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Can men truly love women, or is it just lust?

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By:
Capataz de Cargadores
When: 10 Jun 10 15:24
There are men who are motivated mainly or entirely by lust. On the other hand there are women who are motivated purely by money in their choice of a partner. I believe that both of these are in the minority.

Most people genuinely fall in love at some point. We all believe it will last forever when in fact, for most people, love is transient. We fall in love and over time we fall out of love. The problem is we are made to feel guilty for this, and told it couldn't really have been love.

One day we will learn to accept that, like the vast majority of the world's species, monogomy is not the natural state for us. This does not mean we are incapable of love, rather that we are capable of falling in (and out of) love many times over.
By:
BIGNOSEDAVES SPROG
When: 10 Jun 10 15:25
i love my g/f just dont expect your woman to love you back during the menopause grrrr..
By:
annie.
When: 10 Jun 10 15:34
But capataz, what you are saying is that men fall in and out of lust, not love?  Because if they truly loved her, why would they leave?
By:
GranpaChook.
When: 10 Jun 10 15:36
Obviously a p*sstake now.
By:
J2BLUE.
When: 10 Jun 10 15:37
Do you think women are all saints? I have friends who have lost girls because they were too nice! One of my mates would do anything for true love. He got with this girl and he would have died for her yet she finished with him because he was too fecking nice.

What the hell do you all want? We can't win, lets be honest. You all love moaning too much and playing little games!

One more thing, in the middle of an argument, why do you all refuse to tell us what you are angry about, wait for us to make a choice and say sorry then choose something else?!?!?!?!? */RANT*
By:
Capataz de Cargadores
When: 10 Jun 10 15:45
Annie, that's not what I'm saying at all. After the initial spark has gone, you often find that there are more things on which you are incompatible than you realised. That doesn't mean you no longer find the person physically attractive.

You also seem to be suggesting that every time a relationship breaks down it is the man's fault. I am saying that most of the time it is nobody's fault - people simply grow apart.
By:
annie.
When: 10 Jun 10 16:02
Capataz, I am certainly not saying that it is the man's fault when a relationship breaks down.  However, you have said 'after the initial spark has gone, you often find that there are more things on which you are incompatible'.  Surely that means you fell in lust, not love.
By:
iamajambo
When: 10 Jun 10 16:12
annie,

  You have certainly created something of a 'stir' on here over the last couple of weeks and I've noticed(but respect) your refusal to comment upon your age.For what it's worth,here's my contribution:

I am 60 and my wife is 56.Just under a year ago she embarked on a diet and over the course of 6 months did remarkably well,going from a dress size 18 down to someone who can now fit into a size 10.She is looking really great and the transformation has had a marked effect on our physical relationship.Now I guess that this comment might reinforce your views but I think that lust does matter.My wife has many admirable qualities for which I love her,but be it the endorphins,or whatever,my emotional attachment to her is increased whenever we are having regular sex.Also, she is now more confident and assured in herself.

I like to think that I had not been making any adverse comments about her body over the intervening years but am now  effusing over the size 10-12 version, which does us both good.Is this sexist?
By:
MRGRUMPY1
When: 10 Jun 10 16:16
^ There's probably a new man in her life.
By:
iamajambo
When: 10 Jun 10 16:18
Was expecting that comment.
By:
Capataz de Cargadores
When: 10 Jun 10 16:59
Annie, my interpretation of 'love' is obviously different to yours. I am using the word to describe something beyond lust which allows two people to live together in harmony (and yes have sex) over a period of time. No matter how well this works at first, cracks eventually appear and they tire of each others company.

You're using 'love' as an idealistic concept where two people find 'the one', neither change over time and neither meet anyone else who could possibly be even more suited to them.

If this is what you mean then I agree, 99% of men can't truly love women. But guess what? 99% of women can't truly love men either.
By:
annie.
When: 10 Jun 10 17:02
Jambo, you are one of the nicest men on here.  Of course lust matters, I never said it did not.  But men, I think, fall in lust much more easily than women.  I do not think you are sexist at all.  After all you stayed with your wife when she was a size 18, now you are reaping the reward for it.  She sounds like she is a lucky woman  Happy
By:
annie.
When: 10 Jun 10 17:04
Who else are you, capataz?
By:
kenny mann
When: 10 Jun 10 17:08
iamajambo Joined: 13 Mar 05
Replies: 706 10 Jun 10 16:12 
annie,

  You have certainly created something of a 'stir' on here over the last couple of weeks and I've noticed(but respect) your refusal to comment upon your age


She's 51 iam' said so a while ago.
By:
annie.
When: 10 Jun 10 17:11
Sorry, kenny, I do not know where you picked that up, but that is not my age.Happy
By:
kenny mann
When: 10 Jun 10 17:16
22 then?
By:
Capataz de Cargadores
When: 10 Jun 10 17:16
61?
By:
mythical prince
When: 10 Jun 10 17:16
annie is a bloke 1.01
By:
crags
When: 10 Jun 10 17:17
agreed
By:
kenny mann
When: 10 Jun 10 17:17
you're always asking people their age, but never reveal your own, with respect.[:o]
By:
annie.
When: 10 Jun 10 17:17
No, kenny

No, capataz

No, mythical prince
By:
annie.
When: 10 Jun 10 17:19
If you think I am a man, crags and mythical prince, then I do not think you have known many women.
By:
kenny mann
When: 10 Jun 10 17:20
ok, prove it, name 3 knitting terms.
By:
crags
When: 10 Jun 10 17:27
He's googling right now
By:
kenny mann
When: 10 Jun 10 17:31
lol
By:
annie.
When: 10 Jun 10 17:33
I do not knit, kenny.  Happy
By:
annie.
When: 10 Jun 10 17:34
Come to think of it I am enough of a woman to remember, purl one, cast on, cast off - okay?
By:
annie.
When: 10 Jun 10 17:39
If I was a man I would pretend to be like greggs was, in her twenties and apparently looking like  a film star - not an older woman, because chit chatters loathe older women.
By:
GranpaChook.
When: 10 Jun 10 17:41
I'm partial to the odd milf actually.
By:
annie.
When: 10 Jun 10 17:43
It is your lucky day, then  Happy
By:
GranpaChook.
When: 10 Jun 10 17:46
The old lucky socks never fail.  Haven't worn them for a week. Pull em when the chips are down and bang, I'm in there. [:)]
By:
annie.
When: 10 Jun 10 17:48
Laugh
By:
GranpaChook.
When: 10 Jun 10 17:52
This thread has taken a turn for the worse I fear.  Annie, please remember that I am 1) male (sexist pig) and 2) 24 years old (thick as pig sh*t).

Order should be restored.  Carry on.
By:
annie.
When: 10 Jun 10 18:00
Laugh
By:
annie.
When: 10 Jun 10 18:02
Men in their twenties still ask me if they could walk me home and have a coffee - how kind of them  Silly
By:
ROFLCOPTERS
When: 10 Jun 10 18:04
so you're at least 70 then
By:
annie.
When: 10 Jun 10 18:08
Canaryboy, you are strange.  Did you not get the joke?  What man in his twenties would walk a woman of seventy home?
By:
ROFLCOPTERS
When: 10 Jun 10 18:10
one that thought she looked very confused and needed assistance

why would age make a difference

you appear to have a lot of hang ups about age and refuse to answer how old you are yet are more than happpy to request it from everyone else

speaks volumes!
By:
annie.
When: 10 Jun 10 18:15
Canaryboy, so you have never asked to walk a woman home after meeting her at a pub?  And then when you have arrived at her place said ' can I come up for coffee'?  And you are 32?  Have you ever been out with a woman, canaryboy?
By:
ROFLCOPTERS
When: 10 Jun 10 18:20
a) i am not 32
b) i don't drink coffee
c) erm we were talking about a 70 year old LOL

have you forgotten all the times you've refused to divulge your age?

maybe you are 70?LaughShocked
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