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Extraordinary
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Bread&Butter is not Angel Gabrial.
If you can understand this then you are making progress Blacky ![]() |
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Extraordinary
What is? are you sure that you understand your own question Blacky? read it again. |
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A Time magazine article dated August 14, 2005, reports that Weldon admitted he is no longer sure that Atta's name was on the chart he presented to Hadley and that he was unable to verify whether this was the case,
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Any possible reasons why this would be Dobbo?
Because here he is willing to go to the media with his assertions. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x188as_congressman-weldon-on-able-danger_news |
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I'm not going to follow the link because there is always another link and another assertion or denial. As someone said earlier all these claims are 'could be" "claimed""suggested" Some people want to believe the conspiracy and no amount of argument would persuade them that the mysterious forces of the spooks are not involved.Its a dead argument/
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It`s a direct interview on CNN where is claiming there is a cover up. It is a political webpage and not a `truthers` page. This is a congresseman claiming Able Danger cover up.
If these characters are discounted as conspiracy nuts, then were will the truth ever come from? |
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Well you could argue that the vast majority of congressmen do not subscribe to the cover up theory but then I guess each and every one of them will have been leaned on in some way. Curt Weldon looks to me like a typical grab it now politician. He swims in the murk so yes lets discount him as a conspiracy nut.
Where is the truth to come from? Perhaps its too obvious for you to grasp. Woods and trees sort of thing. |
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And where is the wood Dobbo, if it is an analogy for the truth.
Planted in the composted manure of the 9/11 Commission Report? As i have said before they may be covering their incompetence, but when members of an undercover operation come forward to blow the whistle then why is it left out of the Commission Report? |
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Five witnesses who had worked on Able Danger and had been questioned by the Defense Department's Inspector General later told investigative journalists that their statements to the IG were distorted by investigators in the final IG's report, or the report omitted essential information that they had provided. The alleged distortions of the IG report centered around excluding any evidence that Able Danger had identified and tracked Atta years before 9/11. The witnesses reported to the journalists that the IG investigators got increasingly hostile in an effort to intimidate the witnesses into changing their testimony to drop any assertion that they had identified and tracked Atta, and this suggests a cover-up by the IG of Able Danger's findings. Witnesses reported telling Philip Zelikow, executive director of the 9/11 Commission, that Able Danger had identified Atta well before the 9/11 attacks, but Zelikow showed no interest in their testimony. Lt. Col Tony Shaffer also reported that the DOD has retaliated against him for speaking out publicly about the IG report's distortions
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After spending 3 months reading this thread - I'm beginning to warm to the conspiracy theory.
Need a bit more info before I finally decide though |
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anyone else converting ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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dont want the thickos ...they a lost cause and better on the other side
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I believe they were let through......
and the Kenya attacks seem to have happened at a rather opportune time for the President also considering his upcoming engagement...... probably be blamed on an "intelligence failure" though... so that's Ok. |
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egner
I believe they were let through...... me to. |
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no plane no gain
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and the Kenya attacks seem to have happened at a rather opportune time for the President also considering his upcoming engagement......
And you expect to be taken seriously? |
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..I don't expect anything dobbo.....
..mine is one opinion on things among millions of opinions....people can agree or disagree... but if you think that there aren't some people in this world who wouldn't stoop so low to remain in power I believe you are mistaken. ..forgot about the vice president as well by the way!!! |
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@ Dobbo
He got that info from an impeccable source. Elvis told him ![]() |
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....why would I be talking to Elvis????
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One point may be that you simply do not have enough information to justify having any opinion on the Kenya bombings.But ignorance of the full facts doesn't seem to get in your way.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() nice 1 |
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and the Kenya attacks seem to have happened at a rather opportune time for the President also considering his upcoming engagement......
1..the attacks happened...and 2 the timing was opportune...... they are 2 facts..... |
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Hard to argue with compelling evidence like that.
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If there was other evidence aka, then there would be no need for a `theory` to link the facts to any cover up.
People seem to mock theories because they are only theories ![]() |
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Nope. Some are more feasible than others like a cover up of errors over 9/11
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Yes aka a cover up by National Intelligence agencies hiding their phuck ups when tracking the terror cell onto American soil seems feasible.
Then throw into the mix NORAD failing 4 times on the same day to defend American air space and to some theories start to expand that was the original cover up, protecting prior knowledge of the 9/11 attacks, or did NORAD also fail 4 times on the same day due to more phuck ups? The 2 facts here are that the CIA phucked up and that NORAD phucked up? Even if there is no conspiracy of an inside job, who has been named and shamed? No one high up! |
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And the proof of these mistakes is?
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Able Danger whistleblowers
NORAD failing to intercept 4 highjacked planes on the same day. How much proof do you want Aka ![]() |
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1..the attacks happened...and 2 the timing was opportune......
they are 2 facts.....No thats one fact one opinion. Says it all really. |
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At what time did they know the planes were hijacked?
And how long after that had they to act? Mixed info? Confusion? By the way Able Danger whistleblowers ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Why are you laughing at Able Danger whistle blowers aka?
According to statements by Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer and those of four others, Able Danger had identified 2 of 3 Al Qaeda cells active in the 9/11 attacks; the 'Brooklyn cell' linked to Blind Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman, including September 11 attacks leader Mohamed Atta, and three of the 9/11 plot's other 19 hijackers, as possible members of an al Qaeda cell linked to the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. Regarding NORAD aka, a trillion dallar air defense system and you are talking about reaction times ... |
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Mixed info? Confusion?
Yes so they say, it all became so confusing they couldn`t do anything to stop it. ![]() |
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yes dobbo...it does.
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When did they know the planes were hijacked? (you failed you answer that because you don't know)
Did they know before the first one hit it's target? As regards how long dud they have to react. I was referring to the humans ![]() You know, get info, confirm info and assimilate said info. |
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So egner the one fact you have is that it happened.
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yes akubala...
and the date (timing) of when it happened. |
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so that is the two facts on which I have formed my opinion.
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When did they know the planes were hijacked? (you failed you answer that because you don't know)
Aka, was you aware that NORAD changed it`s story and response times? i doubt you actually know very much at all. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Nobody does because there is so much misinformation on the net. You'll get at least 2 different answers to every question and sometimes many more. Good night and long live Elvis. |