy69
When: 06 Jan 11 22:52
I can't be bothered to read through this...has anyone come close to solving it yet?
By:
brendanuk1
When: 06 Jan 11 22:54
looking at the list here, the Glenis Carruthers one stands out as being similar even before you see that its Bristol. There doesnt seem to be that many strangulations

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsolved_murders_in_the_United_Kingdom
By:
Goth 83
When: 06 Jan 11 23:03
That list is poor, there are 2 in Aberdeen alone not on there.
By:
Peter Ridsdale
When: 06 Jan 11 23:09
It is an absolute heap, there's 2 in Derwentside that's not listed.
By:
Goth 83
When: 06 Jan 11 23:11
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8662635.stm

at the bottom of this article there is a list of 'unsolveds' by police force.
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 06 Jan 11 23:13
Could those extra ones be considered mercy killings given the location?
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