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9/11 was it a conspiracy?
9/11 was it a conspiracy?
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Not just that he is attacking he unemployed, which i am not, but i find it quite disturbing that he would be judging someones intellegence by what job they have.
Obviously i have not progreesed enough to be working for the Multi Nationals, to break the system from the inside. Yet i do know about the NWO Agenda but then again i have not been programmed by the maistream media. We will be attacked by these people Gene but it matters not a jot! |
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People that have a shortage of answers always resort to personal insults.
Nothing changes. |
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terrorism is overhyped
at least nuclear armageddon was genuinely scary |
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Are those insults?
I thought you were a fellow-traveller and truth seeker sans pareil? Have I misrepresented any of you? I was merely following your gracious lead, GH, 'the majority of people who share his beliefs ... are invariably of below average intelligence', but it's encouraging to see the irony once more thud into the wall above your head  (If there's a translation available of AG's 18:30 post, I'd be obliged) |
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11/9 imvho
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I can only speak of my personal experience. Almost to a man,anyone I have ever met or worked with that is particularly dumb/slow,consider the possibility of any conspiracy on 9/11 as impossible. In fact,they usually come up with the insults that you are so fond of. |
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But your observations were mere objective comment?
How odd that we should have such diametrically opposing experiences and opinions. I wonder who would be considered the most intelligent poster on this thread? |
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the OP imo
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It may be his finest hour
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Gene Hackman Joined: 07 Feb 02
Replies: 1671 15 Aug 10 20:06 Sunset I don't believe they landed men on the moon in July 1969 because I believe the powers that be have always lied to us if they could gain an advantage from those lies. What advantage? I have read books, and watched documentaries,and listened to people who think that the moon landings were faked. Yes, but you also have to listen to the other side of the story as well. Have you done that? It doesn't sound like it. Given all that I have come to the conclusion that the USA had a lot to gain by faking the manned moon landings in July 1969. What did they gain? And why did the Soviets believe them if it was a lie? By the way,you believe that they DID land on the moon for one reason: Because they told you they did. No I never believe something with out evidence. That would be gullible and naive. You have no evidence, Wrong.Lots of independence evidence of Moon landings For example Existence and age of Moon rocks, Retroreflectors,Apollo missions tracked by independent parties, just like I have no evidence. True you don't have any evidence for your beliefs. Your assertion that it doesn't take much skill to fly a plane at 550mph only feet above the ground and equating it with crashing a car. To be honest,that sounds like you've just made that up on the spot. In fact I won't embarrass you by asking for the source of that ridiculous piece of "knowledge" It's not ridiculous it's a valid comparison between crashing a car and crashing a plane. It does not take much skill. You have managed again to ignore the fact that this plane didn't appear on a single cctv shot and quote one of the most easily manipulated and manufactured piece of "evidence" known to man:The Eyewitness. And again you have ignored the fact that you are arguing from silence.And ignoring 80+ eye witnesses. You are wasting my time.Tell me how were these eye witnesses manipulated and how do you know? You don't. You are just making things up.If it was a missile then produce one witness that saw a missile? How did the government shut them up from talking to the press from the start. The McCanns I have read and watched etc etc and have come to the conclusion that she was killed accidentally. By the way,you believe that she was taken by a stranger for one reason: I have not said that. You are making assumptions again. I am agnostic concerning this case.Probably we will never know the full truth of what happened. Because you were told etc etc. Again wrong. See above. I always do my own research. Read both side of the story ,unlike you. And try to be as objective as possible, unlike you.If I just believed what I was told I would believe that Oswald acted alone in killing JFK. As I have said having looked at the evidence this is the only conspiracy theory that has much going for it. |
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sparkmaster. Joined: 07 Aug 01
Replies: 9967 15 Aug 10 20:14 I would have thought that someone trained to land a plane on a target would find it considerably easier to crash it. I can't speak for SC, but I believe the moon landings happened not because the US government tell me, but there is so little dispute amongst people more qualified to judge than I. I thought the CCTV images had been dealt with earlier? Obviously not because Gene just ignores when his points have been debunked and then start making the same inane assertions again based on his same illogical fallacies. I think the case for a plane rests more strongler on the big bits of plane than it does the eyewitnesses, however numerous they were. It's both. That's how evidence works it lots of pieces of evidence all pointing the same direction that leads too the truth. The McCanns...perhaps, but they behaved very oddly if that were the case. What are you trying to say? |
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Orioles, its about being aware the situation the population is facing.
There is no point in being of `intellegence` without being able to research the areas of your own ignorance. |
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Clockwork Joined: 11 Dec 01
Replies: 1716 15 Aug 10 21:14 I'm still waiting for the answer to my question. Then perhaps we can move on to the next one? How about you, Sunset, or can't you find a link to copy and paste? I don't have a problem with a lack of debris. Why should I? In other plane crashes there have been a lack of debris. Do you think that is suspicious? A plane that is traveling at 500mph is atomized into dust.See the link below. Some thing similar probably happened at the Pentagon and in Pennsylvania. No mystery here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3Mz_zGJmgc You see what I did there. I copied and pasted evidence do back up my assertions. You should try it some time instead of just keep repeating the same baseless assertions. |
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There is no point in being of `intellegence` without being able to research the areas of your own ignorance
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Orioles.... Ignorance meaning lack of knowledge my friend.
.. Do you need to borrow some books on the Origins of War ? you will fell enlightened. It will divert your attention from watching the BBC News !! |
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One always strives to fell enlightened, but I doubt we read the same books.
Blow your horn and let's be done with it. |
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Sorry i ment to say `feel enlightened` my keypad is a bit sticky. A bit like your personality
...Probably right about the books...... good luck with the personality issues.  |
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meant^^^^ silly me
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my keypad is a bit sticky
I assumed it was because you were typing with your tongue, AG. I must say, it hardly seems fair that a dazzling intellect like yours should be further supplemented by a talent for psychoanalysis. If only someone, anyone, would peak beneath that bushel and discover your light. Fear not, though, I think everyone knows what you mean. |
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Nine thank you Gene! And if the majority of people who share my views (who are of course the majority of people) are of below average intelligence it's remarkable how they occupy all the positions of power and authority!
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Unforunately the majority of people still believe the mainstream media. The majority of people probably dont know that Tower 7 collapsed, or about the New World Order. Like i keep saying history explains what is going on. If you are unaware of the connection between the Banking Elite and the Origins of War, then you will be forever ignorant to the Truth.
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It's so much more impressive with a capital letter. Calling normal people stupid and ignorant is no argument though.
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Ignorant just meaning `lack of knowledge` on these particuar subjects Sparky. Im not calling anyone stupid. Im just saying a huge percentage of people who do the research into the origins of war, come out the otherside with a different mindset. It follows a certain pattern.
If you didnt know.. Abraham Lincoln was firmly against the Rothschilds monopoly of the American Financial System ( They created the National Baking Act) creating a central bank that could print money. The Rothschilds then funded the American Civil War, providing weapons and making fortunes. Abraham Lincoln was then assassinated by a Lone Assassin..... JFK was another President who made a stand against the `Global Elite`....get the picture....this is why people in authority keep their heads down, and know to say nothing. Its very interesting if you study it. |
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I await evidence.
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Sparkmaster....do you believe Dr David Kelly committed suicide?
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Angel Gabriel Joined: 09 May 05
Replies: 255 16 Aug 10 11:06 The Global Elite have an agenda fo a New World Order. Certain countries will not entertain this idea. Mainly muslim coutries. Iran,Iraq, Afganistan,Palestine, Yemen.etc....Are you getting the picture? I'm getting the picture that you keep making assertions with out backing them up with any evidence. Also just to add ,most of these Third World countries are rich in natural resources. To convince `us` the people that our countries need to Devide an Conquer these Nations, to install democracy, they needed to convince us that a War on Terror was needed. A False Flag attack of such magnitude was needed, which would reverberate in the psyche of the WORLDS population. Rubbish. America invaded Vietnam because of the supposed domino effect. They invaded Iraq because of the so called weapons of mass destruction. America doesn't need a good reason to invade a country. Why would they plan the 9/11 attacks so they can justify invading Afghanistan which is not known for it's natural resources. Think about it? Even the date 9/11 was chosen to remain forever in our psyche. Yet more imbecilic assertions. From the Aeroplanes crashing into the Twin Towers and then as the World watched live on TV.......the crescendo..... of the Towers collapsing into their own footprint ....and a clouds of pulverised concrete dust engulfing everybody on the streets of New York City...................quick lets invade Iraq...........coming to a cinema near you. Except they invaded Afghanistan you numpty. This is why they didnt just simply plant WMD in Iraq. It wouldnt have been enough to convince the people. Convince them of what that they weren't lying |
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Angel Gabriel Joined: 09 May 05
Angel Gabriel Joined: 09 May 05 Replies: 255 16 Aug 10 11:27 By the way Sparky...the share holders with the weapon manufacturers are the ones who benefit from wars. Yes you have it, members of the Global Elite, its the same with the big Pharmaceutical companies. Origins of War Sparky, educate yourself. Its good for you. So any one can be apart of the global elite then because any one can become a shareholder. Right got it. |
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dont_stop_winning Joined: 10 Aug 10
Replies: 104 16 Aug 10 11:53 Angel....there are two types of people in this world, those like yourself who have the intelligence to see through the shyte fed to the masses and those that buy it all wholesale because their tiny brains can't handle the truth. Thankfully, your type are on the increase worldwide. Keep spreading the word. lol |
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Hi Gene Hackman
I think if we can somehow get people like Sparky, just to expand the bouderies of their mind, just a little, then they may start to see beyond how the media tells us to think. I don't listen to the media. I don't even buy a newspaper because they are a waste of money.As i keep saying i do my own research and don't take any one's word for any thing. Not your or any one that believes the 9/11 official version. I'm only interested in facts, evidence and truth like the vast majority of reasonable people in this world. For me it was reading up on the Origins of War and how the Financial/Global Elite can control just about everything. What is your source for this? See what I did there. I asked for evidence? I asked for a source. I asked for you to give some facts to back up your lame assertions that you keep making. It's like talking to a brick wall. Once you realise these Global Elite are pushing an Agenda forward to form a New World Order then accepting 9/11 was a false flag attack becomes easier to accept. Yes I've heard this many times, but still waiting for some evidence too be presented. Considering it was the biggest crime scene of all time, the American authorities, wasted no time in destoying as much evidence as possible, and as quick as possible. What evidence are you talking about? If Sparky and company would just forget what they have been told by the media and research the origins of war, with a clear mind, then i am sure that they are intellegent enough to start questioning who and what benefits from these events, and what the end game really is. Why don't you give us a brief summary too get us going. |
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Angel Gabriel Joined: 09 May 05
Replies: 255 16 Aug 10 18:34 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxnpujfanUM If the so called Global elite had all this power that you talk about you wouldn't be able to post this link. You wouldn't be able to come onto this forum and talk such rubbish. |
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Angel Gabriel Joined: 09 May 05
Replies: 255 16 Aug 10 18:50 Not just that he is attacking he unemployed, which i am not, but i find it quite disturbing that he would be judging someones intellegence by what job they have. Obviously i have not progreesed enough to be working for the Multi Nationals, to break the system from the inside. Yet i do know about the NWO Agenda but then again i have not been programmed by the maistream media. We will be attacked by these people Gene but it matters not a jot! Alright, so your side don't do it as well? You just show how biased you are again. Both sides do it too their shame. |
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dont_stop_winning Joined: 10 Aug 10
Replies: 104 16 Aug 10 18:53 People that have a shortage of answers always resort to personal insults. Nothing changes Yes that's why clockwork has insulted me on this thread. |
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tangsoodo Joined: 24 Dec 02
Replies: 929 16 Aug 10 19:03 terrorism is overhyped at least nuclear armageddon was genuinely scary Now this I agree with. We should be more scared of obesity and unhealthy living than terrorists. |
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Are those insults?
I thought you were a fellow-traveller and truth seeker sans pareil? Have I misrepresented any of you? I was merely following your gracious lead, GH, 'the majority of people who share his beliefs ... are invariably of below average intelligence', Apparently they can call us thick , but we can't insult them. The word consistency means nothing to them. but it's encouraging to see the irony once more thud into the wall above your head (If there's a translation available of AG's 18:30 post, I'd be obliged) |
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Angel Gabriel Joined: 09 May 05
Replies: 255 16 Aug 10 21:31 Orioles, its about being aware the situation the population is facing. There is no point in being of `intellegence` without being able to research the areas of your own ignorance If only you knew how ironic this is. |
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sparkmaster. Joined: 07 Aug 01
Replies: 9983 17 Aug 10 01:19 I await evidence. You will be waiting a long time. I keep asking for it ,but alas none has been forth coming so far. Some thing to do with some books. Not been told what they are yet though. Must be secret. Could it be a conspiracy? |
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To those that believe the official version of what happened at the Pentagon on 911 this film may well challenge your view. It features numerous interviews with eye-witnesses, including policeman and members of the services, whose testimony is contrary to the official story. Of particular interest is the final interview, with taxi driver Lloyde England, who appears to admit that the damage to his taxi was mocked up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5FhQc-LJ-o This is the website of the people behind the film: http://citizeninvestigationteam.com |
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Slarty
Sparky,Orioles and SC will tell you that it ISN'T evidence. If any interviews,witnesses or any official report backs them up,then that IS evidence. Sunset Can you please post your evidence that it takes very little skill to fly a large passenger jet at over 500mph through a city only 80ft above the ground. Evidence please. You can copy and paste if you like. |
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DSW - I'm not sure re David Kelly.
That's not true Gene. |
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You're not sure re Kelly?
So you admit there's a chance that a prominent western government may have committed a dastardly act and tried to hoodwink the public then. |