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By:
curious-cat
When: 17 Dec 09 08:03
Morning :)

the horse I referred to in the previous post is Etruscan 1.30 S .......... I managed some 3.85 at 1.12 last night.
It's a bit lower now.

No reason why it shouldn't run as well as the trainer's other horses have recently 5 winners from 9 last 14 days (inc 1 aw winner)

I'm picking these trainers up when they've got 2 from 4 and at that stage they appear to be unnoticed and the next runners can win at biggish prices ... as is the case with this trainer.

It's often quite a short period of success and if the trainers have a small string they are unlikely to have that many potential winners ...... hopefully C.Gordon is of a mind to strike when 'the iron is hot'.

In the 1.30 Pat Eddery [ 2/2/6] and Jane Chappell Hyam { 2/2/9] appear to be in good form and P.Midgely's last runner won [1/1/5].
By:
squares
When: 17 Dec 09 08:57
Morning, looks like it was an expensive time away :(

wd lads.

pumphol, assume I am too late for latest pics.
By:
panglima
When: 17 Dec 09 10:48
Yes Thomas all done thanks

Saint Par 33/1 with SJ

1.50 Ex is a hard race to weigh up , cut it down to 5 horses no best left alone !
By:
curious-cat
When: 17 Dec 09 11:43
v wise pumps
By:
curious-cat
When: 17 Dec 09 12:02
Hugh Taylor ( I've been forgetting to look him up since missing Tuesday )

Thursday 17th December

CAPTAIN SMOOTHY (Exeter 12.50) was selected in this column for his intended engagement at Folkestone on Tuesday, but that meeting fell victim to the frost. It makes sense to stick with him in todays race, but we need to be aware that he is going to be ridden by a very inexperienced amateur rider today, so punters need to factor that into the equation before deciding to back the horse.

The case for Captain Smoothy is simple
By:
curious-cat
When: 17 Dec 09 12:32
Etruscan fav on the bf
By:
curious-cat
When: 17 Dec 09 12:36
luckily it wasn't an ew price as it finished 4th

can't blame the jockey who rode it very enthusiastically throughout :)
By:
panglima
When: 17 Dec 09 12:45
I have to admit the long absence put me off the Capt
By:
squares
When: 17 Dec 09 13:01
great channel for anyone who likes 80's music = Sky 0200 Absolute 80s

:)
By:
Big Charlie
When: 17 Dec 09 16:35
Look at the charts on the 5-30

somebody got up to 900 for the win matched this morning

and also 50 for a place

2nd at 25/1

Nice work if you can get it
By:
Big Charlie
When: 17 Dec 09 16:36
^^^ got as low as 10/3 to win it
By:
curious-cat
When: 18 Dec 09 09:11
5 inches here close to the north downs.

Morning :)
By:
Capt__F
When: 18 Dec 09 10:03
720 wolvers
Playboy Blues bout 4s
By:
Big Charlie
When: 18 Dec 09 17:27
TIMEFORM ON THE 8-50 with ***** ratings

Bestowed *****
Benefited from switch to this yard recently, running well here last 3 starts. Should make another bold bid for in-form David Evans team.

NR Castle Myth ****
Much improved when beating a subsequent winner over 8.6f here last month. Fair third last time and one of the likelier types in this field.

NR Dragon Slayer ****
Won twice on turf this year and equally effective on this surface. Can take a strong hold but reliable enough and should give another good account.

Pachakutek ***
Promise on debut in Newmarket maiden at 2 yrs. Failed to build on that subsequently, and looks on a stiff mark on handicap debut. Market useful after a break.

Rambling Dancer ***
Ready winner of Dundalk handicap last month but 7 lb higher mark in competitive race could be enough to find him out.

NR Sally Bawn ***
Won over 10.7f at Dundalk in October. Fifth over C&D for new yard last month but no obvious excuses when only fourth on Thursday

West Kirk ***
Promising fifth in AW maiden on debut, and bettered that after nearly 9 months off in 8f claimer at Yarmouth in October. Below par last time but could be on a good mark on handicap debut.

Corrib **
Can usually be relied upon to run her race and goes on this surface. Fair effort last time but 6 lb out of the handicap here and much more required.

Eastern Gift **
Four placed efforts to his name this year and dropped a long way in the weights now. Not so good on AW as turf though and others stronger.

Flighty Fellow **
Fair handicapper in his prime for Tim Easterby, but beaten here in a seller last time and likely to struggle once again.

NR Make Amends **
Prominent racer who often gives her running, winning over 10f at Folkestone in July. Back to that mark now but well held the last twice.
========================================

Top rated horse has 5 stars, the two on 4 stars don't run, but the second best one on 3 stars is the favourite, was 6/1 last night.

GOTTA BE LAYED NOW :)
By:
curious-cat
When: 18 Dec 09 18:28
Eastern Gift ?
By:
everythings gone green
When: 18 Dec 09 18:30
Well done Capt F
By:
curious-cat
When: 18 Dec 09 18:45
n1 capt f :)
By:
Big Charlie
When: 19 Dec 09 09:19
Nice one Capt F.

I forgot all about it though :(
By:
Big Charlie
When: 19 Dec 09 09:24
curious-cat 18 Dec 19:28
Eastern Gift ?


Yes, the front two flip-flopped, THEY KNEW !!

Eastern Gift got as low as 1.1 before Bestowed, the new favourite, and 5 star rated, got up on the line, went out to 17 in running.
By:
squares
When: 19 Dec 09 09:33
. :( this thread is really hard to find X-(
By:
Big Charlie
When: 19 Dec 09 09:34
Pumpys fault

he should have put it in BLOCK CAPITALS
By:
everythings gone green
When: 19 Dec 09 09:37
And a longer title over 2 lines.
By:
curious-cat
When: 19 Dec 09 09:39
wherefore would have been used by a proper actor imo :D
By:
curious-cat
When: 19 Dec 09 09:40
Hope the paranoia is not too bad pumphol.
By:
Big Charlie
When: 19 Dec 09 11:14
12-20

Clear Ice has been sent down south by Nicholls, but all his wins and places have been at Southwell on fibresand. He may like polytrack, and he may not. Worth chancing as a place lay at under evens imo.

Zubova can't be backed with a record like that.

Can't see why Miss Lesley is a shorter price than Tamarind Hill.
By:
Big Charlie
When: 19 Dec 09 12:13
Layed Zubova :)

Layed Clear Ice at 1.97, but didn't keep it :( traded out for a free bet when it drifted to 2.34. but the beastie finished last. :(

Left Miss Lesley alone - thank feck :^0
By:
Big Charlie
When: 19 Dec 09 12:24
12-25

Fromsong is getting on a bit now but has slipped down the handicap and is surely going to have a decent go at making every post a winning one.

9.6 to win

2.94 to place

Trade out possible ?
By:
Big Charlie
When: 19 Dec 09 12:38
9.6 to 7 and 2.94 to 3.05, then down to 2.68 before the off

THEY KNEW

Never led though, late challenge, got home by a neck. :)
By:
Big Charlie
When: 19 Dec 09 14:21
Where do these betfair layers get their race reading skills, Stevie Wonders gift shop ????

I was downstairs having lunch and watching Lingfield.

As they turned into the straight the only horse still on the bridle was the winner, Jaroslaw.

I came up here to see that it went to 50 in running.

Unbelievable, these people must be blind.
By:
Big Charlie
When: 19 Dec 09 15:57
The 5-00 with Timeform comments

Yanza (5 stars)
Runner-up twice over this C&D in October. Injury to jockey almost certainly contributed to below-par effort last time and one for shortlist even though high draw not ideal for front runner.

Radiator Rooney (4 stars) non runner
A while since he last won but placed efforts on last 3 starts show he's back in good heart and has to come into consideration here.

Bentley (3 stars)
In doldrums most of the year but bounced back to form to take C&D seller earlier in month. Faces stiffer competition back in handicap but chance if in same mood again.

Charlie Delta (3 stars)
Won off 4 lb lower over this trip at Kempton in October. Creditable efforts in face of stiffish task in sellers last 2 starts and more realistic chance back in handicap.

Colombard (3 stars)
Been conistent in similar events without winning and good chance he'll find the odd one too good again.


Commander Wish (3 stars) Non-runner
Potentially very well treated now (even from 3 lb out of weights here) and should be suited by this return to 6f. Dangerous to rule out.

Irish Music (3 stars)
Looked unlucky when runner-up in 5f handicap at Kempton on penultimate start but beaten at short odds in 6f maiden there next time (found little).

Almaty Express (2 stars)
Has won 11 times over 5f here but has nowhere near best since latest win in April. Tries longer trip now.

First Order (2 stars)
Below his best since the summer. Falling in the weights but can't be fancied on recent efforts.


Music Box Express (2 stars)
Speedy front runner at best but well held on return from 5-month break recently and needs to come on a lot in short space of time. High draw no help either.

El Potro (1 star)
Lightly raced this year, flattered on reappearance and shown nothing in 4 outings since.

Misterisland (1 star)
Clearly had his problems and no encouragement in 3 outings since returning from long absence.

=======================================
Conclusion of how some of these will go (ran out of time)

Bentley, off 60 today, has never won off higher than 56, but has been placed on 62 a few times here, and once off 67, but that was 2 years ago.

Irish Music, turned over at odds of 4/9 in a maiden in November at Kempton. Franny Norton is his 8th different jockey in 11 races. Not a good sign imo.

Misterisland shortest price it ever started was 11/1 on its raceocourse debut. Has about as much chance of winning this as I have of getting an MBE.

El Potro Has won off a much higher mark 4 times, but not since 2007. On 45 today, and when it has been on this low mark before, it has always got placed, 2nd seven times and 3rd once. Could be a nice place bet.

Radiator Rooney and Commander wish are non-runners.

So, the winner must come from the other 6 :) (famous last words)

I'm going to plump for a lay of Bentley, and a place back of Charlie Delta (needs a stronger jockey than Culhane though)
By:
Big Charlie
When: 19 Dec 09 16:10
Bentleys jockey hard at work 3 furlongs out :)

Missed the boat on Charlie Delta it was as high as 2.82 for a place last night.

(3 of the 'other 6' were 1st 2nd and 3rd, so miracles do happen)

A pleasing day :)

Time for a cigar
By:
The Leopard
When: 19 Dec 09 16:15
Has monica turned up...?
By:
curious-cat
When: 19 Dec 09 20:55
wd with Chris Hollins thomas :)
By:
squares
When: 19 Dec 09 21:00
n1 - hope some of you lot were on :D
By:
curious-cat
When: 19 Dec 09 21:17
forgot about it until I was checking my p/loss after my 5th rugby match of the day :D
By:
squares
When: 19 Dec 09 21:19
what price you get CC ?
By:
curious-cat
When: 20 Dec 09 12:08
not as big as you thomas :)

maybe 16

what was your biggest price t2 ?

Morning / afternoon btw :)
By:
curious-cat
When: 21 Dec 09 09:05
Yesteryear yesteryear where art thou yesteryear ?


v near the bottom

Morning :)
By:
Seasider.
When: 21 Dec 09 09:05
Morning c-c and all.
By:
panglima
When: 21 Dec 09 10:10
Morning all
WD Thomas on CH
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