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Paid €1.80 for a glass of red wine with a free tapas thrown in here in the Poniente Granadino.
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1st time poster - yes, that's correct! I think like a lot of eating places, they make their money on the drinks.
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I am an ex pub landlord. I spent 13 years learning the trade working for a national brewer, before taking the plunge and owning and running my own freehold for 22 years, before finally selling up last year.
Trust me, when I say this, but it is almost impossible for a pub to make a sizable profit in this day and age. If a freehold pub is charging over what you consider to be a reasonable price, the chances are, it's not the pub for the likes of you, or you really have absolutely no idea of the overheads involved in order to satisfy government legislation. As for tied pubs, if it's a tenancy, no matter how successful the pub is, you can bet your bottom dollar that that because the pub company knows your barrelage, your rent will go up each year accordingly. If its a managed house,then the Licensee (I won't call them a landlord), has no input into the pricing, other than filling in a price survey of nearby pubs for the area manager to peruse. |
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TheCoat is 100% correct and Breweries have also sold their products to the supermarkets at such a low price they are able to sell it on at a price which is less than the wholesale price landlords have to pay for the same product.
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TheCoat - yes, I understand what you're saying.
Further to your comments, it reminds me of an eatery place just north of Romsey in Hampshire where the landlords were doing really well from all the hard work that they put in over many years and were subsequently penalized by having their rent increased accordingly. Basically, the owners of the hostelry gained from all the landlord's hard work, and not the actual landlords themselves. So, they just packed up and left! The place went downhill after that. They tried different landlords over the next few years, but they didn't last very long. It did close down for a while, but I think it's reopened again now, but it's only a shadow of its former self as far as being a place to really attract customers. Great shame - I used to visit there regularly. Their roast lunches were really good and the inside of the pub had loads of entertaining trinkets/pictures etc. It's now pretty stark and bare inside. |
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friend of mine put his redundancy money up to fund his dream of running a pub,took out a tenancy reckons it cost him over £80k in about 2 1/2 years before he jacked it in.never seen someone age so much over a short time now he's completely ****** there must be countless people who've done the same thing because of unrealistic rent & pricing by the pub companies.
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landlords get a sweat on when the water bills go up,
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