if autopsy evidence is showing that the body was stored elsewhere before longwood lane,then i think it rules out b/f doing the killing on sunday night.he would have only one opportunity to move the body.it would not rule out the body being left in the flat over the weekend while the killer decided what to do next.LL and neighbour knew b/f was away for weekend.LL is clearly an intelligent guy.if he had time to let things sit for a day and think things through,would he really chose to move the body and make the mistake of locking the door ,leaving the victims keys,phone,boots,coat inside? did b/f have a window of opportunity on friday night and then left the body in the flat until sunday night?

All theoretical of course, but as they are searching the gun club (allegedly) then maybe they are looking for someone who knew the bf was going to be away and possibly Joanna, maybe someone who is a nosey parker aka Neighbourhood watch, and who may have access to an empty gun club over the weekend.

Both CJ and PS on the local neighbourhood watch team.

Whats this about the gun club? think its pretty certain she was either killed in the flat,poss in a car but doubtful

naydam Joined: 31 Jul 04
Replies: 1580 06 Jan 11 17:53 
KKKAT. She wouldn't need her boots and coat if there is internal access.


re: internal access - i read an article where they interviewed ppl who used to live in the same flat and they said they'd have to go out to get to the mail in the communal area. so i think that might rule out any internal access to other flats.

Agree with those thinking the killer knew Jo.

I'd be shortening the price of the NEIGHBOUR based on bf and landlord's lack of motive.
Anyone heard neighbour's alibi's for Friday and the weekend?

Have we cracked it yet. Seem to remember a lot of chit chatters thought plod was on a wild goose chase, looking for Moat and that he was somewhere else.

Where are we with the screams that were heard just after 9pm on the Friday?

me too,  last year I had to deal with police on a serious matter and it was a real eye opener.. from growing up believing they are 'the best of the best' a wonderful and intelligent bunch,  to finding out they are absolutely incompetent and corrupt.   The police know less than fk all.

I think the reason that it is assumed that the police know who it is and are waiting for a vital piece of corroborating evidence to conclude the case is that otherwise they have acted, since the start, with the most obnoxiously arrogant superiority showing complete contempt for Joanna's family, people physically close to the scene, such as Chris Jeffries, and for the general public as a whole.

Nearly two weeks late and, as I typed above, the only specific things they have asked for assistance on are a pizza box, a vague sighting of a 4 x 4, (it's the freaking countryside ffs) and 12 days after the fact a grey sock!

All along they have been very careful to state that there is no evidence of greater threat to the public, i.e. loan women, which is code for, "We know who it is so don't worry your pretty littlr heads about it".

If they don't know who it is then the general public would have to come to terms with the fact that their general well-being and safety is provided by the most incompetent and clueless bunch of clots blessed with the collective intelligence of a tin of baked beans.... and we don't want to think that.... do we...?

C4 news reported tonight that Chris Jefferies had been in touch via email with a friend and this friend was saying that Jefferies was expecting to be eliminated as a suspect.   If so this is a major shift in the tone of the investigation.

I bought a pizza in memory of Joanna RIP I hope she got to eat some of it They must find who did this horendous, henious crime if i'm allowed to use both words there.You can put a sock in it quiet literally speaking

I didn't buy the same one as hers but won which was like half price in Marks and Spencers and that which is well good innit bro.I've already put the picture of one similar

Any plod on here? must be at least one

Seen some good physic detective work on the Crime & Investigation channel, then we really are fikked if that's the next step.

the murderer kept the sock as a trophy etc, seriously what incompetent are these, they think theyre watching some film

for me they moved Joanna either dead or unconsious to another place. They werent second guessing the police or investigation. They moved her because it suited them and then they dumped her again because it suited them

Aceme: I doubt a female would eat all that pizza in one hit,

Well, she might keep some for brekkie or later, but you can be sure she's not expecting male company if she orders a Marguerita unless it's Elton.

Ekbalco odds,
      Landlord 4/6
      Another  2/1
      Neighbour6/1
      Unsoved  12/1
      Boyfriend 20/1

In some ways it looks to me with all the strange anomalies in this murder case as if the perp has deliberately left confusing evidence to baffle the old bill.  Because, however you try to make sense of the evidence, it just doesn’t stack up to rational thought.  Parts of the evidence look staged to confuse with the intent to get the detectives chasing their tails.  If so the perp looks to have a level of intelligence, seemingly confident that he can employ a high risk strategy not least in moving the body.  Furthermore I would ask has the perp got a deep seated hatred of the police from a past encounter with them, or is he just keen on going into an intellectual battle with them to make them look fools and prove to himself that he can outwit them.

Hang on, the detectives have tails?