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9/11 was it a conspiracy?
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Pentagon Destroys Copies of Controversial Memoir Written by Army Officer
2010-09-25, Fox News http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/25/pentagon-destroys-copies-controver... The Pentagon has burned 9,500 copies of Army Reserve Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer's memoir Operation Dark Heart, his book about going undercover in Afghanistan. A Department of Defense official tells Fox News that the department purchased copies of the first printing because they contained information which could cause damage to national security. The U.S. Army originally cleared the book for release. The U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency attempted to block the book about the tipping point in Afghanistan and a controversial pre-9/11 data mining project called "Able Danger." In a letter obtained by Fox News, the DIA says national security could be breached if Operation Dark Heart is published in its current form. The agency also attempted to block key portions of the book that claim "Able Danger" successfully identified hijacker Mohammed Atta as a threat to the United States before the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks. Note: Able Danger was the program which identified Mohamed Atta and three other alleged 9/11 hijackers as a potential terror threat before 9/11. To read major media reports on the intense controversy around this program (which is likely why the book is being burned), |
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Pentagon Destroys Copies of Controversial Memoir Written by Army Officer
2010-09-25, Fox News http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/25/pentagon-destroys-copies-controver... The Pentagon has burned 9,500 copies of Army Reserve Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer's memoir Operation Dark Heart, his book about going undercover in Afghanistan. A Department of Defense official tells Fox News that the department purchased copies of the first printing because they contained information which could cause damage to national security. The U.S. Army originally cleared the book for release. The U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency attempted to block the book about the tipping point in Afghanistan and a controversial pre-9/11 data mining project called "Able Danger." In a letter obtained by Fox News, the DIA says national security could be breached if Operation Dark Heart is published in its current form. The agency also attempted to block key portions of the book that claim "Able Danger" successfully identified hijacker Mohammed Atta as a threat to the United States before the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks. Note: Able Danger was the program which identified Mohamed Atta and three other alleged 9/11 hijackers as a potential terror threat before 9/11. To read major media reports on the intense controversy around this program (which is likely why the book is being burned), |
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Why did the 9/11 Commission ignore 'Able Danger'
2005-11-17, Wall Street Journal Article by Former FBI Director Louis Freeh http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007559 The Able Danger intelligence, if confirmed, is undoubtedly the most relevant fact of the entire post-9/11 inquiry. Even the most junior investigator would immediately know that the name and photo ID of Atta in 2000 is precisely the kind of tactical intelligence the FBI has many times employed to prevent attacks. Yet the 9/11 Commission inexplicably concluded that it "was not historically significant." This astounding conclusion -- in combination with the failure to investigate Able Danger and incorporate it into its findings -- raises serious challenges to the commission's credibility and, if the facts prove out, might just render the commission historically insignificant itself. The Able Danger team had identified Atta and three other 9/11 hijackers by mid-2000 but were prevented by military lawyers from giving this information to the FBI. The Pentagon...blocked several military officers from testifying...about the Able Danger program. The chairman of the 9/11 Commission reacted to Able Danger with the standard Washington PR approach. [He] demanded that the Pentagon conduct an "investigation" to evaluate the "credibility" of Col. Shaffer and Capt. Phillpott. The final 9/11 Commission report...concluded that "American intelligence agencies were unaware of Mr. Atta until the day of the attacks." This now looks to be embarrassingly wrong. The Joint Intelligence Committees should reconvene and, in addition to Able Danger team members, we should have the 9/11 commissioners appear as witnesses so the families can hear their explanation why this doesn't matter. |
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Just me know Dobbo if you can`t find any more info on Able Danger from the newspapers.
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Just LET me know Dobbo if you can`t find any more info on Able Danger from the newspapers.
Atta known to Pentagon before 9/11 2005-09-28, Chicago Tribune http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0509280150sep28,1,3686073.... Four years after the nation's deadliest terror attack, evidence is accumulating that a super-secret Pentagon intelligence unit identified the organizer of the Sept. 11 hijackings, Mohamed Atta, as an Al Qaeda operative months before he entered the U.S. Had the FBI been alerted to what the Pentagon purportedly knew in early 2000, Atta's name could have been put on a list that would have tagged him as someone to be watched the moment he stepped off a plane in Newark, N.J., in June of that year. Physical and electronic surveillance of Atta, who lived openly in Florida for more than a year, and who acquired a driver's license and even an FAA pilot's license in his true name, might well have made it possible for the FBI to expose the Sept. 11 plot before the fact. Anthony Shaffer, a civilian Pentagon employee, says he was asked in the summer of 2000 by a Navy captain, Scott Phillpott, to arrange a meeting between the FBI and representatives of the Pentagon intelligence program, code-named Able/Danger. But he said the meeting was canceled after Pentagon lawyers concluded that information on suspected Al Qaeda operatives with ties to the U.S. might violate Pentagon prohibitions on retaining information on "U.S. persons," a term that includes U.S. citizens and permanent resident aliens. Asked by Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.), chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, at a hearing last week whether Atta...was a "U.S. person," a senior Pentagon official answered, "No, he was not." |
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I thought we had already concluded that although you are aware of many discrepencies in the official line you do not have a coherent notion of what happened and why.
Its a simple enough question. There is no point in my wading through all the dross online. What I would like to know from one of you critics is WHAT DO YOU THINK HAPPENED..a narrative...a storyline..... a comprehensive overview, given the knowledge that you have (and I dont of course)that should not be too difficult. S****ing is one way of answering of course. I used to do it myself around 40 years ago. |
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Why sn iggering is a banned word I cannot imagine.
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Dobbo - take a wild guess
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Oh FFS. I can barely believe that.Where will this idiocy end?
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Dobbo suggests the newspapers have not highlighted Able Danger, then i post a portion of the articles and he suggests it`s `dross online`
Yet he refuses to post anything to back uphis own doubts about the official line. |
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Dobbo willyou read the articles or not? is it too much like hard work?
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Not really relevant to the main point is it, whether I read a piece or two about a fragment of the story?
What I am asking is quite clear. Can one of you bods who understands and knows about 9/11 give me some coherent narrative of what you think happened. If that is sufficiently persuasive I'll look into it in more detail. I cant understand what the problem is. You must have some notion in your heads as to the sequence of events so sharing that should be easy peasy. |
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he is in denial,has been withdrawn and remote since santa brought him a magic torch instead of a chopper
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Comedy Gold
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Dobbo
Surely it`s over to you to persuade us with your account of what happened. You did did say that you doubt the official version didn`t you? |
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AG another poser occurs to me. If this specific cover up is so well known and provable why,in your opinion,are no high profile enquiring journalists banging on about it?
So i post articles by journalists Dobbo, and then you come back with this. Not really relevant to the main point is it, whether I read a piece or two about a fragment of the story? Horse/water/horse/water/horse/water |
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- conscious and specific foreknowledge of the attacks, i.e., not merely forewarnings, coming from many different sources
- official surveillance of alleged hijackers well before 9/11, stories that cast doubt on their identities and motivations - advance preparation for attack response - advance prep of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq - inexplicable inaction by the air defense system and chain of command on the day - wargames that coincidentally mirrored the 9/11 scenario - obstruction of field investigations prior to 9/11; - after-the-fact: destruction of evidence, silencing of whistleblowers, promotion of people who "failed," lack of accountability, conflicting official stories, obstruction of justice, delaying and limiting investigations, obvious omissions and cover-ups, culminating in the truly farcical conflicts-of-interest and absurd dissemblings of the Kean Commission. All of the above qualifies as treason. |
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I asked you why you thought no serious journalist was digging away at this as the wrongdoing is apparently so obvious. Cut and pasting an article from 6 years ago is not exactly highlighting a press campaign is it. And wasn't the cut and paste from The Washington Post the paper that toppled a president with its rigorous and courageous campaign.?
Thanks for the quotes and questions but they still do not explain what you think was the sequence of events. Excuse me for going on but I am not interested for the moment in your snippets .I am interested in how you interpret those snippets into a narrative whole. Surely its not that difficult. i'll start you come in where you can. Once upon a time, well in September 2011 to be exact............ cue AG |
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Bugger lost me watch but you know what I mean.
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Luckily you did not appear Hillsborough tragedy thread poly denying a cover up, insulting more relatives and relatives of the dead. Shame on you poly.
So, in your imagination, my views on Hillsborough are exactly what the voices in you head tell you but to account for absolutely no evidence to back up something that never occurred you have invented a story (yet again) to support your fairy dust wishes. And let me get this straight, it was only some quirk of fate or the predetermined destiny of the gods that prevented all this from happening but only you can see things that don't exist, yes? The reality you negotiated with yourself is now so real that you appear to be asking for an apology from these relatives for SOMETHING THAT NEVER HAPPENED? *underlining is for the slower kids in the class |
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this pseudo courtship between the planehugger and the truthling is sickening show of a how to hijack a fred
Are these invented words of yours just convenient replacements for infidel, heretic or apostate, and do you believe the infidels should be cast out from the thread (or beheaded)? |
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Evidence of no second plane is further advanced with the fact there is no audio ....pictures showed a plane coming in and hit lower than the first so should have been louder but there is zero engine sound anywhere .No Audio ? because there was no plane.
please explain this glaring anomaly . one of you official fanboys ...come on ? There you go b'n'b first video i looked at @ 6.29 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMQWzdc175A |
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And still Dobbo offers nothing
 Come on Dobbo show us your moves! You say you doubt the official version but don`t say why? Don`t be shy. |
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Until someone explains the inexplicable collapse of tower 7, there will always be doubts, so far I don't buy any argument given, you really do not have to be an expert
I'm not buying into hologram planes though, I think breadandbutter is a is a bit of a nutter |
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Its not really up to me AG.I dont have your expertise and factual information. At the moment the official line seems as likely as any other although it will not be the whole truth.When did a government tell the whole truth? I dont really have a point of view so I cannot promote one.
But you AG..why cant you give a brief summary of what you think happened? Why so coy? You are prepared to cut and paste thousands of words yet cannot post twenty or thirty of the little buggers that summarise what you think happened. Maybe you dont think. |
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http://www.alzheimersreadingroom.com/2010/06/whats-difference-between-alzheimers-and.html
dobbo thinks it was 2011 AyresRock when did i mention hologram ? take the test poly ....  please stop that stuff ....really what are you on about ?  Kelly Brook thanks i will investigate that ,i am trying to find what they should have heard but am struggling to find a passenger jet /commercial doing the speed claimed (500) ...will you accept the fastest avail and we work from there ? |
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never said you did, never mentioned you
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oh yes I did
Someone did I';m sure it was you who mentioned it, if not apologies. |
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so why mention me with hologram ? AG is a plane-hugger who else is a no planer ?
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ok accepted ....but thats you on a yellow
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500mph+ at 300m .. ...is that what i am looking for
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although that shot was from a distance so the whole of NY heard it right ?
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Still Comedy Gold.
Long live Elvis.  |
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i'm not sure what you're hoping to find bnb ? a couple of jet engines with throttles open probably sound .... well just like a couple of jet engines with throttles open? I doubt i'm qualified to make a more precise accurate assessment. Good luck if you are!
although that shot was from a distance so the whole of NY heard it right ? NY is a big place depends how far away, don't follow your point? |
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.I dont have your expertise and factual information.
Can you specify which of what i have posted is factual Dobbo. iyo. You seem to want me to post another 1000 words but refuse to read 50 words. It would be like trying to explain the off side rule to my great aunt Jackie. If you can`t accept the first part then why do expect to comprehend the rest? because i din`t think your mind is open enough. |
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...I believe they were let through...yep.
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Like I said its a simple enough task. You have an opinion on what happened on 9/11. Share it. Why is that so difficult for you. It doesn't matter what I think.I am asking you what you think and have been doing so for days. As I said earlier 20 or so words will probably do.
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By men in suits and shades egner?
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Dobbo i have already posted it ffs. Wake up man
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