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(yawn) you're not worth my time .... if you wanna act the big man post a phone no.
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ICABOD PEAPOD 30 Apr 00:01
Novice, again i would ask what evidence do you present of any behaviour of any apostles the epilogue[24] of the Gospel of John, Jesus hints at the death by which Peter would glorify God,[Jn. 21:1819] saying " |
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Moonbeam, thats fine! my thread ! so off you pop!, theres a good girl!
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cristo, your long boring rubbish is not even interesting enough to read, god does not exist ok???
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ICABOD PEAPOD 30 Apr 02:20
cristo, your long boring rubbish is not even interesting enough to read, god does not exist ok?? :^0 So there! |
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Ukmalllia 30 Apr 00:02
Does anyone not see the pyramid system side of it, donating a percentage of your wage so those at the top drive the best cars and stay in the best homes You don't think vicars and the like should get paid. Do you want them to live in cardboard boxes? vicars wage £16400 is not alot is it? Many do a good job in the community visiting the house bound and sick. |
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Moonbeam, your wish to collect phonenumbers makes you a scary stalker does it not?, i will give you a ( little) thought!, then i will decide how to proceed, though i tend to do all i can to get rid of perceived weird threats as betfair usually do also!
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ICABOD PEAPOD 30 Apr 00:03
nobody is worshiping caesar as far as i am aware Nobody said they were. the laws of historical evidence are the same though. The earliest copies of Cesar's Gaelic wars come from about 900 years after the events compared to the life of Jesus in the gospels which is about 30-60 years after the events. and very few doubt that the Gaelic wars are an accurate description of what happened, so why doubt the gospels? |
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ICABOD PEAPOD 30 Apr 00:04
anyone able to PROVE god exists please post it now or accept its most likely pretty much rubbish Why are you ignoring my posts? This is intellectually dishonest. |
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the gaellic wars were written by caesar, and it is known exactly why and when they were written by him, try establishing the same about the bible
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maleuk01. 30 Apr 00:06
without a god the 1st law of Thermodynamics is broken! The 1st Law of Thermodynamics. If it states that you can never have an increase or decrease of energy/matter, which means that matter/energy can not be created from nothingness, how did we get all the matter and energy in the universe? If science is all there is and there is no God, then the 1st Law of Thermodynamics reigns supreme and therefore it would be impossible to have matter and energy in existence right now. Simply put, when you open your eyes and see matter and experience energy, what you see is impossible according to the known Laws of science if, in fact, there is no God. Therefore, science itself says there must be a God. I have watched a few trying to get round this by saying our universe was created when 2 other universises rubbed together like membranes and this created the energy for our universe.. Fine so there was energy in the other Univerises then, where did that energy come from? You make very good points. It's usually at about this time that they start to ignore the evidence and quietly begin to slip away usually with some kind of parting comment along the lines of you Christians are all deluded brainwashed Muppet's. Hopefully they will prove me wrong, but I doubt it. |
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ICABOD PEAPOD 30 Apr 00:09
I have not even started yet on fossil evidence as opposed to god creating the earth in 6 days! how long did it take him to create all the other planets! Fossil record alone is evidence enough that the bible is rubbish You don't know the Bible very well do you? The bible itself says that one day to God is not a literal 24 hours. You are also forgetting that time is relative so time passes different from Gods point of view to ours. |
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maleuk01. 30 Apr 00:10
icabod how do you sole the problem of the 1st law of thermodynamics This should be interesting. |
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cristo, so far you have talked rubbish, quoted nonsense written hundreds of years ago, that neither you nor anyone else could ever prove, then crow as though you have won a huge debate, you did not and have not so stop being so silly without evidence... DO YOU HAVE ANY OR NOT??
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This is a massacre of biblical proportions
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slartybartfast. 30 Apr 00:13
maleuk01, I fail to see how the apparent creation of the Universe out of nothing supports the argument for a creator God. The fact that we can't yet explain something does not mean we must conclude that some entity called "God" did it. Because it's a logical conclusion. |
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ICABOD PEAPOD 30 Apr 00:04
anyone able to PROVE god exists please post it now or accept its most likely pretty much rubbish Why are you ignoring my posts? This is intellectually dishonest. He lacks intellect. Not thought it through. Such bog standard resorting to 'prove it' should not be on a thread 300 posts long concerning religion. The kids start that way. |
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slartybartfast. 30 Apr 00:15
sunset, I find your posts, with their liberal use of quotes and bold, difficult to follow. You may get more responses if your posts are more clearly formatted Thats funny because I have just been told on a previous thread to use bold because they were struggling to follow my posts. Seems I can't win. |
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ICABOD PEAPOD 30 Apr 00:19
[b] [b] cristo, what i mean is that i believe it no coincidence that GOOD is very very similar to GOD and DEVIL is very similar to EVIL, leading me to believe that both are just caricatures for all that is good and all that is bad just like santa is for christmas and the michelin man is for michelin tyres! There is no evidence for jesus returning to life where other so callled mesiahas did not other than biblical texts[/b]!! And why do you reject these texts? anyone who can name the author of the bible wins my respect as it is all hand me down nonsense through the centuries that was more and more distorted! This is a modern day myth. The bible is actually 66 different books so it was authored by many people. As for it being more and more distorted. What is your evidence for this? The evidence is against it. When the dead sea scrolls were found they compared the old testament to the previous oldest Bible and found that it was 99% the same and it had been copied for 1000 years. And the 1% difference were mostly spelling mistakes. No serious differences. Modern day equivalent would be a cheesy american sit com that tries to ram a message down the viewers throat! hardly makes an omnipotent being a reality however! [/b] This is a bad comparison.A cheesy american sit com is nothing like the Bible. |
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NOT ONE NAME MENTIONED THER AS AUTHOR!, therefore nothing can be verified in any way shape or form im afraid!
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ICABOD PEAPOD 30 Apr 00:28
If it came to astraight evidence fight between Darwin and God , Darwin would win in any fair minded court, what is the problem here! Either god created man in his own image and sent his son to earth blah blah blah! or evolution happened! which is it? This is another common delusion. Evolution doesn't disprove God. Many christinas believe in evolution. Even the Roman Catholic church does. |
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so technically as things stand i could just make up a whole biblical history , full of miracles, wait 2000 years and hey presto!!!!
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sophiep 30 Apr 00:30
evolution is a load of bo llocks as well What makes you say that? What do you believe in then? |
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.... so god looks like a dinosaur or an ape???????????????
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ICABOD PEAPOD 30 Apr 00:31
Novice, so many christians have it completely wrong? and their beliefs must be false? yes Yes could well be. |
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Dobbo 30 Apr 00:32
but bo llocks that took a billion years to from What are you trying to say? |
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Are you Jimmy Reppin sunset? no harm no foul, just wondrin ;)
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ICABOD PEAPOD 30 Apr 00:34
i cannot be bothered to read that but would ask..... WHO SAYS? and where is their proof plase? If you can't be bothered then that is your problem right there. |
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Mmmm my thoughts also.
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ICABOD PEAPOD 30 Apr 00:35
cristo, how can you be brainwashed into being left to your own devices to come to any conclusion your life experiences may lead you to This is not how atheists bring their kids up.They are some of the most prejudiced people I have ever been unfortunate enough to talk to. |
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ICABOD PEAPOD 30 Apr 00:38
WHICH GOD IS CORRECT ???? JEWISH, MUSLIM. CHRISTIAN OR THE MYRIAD OF OTHERS, they cannot all be correct so which is it please This has already been answered. |
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Okay ,this bloke ( sunset) is obviously going thru the posts chronologically.
makes for no discussion. Goodnight |
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cristo, there is no REAL evidence for Jesus walking around 2000 years ago any more than there is for the dozen other messiahas at the time , you can quote texts etc etc, but the fact is there is no proof whatsoever of any messiaha, and were he to appear today like the one in Russia, he would be laughed off as a fake!
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ICABOD PEAPOD 30 Apr 00:40
cristo, saying prayers differently is sort of part of a different belief system , and millions have been murdered horribly by others for that im afraid over the years!... not really any god's best work! Why should God be held responsible for evil things done his name? He didn't order them to act that way. As I have already said Jesus taught us to love our enemies not kill them. This just shows how evil people are and that we all sin just as the Bible says. |
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maleuk01. 30 Apr 00:40
funny thing is icabod most of them are interlinked they are known as abrohamic faiths. Christianity/muslim/judasim are all very similar a few differences on wether jesus was the son of god or just a phrophet, but fundamentality they believe the same thing. Another common delusion.Christians believe in loving and forgiving their enemies. Islam teaches Muslims to kill the infidel. Big difference. Complete opposites really. |
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if Jesus taught us to love our enemies he would have received a very bad mark in school as it is very apparent that he did not do his job too well!
Just interested, if you heard of a new Jesus tomorrow that could not perform miracles, would you automastically believe it or require proof i wonder?? |
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Dobbo 30 Apr 00:45
Icapod your arguements are juvenile compared to the usual God debate I find that skeptics arguments are usually callow. They think like I did when I was 15, but then I grow up. |
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and what proof did you discover then i wonder!! please enlighten us or retreat to the hole most other god botherers go to in silence when questioned!
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ICABOD PEAPOD 30 Apr 00:51
where are you sourcing your information about anything pilate said about anything and how are you coming to the conclusion it is true when it happened 2000 years ago allegedly? Johns gospel and yes it was written by an eyewitness. |
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mr winkle 30 Apr 00:51
If god is supposedly everywhere, why do people flock to churches ? Can't he hear them if they're sitting on the khazi or lyying in bed ? Yes people can pray anywhere. They go to church mostly to be with other Christians |