BonViv, that seems like such a clinical assessment. Do you feel love or is a relationship just a means to an end?

Bit of both pixie to be totally honest,but yes i love her she's a diamond (also a high earning one and mother to my son)however,though id never dream of intentionally hurting her ultimatley im a man and therefore always one eye out for a little sport on nights out etc(gentlemans discretion and all that)

I guess it does make me a bit of a cad but i just like to squeeze out all the pleasure i can from life.

yes,you never know where those filthy green fingers have been [:o]

BonViv, ok you say it's with discretion. So are you happy for her to do likewise - with discretion?

I'm worth more dead than alive, but I trust her, and don't employ a food taster.


Mr Winkle, great post and I'm lucky enough to be in the same boat as you.

With time everything changes.  And generally not for the better.  Men are programmed to spread their seed as widely as possible.  Women are programmed to accept the best quality sperm.  Theoretically men can impregnate thousands of women in a lifetime.  Women can bear a maximum of maybe 20 or so babies?  Historically most would die in childbirth before double figures.  Consequently women take sex rather more seriously than men. Including the stratagem where they marry the solid home-supporting guy while getting pregnant by the handsome cad.  So women naturally take relationships more seriously.  Except the ones with higher than normal testosterone levels.

I've known a few relationships where you could say it's an until-death-partnership(none mine).  Though as most were previously divorced it's not as clear-cut as you might wish.  Think about it, there are some 3 billion women on the planet.  There must be thousands who you would love to live with until the grave beckons - but statistically, you wont meet any of them.  Hey - make do.  And, consequently, the high divorce rate - as one or other meet someone verging on the fringe of the ideal thousands.

As for appearance?  We're as shallow as the oceans on Mars. All the women we get threads about on here are Velociraptors in disguise.  Superficially beautiful but meat-eating lizards on the inside.  If you had to live with them for a year you would bite your own veins out to escape.  For some reason we're stuck on symmetry and some rancid idea of beauty.  Intelligence, wit, kindness come a distant second.

Come on, we're a bunch of apes mating at random when we can and without any coherent thought about the future.

And the "with time" stuff at the start of this - that was about when married couples recognize the hole in the centre of their existence.  And either change partners or accept the comfort of the stolid known.  Given the violent and bloody nature of our existence for most of the lifetime of our species, a quiet, comfortable death is attractive.  Especially if you are old.

That's the risk i run Pixie,though unlikley, you can never underestimate a bird for skilled deception.

It's just how you prioritise life really,i like to do the things i enjoy and rogering ladies is one of them.Though i never do marrieds or affairs usually just drunken indiscretions with no follow us.

If a faithfull peacefull relationship is for you or others then thats great,whats good for one not always for the next man.

excellent post bodil.

As for appearance?  We're as shallow as the oceans on Mars.  For some reason we're stuck on symmetry and some rancid idea of beauty.  Intelligence, wit, kindness come a distant second.

Thank you, bodil.  I think that is the answer to my question in a nutshell.

A good summary I think J2Blue.  Also, add that if you are in a bloke then you're a sexist, womanizing pig and if you're under the age of about 35 you're seriously lacking in intelligence.

I hope that leaves plenty of reasons for you to get out of bed every morning! 

22 year old bloke

just passing through

Yes what? No Forum problems?

crags,

Apologies for being so dim.

annie, I can only give a view from my own experience. bodil is a good sort, but he's obsessed with misery and death.

3 out of 3 annie

annie , she's pretty, slim and 13 years younger than me. But, more importantly, she's the sweetest, kindest person on the planet. I'm very lucky to have found her.

Of course she won't believe you!  Her mind was made up before she started the bloody fred.  An exercise in futility imo.

Agreed Chook. Only replies to the posts which fit her agenda!

Sexist!

Why is it silly, crags?  And why would that be a different person?  She would still be 'the sweetest, kindest person on the planet' - surely someone worth keeping even if she is as old as you.  I think you have proved my point - but obviously this has annoyed you