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By:
squares
When: 13 Jan 10 12:00
Arvo All :D

How are things?
By:
curious-cat
When: 13 Jan 10 12:11
fine here at c-c towers thomas ....




towers of snow that is :)

back nicky's runners :D
By:
curious-cat
When: 13 Jan 10 12:13
have you been watching celeb BB ?

I saw the countdown bit yesterday ............. think I know 4 of them and little of the 2 Americans of those 4.
By:
squares
When: 13 Jan 10 12:15
Yup, busy with all things reality.

I know some of you look down on it but it's the easiest betting medium to make money imo, and I couldn't stick these carp programmes without the betting anyway.
By:
curious-cat
When: 13 Jan 10 12:26
I'm guilty of watching carp as much as the next man t2 ........... think it's an age thing with some shows.

When I watched BB1 I was convinced Chris would win and had long conversations with nieces about it :D ................ don't remember making much money out of it though.

Since then I haven't liked the oddball characters ( wasn't there a bloke who looked like a girl one year ? ) ........ and the fact that they are playing to the cameras and are much more aware of what they need to do to win .........

Secondly I don't like Davina ..............

What I liked originally was the 'reality' which I think there is now very little of.

SB could be a relative :p
By:
Big Charlie
When: 13 Jan 10 12:40
What I liked originally was the 'reality' which I think there is now very little of.

12 nutters whopander to the cameras locked up for 3 months and not one proper fight.

Not much reality there I fear.
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Where's the Oscars betting ?
By:
curious-cat
When: 13 Jan 10 12:53
I've made so much money on the first 3 races that I think I'll retire for the day ..........

or shall I try to get into double figures :p
By:
curious-cat
When: 13 Jan 10 13:53
from h/r forum

2.40 Southwell


SS Vodka 13 Jan 14:18
Mrs Wadham's running well today... BRIXEN for me small win & place.



Ylime 13 Jan 14:25
Mabel Tasman 23 £2.00 £44.00

Brixen 44 £2.00 £86.00

Gl all


Result:
2.40
1st 4 Brixen ................. 33-1
2nd 14 Mabel Tasman ...... 28-1
3rd 8 Poppy Come Running 10-3

Mrs Wadham had 3 runners today ......

12.30 2nd Hoback Junction 25-1
1.30 3rd Aviador (GER) ... 11-1
2.40 1st Brixen ............. 33-1
By:
Capt__F
When: 13 Jan 10 13:55
7l too
By:
curious-cat
When: 13 Jan 10 13:57
Selection Odds Stake
(£) Liability
(£) Bid type Placed Matched (GMT) Profit/loss
(£)
Brixen 36 1.00 Back 13-Jan-10 14:41 13-Jan-10 14:41 35.00
Brixen 38 1.00 Back 13-Jan-10 14:41 13-Jan-10 14:41 37.00

WOO HOO :D
By:
Big Charlie
When: 13 Jan 10 13:57
Timeform

Brixen
Bred to make a staying chaser, cost little at the sales and beaten long way in Irish maiden point, so easy to overlook.
By:
Capt__F
When: 13 Jan 10 13:57
nice 1 cc
By:
curious-cat
When: 13 Jan 10 14:05
TRAINER FORM :x
By:
Big Charlie
When: 13 Jan 10 14:10
KEMPTON

4-15 Class 7 'glue factory candidate' handicap over 7 furlongs

Tadlil has only run over 7f five times in 42 races, all other races over 6f (wins 3......seconds 4....... thirds 4)

February 2009 - 5/9 Wolv 3/1f - class 6
September 2008 - 5/11 Kemp 22/1 - class 6
September 2008 - 11/14 Kemp 20/1 - class 6
July 2005 - 8/9 Newmkt 6/1 - class 5
August 2005 - 6/10 Cheps 5/1 - class 4

Won't get 7f imo

LAY !!! :)
By:
curious-cat
When: 13 Jan 10 15:09
6 Tadlil 9-2 5 9-2 4 :0
By:
Big Charlie
When: 13 Jan 10 15:18
Nice to get it right.

never in the race :)
By:
curious-cat
When: 13 Jan 10 15:19
wd :)
By:
Capt__F
When: 13 Jan 10 15:33
nice won Big C
By:
Big Charlie
When: 13 Jan 10 15:45
4-45

Pulls for head. misses the break, bad draw.

LAYING Place The Duchess :)
By:
Big Charlie
When: 13 Jan 10 15:46
Didn't miss the break

got out 3rd ...
By:
Big Charlie
When: 13 Jan 10 15:47
Was in 2nd - faded

never smaller than 6/1 in running.
By:
Capt__F
When: 13 Jan 10 15:55
on fire C
By:
Big Charlie
When: 13 Jan 10 16:12
Going for the hat trick :)

5-15

Boyles got 3 in this race, one is owned by his wife, but it's not the favourite, Tatawor. He could be up to naughties, who knows ?

Or he may fancy the jolly and have the other two to block in the alleged danger, Torres Del Paine.

trainers in this race
G L Moore - 16% wins
J R**- 11.7% wins
J C Fox - 6.8% wins
R Curtis - 10% wins
R C Guest - 7.7% wins

jockeys in this race
J Quinn - 7.8% wins
L Keniry - 6.8 wins
N Mackay - 11% wins
F Norton - 8.5%
K Ghunowa - 6.1% wins
S J Craine - 12.1% wions
Matthew Davies - 3.3%

Going to LAY the 2nd fav - Torres Del Paine (Fox/Keniry)

:)
By:
Capt__F
When: 13 Jan 10 16:18
well done
By:
Big Charlie
When: 13 Jan 10 16:24
BUZZING :)
By:
panglima
When: 13 Jan 10 16:27
Blimey !
someone's been busy :D
By:
Big Charlie
When: 13 Jan 10 17:11
6-15

Osborne stable has had just 2 winners since July.

His horse here, Prince Yarraman, had his racecoruse debut at 50/1 and was 5th of 10 over 7f here.

Next 3 runs it was well supported at 5/2, 7/2 and 9/4 fav. despite the stables bad record.

This beast must have something going for him to be that sort of price 3 races running.

Been backed from7 to 4.7 and down to 1.4 in the place market.

SOMEBODY KNOWS SOMETHING !!!

I'm BACKING :)
By:
Big Charlie
When: 13 Jan 10 17:18
Travelled well but the whip was out 2 furlongs out. :(

One to watch if and when the stable starts firing.
By:
curious-cat
When: 13 Jan 10 19:21
their gambles are not v successful Big C.

local betting shop manager's daughter used to work in his stable ............ we used to hear when they were off ........... in the days of S.Kelly going to ride for him.

The daughter had a few rides ( around 2000 ) but went to work in the USA.
By:
Big Charlie
When: 13 Jan 10 21:08
Something must be wrong in the yard to get only two winners in 6 months.
By:
curious-cat
When: 13 Jan 10 22:59
Hugh Taylor

EJEED looks sure to go well in the opener (4.15). He has been up against it in his last three outings, running as well as could have been expected in Listed race three outings ago, then chasing home three well treated horses two outings ago (all three won next time), before again running creditably against more lightly-raced or higher-rated three-year-olds in maiden company. The fly in the ointment here could be Kings Miracle, who travelled well for a long way despite pulling hard in that same maiden and makes his handicap debut here for respected connections, and a market move would be worth noting, but either way Ejeed should go close in a weak race.

TOTALLY FOCUSSED has very much caught the eye on his two starts since returning from a long break, and with his draw in stall one not necessarily the end of the world, he can confirm that promise in the 1m handicap at Kempton tonight (7.15). He shaped really well on his return over 7f when third to one of this winters most progressive horses in Tiddliwinks (twice a winner since, including off a 13lb higher mark last time), then was repeatedly stopped in his run when travelling strongly over 1m. His wins-to-runs ratio is poor, but thats probably more due to bad luck than anything, and he gives the impression hes as good as ever, and well treated, right now. His draw in stall one is less of a problem over 1m than shorter, and the last ten horses to run in handicaps from stall one over 1m have produced two wins and three places (two of which were beaten half a length or less)
By:
Big Charlie
When: 13 Jan 10 23:50
Lot of use now.
By:
curious-cat
When: 13 Jan 10 23:50
:)
By:
curious-cat
When: 13 Jan 10 23:51
£645-60
By:
pumphol.
When: 14 Jan 10 07:45
Is Hugh Taylor available around 12 but during the day please :D
By:
Big Charlie
When: 14 Jan 10 10:51
TIMEFORM - A BRIEF REVIEW ON AW TRACKS

With all-weather racing taking centre stage for once, there's no better time to examine what it's all about, from courses to horses and riders. Therefore, here is Timeform's brief guide to the all-weather, designed to break a few myths and point you in the right direction.

It's all too easy to make generalisations about all-weather racing, but each of the four tracks are different, having their own nuances, and the old adage 'horses for courses' applies, more so than on turf. Let's start with the obvious: the surface. Three of the four are polytrack, which favours speed over stamina, but the fibresand at Southwell is deep and testing, something of a specialist surface, and course form there counts for double. As a rule it pays to race prominently as the taxing nature of fibresand, coupled with the kickback, means it can be difficult to come from off the pace.

Lingfield, on the other hand, is the sharpest of the all-weather tracks, and even in 5f races they have two bends to negotiate, but it's not the front-runners haven one might expect, and patiently-ridden horses can and often do have the greater momentum going into the home straight.

Though less severe than Lingfield, Wolverhampton is itself a tight track, ideal for speedy, handy types as opposed to those who take time to find full stride, and a low draw is also an advantage, particularly in sprints.

Kempton gives more of a chance to the strong-gallopers, as the turns are easier and the straights longer, and the complexion of races there often change in the last furlong. Unlike the other all-weather courses, Kempton is right handed, and the higher the draw the better.

Of all the artificial tracks, Lingfield is probably the biggest test for a rider, and none do it better than Jim Crowley. The bulk of his success this winter has come at Kempton, but Crowley excels round Lingfield, where his awareness and judgement of when and where to act have won him several races on relative outsiders. Up-and-coming Stephen Craine, who incidentally followed Crowley by switching codes from jumps to Flat, is another who has caught the eye with his management of Lingfield, but George Baker, or the 'Head Waiter' as he's known due to his last-gasp delivery, is still the track expert, as he's proved time and again this all-weather season.

Craine and Baker are similar in style - a style which might be described as 'ballsy' - and that's tailor-made for Lingfield, whereas Southwell calls for something different, rewarding strength and persistence, suiting the all-action approach of Chris Catlin and Neil Callan and the like, though Callan is class whatever the course.

Bar Joe Fanning, there are few better judges of pace than Callan, and therefore it's no surprise that both do well at Kempton where the galloping track means there's more variation on the way races are run, compared to say Wolverhampton and Southwell where it's generally frenetic from the off with a clamour to get a favourable pitch.

So what makes an all-weather horse? The truth is, there's no predicting which ones will or won't take to the surface, and very few are significantly better or worse than they are on turf anyway, at least on polytrack. As already outlined, Southwell is something of a black sheep of the all-weather family in that fibresand is so different to polytrack, and its individuality creates some angles that the prepared punter can hone in on. It's all about the surface and the clues as to which horses will take to it. Look out for those who've shown their form under testing conditions on turf, as they are a shoo-in when it comes to the sapping fibresand, and, linked in, because of the strain, the bigger and stronger the horse the better. Then there are trainers to follow, namely David Barron and Hugh Morrison, whose profitable results prove the benefit of having a fibresand-style gallop at home. A pedigree can also provide a pointer, and, along with most American-breds, keep an eye out for the progeny of Captain Rio and Invincible Spirit, two sires with a notable fibresand record.

Sweeping and fair in character, Kempton doesn't favour one type of horse over another, but Wolverhampton and Lingfield are the playing ground of the speed merchants, those active sorts with gears, and whatever is last off the bridle usually wins out. Put it this way: you shouldn't be half as worried about a horse stepping up in trip at Lingfield as you would at almost any other course (all-weather or turf) in the country.

:)
By:
Seasider.
When: 14 Jan 10 10:58
Can you summarise in one line please Big C. ? :)
By:
Big Charlie
When: 14 Jan 10 11:43
12-50 Southwell

2 non-runners make this a 6 horse affair. Grudge will no doubt bid to make all and on this track he may get away with it.

But BF pay 3 places, and I fancy Guto, who has bags of experience here and is on a handy nark, for the frame at around 3.1

;)
By:
Big Charlie
When: 14 Jan 10 11:46
Drifting :(
By:
Big Charlie
When: 14 Jan 10 12:08
Never saw the race, what happened ?
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