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By:
morpteh mackem
When: 26 Nov 14 06:44
gus carter
reuben page

in north east
By:
the.mad.dog.man
When: 26 Nov 14 07:58
you win when you lose with margolis and ridley
By:
currant bun
When: 26 Nov 14 08:07
John Parry, South London
By:
twizzle22
When: 26 Nov 14 08:41
I worked for AR DENNIS for 21 years.They were a great company to work for...top rates of pay amongst all bookmakers and they paid us 5%commission on shop profits.Left a bitter taste in the mouth when they sold out to Fcking Ladbrokes in 1997.I lasted two weeks with them before i handed in my notice.Nick Rust(now the new BHA commandant) was trusted with the hand over and what a **** he turned out to be.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 26 Nov 14 08:47
Some West Country names:

Vickers of Barnstaple - "A Sporty Bet"

Peter Jolliffe of Poole - May still be going, but got the account closed letter back in the 1990s

Stephen Little of Bath - Possibly the last bookmaker to try to make an actual book. Statements on yellow paper each week. Got stung big-time when the Brian Wright firm got involved in the Jibereen race. Wright's now inside, but too late for Little, who now arbs on-course.

Dave Pipe of, well, everywhere. Father of Martin, grandfather of David. Promoted dog racing at the County Cricket Ground at Taunton in the 1960s. The dogs used to parade in what was then the nets area behind the Old Pavilion, leading to interesting surface problems for the cricketers. Turned the Old Pavilion interior into a Wild West-themed bar on race nights on the basis he'd found a photo of 19th-century Somerset allrounder Sammy Woods wearing a sombrero. Eventually sold all his shops to Hills to concentrate on the on-course business and on his son reinventing the way you trained racehorses. Kept the one shop in central Taunton, where the pencils were attached to pieces of string to prevent pilfering. Was the last bookie to use chalk on-course and possibly buried in the same trilby and raincoat he wore every day to the races. Always lowest priced on his son's runners, which must have helped keep the business profitable.
By:
dambuster
When: 26 Nov 14 09:03
Tower bookmakers , kent
By:
akabula
When: 26 Nov 14 09:10
McLaughlins (Glasgow) Massive postal business.
By:
dunlaying
When: 26 Nov 14 12:09
Vic Tuhill, ran a super business above a tiny village shop. He took on trainers,owners,jockeys and usually beat them.
Gone but not forgotten.
By:
Capt__F
When: 26 Nov 14 12:27
Gill from Robbie Box
By:
uncle nasty
When: 26 Nov 14 12:35
big deal was the prog
By:
bix
When: 26 Nov 14 15:48
How things have changed. We used to have thousands of local bookies but now it's just a few multi nationals who won't take a bet they think might win.
We used to bet with our local bookie (Bates Bros Bham) and got to know him quite well. My dad was very shrewd on the horses and used to win a lot of money off him. When he had a good win he didn't pick up the money for a while because he felt a bit bad about taking a lot of money of someone he considered a mate. He explained this to the bookie one day and the bookie said dont ever feel bad about picking up your winnings. We know how good you are and either back the same horses ourselves or lay them off and earn some commission.
Things aint what they used to be.
By:
hologon
When: 26 Nov 14 19:27
esal
By:
themightymac
When: 26 Nov 14 19:33
I used to bet with JOHN BANKS.
By:
akabula
When: 26 Nov 14 19:38
Was thinking of him as you posted. Remember his licence to print money quote.
Sold the shops to City Bookmakers who were in fact really Mecca.
Davy McAllister, his no2, then opened his own shops. The Winner tv drama was based on Davy.
By:
themightymac
When: 26 Nov 14 20:11
Never seen The Winner tv series bula, I`ll need to check it out. Is it available on dvd?
By:
alun2005
When: 26 Nov 14 20:41
Well done Roger for mentioning old Gillibrand of Blackpool. Used to love seeing the old boy just about on the back row at Chelters, ALWAYS offering the 'Betting Without" market. Rasping voice forever calling "Best of the rest".

A desperately sad ending too.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Ring+changes+led+to+suicide+of+frustrated+bookmaker.-a078717431
By:
raspberrybottom
When: 26 Nov 14 20:53
Heathorns
By:
akabula
When: 26 Nov 14 21:27
I don't know mac, checked utube and nothing there.
Davy was a gentleman and a real shrewd punter (horses and football)
He handed the business (5 lbos I think) to his son Shaw when he retired.
By:
call me a taxi
When: 26 Nov 14 21:58
Martin Bailey.
By:
dixie
When: 26 Nov 14 22:00
Mr Eastwood
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 26 Nov 14 22:04
Freddie Williams
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 26 Nov 14 22:05
Tony Morris
Stephen Little
By:
call me a taxi
When: 26 Nov 14 22:13
Shieldian
A.J.McKechnie
Oxlow Bookmakers
By:
DEFCON [1]
When: 26 Nov 14 23:21
Sports.com
Betoddoreven
Set2go
Luvbet
Betsov
Bananabet
Betdirect
SimonBold
WilliamClaridge
JohnWood
PlayboySportsBook
Bet@Home
Premierbet
MannyBernstien
Flutter
Betshop
Play121
Betworld
BlueSq
Betachance
By:
call me a taxi
When: 26 Nov 14 23:36
Didn't know Claridges had packed up.
By:
uncle nasty
When: 27 Nov 14 00:40
cyprusbet?
thought ibetx exchange had gone, but they seem to be called bettor now
By:
call me a taxi
When: 27 Nov 14 00:47
Terry Spinks tried his hand at it many years ago with a shop in East Ham, next to the Ferndale pub. 
City Tote bought him out before the start of the 1970s.
By:
alun2005
When: 27 Nov 14 00:55
William Hill Index
Ladbrokes Sporting Spreads
Cantor Index

All of the above lasted about 10 minutes in the SPORTS spread betting game.  I could write a 15 page thesis about the LSS affair.
By:
akabula
When: 27 Nov 14 00:57
You sure taxi? I didn't think city tote came into being until 71 or 72 when they took over the tote shops.
I'm sure it was plain old city bookmakers prior to that.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 27 Nov 14 01:14
Any of the dinosaurs on here remember John Pegley? Tic tac man and king of the knockout. I used to watch him with eagle eyes and knew when he was at it. Well before exchanges were around.
By:
akabula
When: 27 Nov 14 01:25
Can't say I do Slippy. Do you remember the Nagles (almost sure that was their name) from London.
Grand Met bought their shops in the late 60s.
By:
akabula
When: 27 Nov 14 01:27
Sure it was brothers Ken and Ron Nagle
By:
themightymac
When: 27 Nov 14 02:10
I remember John Pegley and his white gloves doing the tic tac. A real professional.
By:
bix
When: 27 Nov 14 08:29
Incredible to realise all those names are no more. In a few years we could be down to just a handful. Many years ago one of the local independents was always advertising special deals to his punters to entice them away from the big multiples nearby. One day a representative from one of the multiples told him to stop the special offers or the multiples would together offer much better deals until they had closed him down.
A bit like the supermarkets.
By:
TommyBarnes
When: 27 Nov 14 11:47
I liked Surrey in the pre mass internet days their ads in the life and post had a good variety of sporting odds (handicaps, totals etc).  Go into Lads etc in 1991 and ask for points totals on an England rugby match and you would get a look but Surrey would list the lot.

Anyone from Norwich or Norfolk remember the Ted Chapman bookies?  They would often let me have a price even when it had just gone.  I guess Chapman Junior judged correctly that I was a loser. You don't get big biros cellotaped and then chained to the ledges these days.
By:
TommyBarnes
When: 27 Nov 14 11:47
I liked Surrey in the pre mass internet days their ads in the life and post had a good variety of sporting odds (handicaps, totals etc).  Go into Lads etc in 1991 and ask for points totals on an England rugby match and you would get a look but Surrey would list the lot.

Anyone from Norwich or Norfolk remember the Ted Chapman bookies?  They would often let me have a price even when it had just gone.  I guess Chapman Junior judged correctly that I was a loser. You don't get big biros cellotaped and then chained to the ledges these days.
By:
Hound-Dog-2
When: 27 Nov 14 14:17
'West-country bookmaker David Pipe Senior sold his chain of betting offices to William Hill and bought Tuckers Farm, a derelict pig farming facility.


From here, he encouraged his only son Martin, to train racehorses and they started off in point-to-points. Following initial successes in the amateur ranks, Martin turned professional trainer and saddled his first winner under rules, Hit Parade to win a Taunton selling hurdle on 9th May 1975'
By:
call me a taxi
When: 27 Nov 14 20:21
akabula    27 Nov 14 00:57 
You sure taxi? I didn't think city tote came into being until 71 or 72 when they took over the tote shops.
I'm sure it was plain old city bookmakers prior to that.


You may be right.

I moved around a lot and may have the years wrong. When I moved to Cyprus (the district of Newham that the shop was in) it was already there. 

I did shag one of the cashiers though, I remember that.
By:
Capt__F
When: 27 Nov 14 23:54
remember her name ?
By:
themightymac
When: 28 Nov 14 00:03
SSP were a rum lot. Shut accounts quicker than anybody.
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