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By:
nestor
When: 18 Jun 09 12:58
Cath, That's close to herecy. NH racing finishes after the Grand National and doesn't start again until November.
By:
nestor
When: 18 Jun 09 12:58
Aspro, you should be OK today at Ascot. ;)
By:
Aspro
When: 18 Jun 09 13:01
When I was a kid, Ascot heated water, not punters
By:
Cath22
When: 26 Jun 09 12:37
The MetO have issued a Heat Health Watch for next week, hot and humid air will be over the UK for most of the week now this is good for us in a way because it will help to kill the germs of swine-flu.
By:
sibaroni
When: 26 Jun 09 12:39
Death rate the same as normal flu. Still, never let the truth ruin a good story.
By:
Cath22
When: 26 Jun 09 12:42
How often does normal flu mutate?
By:
wur
When: 26 Jun 09 12:45
Like the Terminator,"It'll be back". I've been reading about these novel animal/human hybrid flus. By autumn, there will be tens of millions of people who have had this flu and develop immunity to it. In order to reinfect them, it willl have to mutate, and thie successful mutations will be killers. It could be a rerun of 1918.
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 26 Jun 09 12:47
lol, class - 'it will have to'
By:
The Magic Flea
When: 26 Jun 09 12:48
wur, in what way is this different from a normal flu that tends to mutate as well? Why should this one become so lethal?
By:
Cath22
When: 26 Jun 09 12:53
The Magic Flea..I don't mean to be rude, but that is a really silly question :-)
By:
The Magic Flea
When: 26 Jun 09 12:54
why?
By:
wur
When: 26 Jun 09 12:54
I think it's because the other flus are human flus, and they have become well adapted to their host over very long timescales. They change a bit from year to year, but not much. This hybrid flu is novel and hasn't become adapted to humans. It's considered to be 'genetically unstable', unlike human flus.
By:
The Magic Flea
When: 26 Jun 09 12:55
so much easier for it to die out, then mutate into a killer. killer airbourne viruses are easy to contain anyway
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 26 Jun 09 12:57
Fantastic.
A new virology forum.
By:
Cath22
When: 26 Jun 09 12:59
Shame that wasp didn't sting your mouth STUDYFORM..it might of shut you up for a day or so LOL ;-)
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 26 Jun 09 13:00
I'd still manage to type somehow
By:
Cath22
When: 26 Jun 09 13:00
The Magic Flea 26 Jun 13:55


so much easier for it to die out, then mutate into a killer. killer airbourne viruses are easy to contain anyway


I'll make it simple for you, If I had more time I'd draw it for you so you could join the dots..

Human Flu

Mix with

Animal Flu

= Millions of deaths
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 26 Jun 09 13:01
I'll make it simple for you, cath.....
There is very little (if any) reason to suppose there will be millions of deaths.
By:
Cath22
When: 26 Jun 09 13:03
If you was to "Study the form " and look at trends like your name suggests then you will look at the form of Spanish Flu..lol you are one A Class knobjockey, but a fun knobjockey at that :-)
By:
The Magic Flea
When: 26 Jun 09 13:05
thank you for making it simple for me. but what are the probabilities of that happening? Bird flu fizzled out, as will swine flu.
At the moment we have high fever and diarrhea that is killing people that cannot handle high fever.
If it mutated to something that kills off a healthy host, it becomes easy to contain, as the infection would have to be severe and quick
By:
sibaroni
When: 26 Jun 09 13:05
Cath - all flus can mutate. There is no reason to believe swine flu is susceptable to mutation any more than any strain of flu. Boring I know, but thems the facts.
By:
Cath22
When: 26 Jun 09 13:08
If it's verbal diarrhea I blame Studyform.

The probabilty of phase 2 taking hold in Autumn is getting higher by the day.

Add to that the population of the World..hospitals ect.. just won't be able to cope with demand.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 26 Jun 09 13:08
I've said it before, and....
This thread has cath22's main input, in responding to this input one has to remember.

One is banging one's head against a wall.
By:
The Magic Flea
When: 26 Jun 09 13:11
sorry, cath, but you are making no sense. Why the hell should it mutate in the northern hemisphere and not the southern one?
By:
cannyman
When: 26 Jun 09 13:12
It's arrived in Bradford. :-(
By:
cannyman
When: 26 Jun 09 13:15
The first cases of swine flu have been confirmed in Bradford.

Three adults are being given anti-viral medicines and responding well to the treatment.

NHS Bradford and Airedale last night urged people who suspect they have swine flu to stay at home.

The outbreak in Bradford comes as parts of the UK have so many cases of swine flu the virus cannot be contained, the Government revealed yesterday.

So far, 3,597 cases of swine flu have been confirmed in the UK but the true figure is thought to be higher.
By:
Cath22
When: 26 Jun 09 13:17
The Magic Flea 26 Jun 14:11


sorry, cath, but you are making no sense. Why the hell should it mutate in the northern hemisphere and not the southern one?


Erm because our Autumn/Winter happens at a different time to the Southern Hemisphere.
By:
The Magic Flea
When: 26 Jun 09 13:18
so the swine flu has decided to mutate in the northern hemisphere, not the southern. kin hell i cann see why it is so dangerous. A virus with an agenda
By:
Cath22
When: 26 Jun 09 13:19
The Magic Flea

Are you dumb? who said it can only mutate in the Northern Hemisphere?
By:
wur
When: 26 Jun 09 13:21
From today's Bloomberg:

[b]Scientists have used laboratory tests to confirm 27,715 cases of swine flu in the U.S., and as many as 1 million people may have been sick and not had testing, the CDC said. Widespread flu is unusual in the U.S. at this time of the year.

By:
The Magic Flea
When: 26 Jun 09 13:21
you are quoting autumn, while there are still 3 months of winter left in the southern hemisphere
By:
Cath22
When: 26 Jun 09 13:25
Flea your jumping about all over the place you pesky little devil you....

Many in the Southern Hempisphere don't get the kind of harsh winters that the North do.

You starting to get it now?
By:
The Magic Flea
When: 26 Jun 09 13:26
Seasonal epidemics

Influenza epidemics occur yearly during autumn and winter in temperate regions. Illnesses result in hospitalizations and deaths mainly among high-risk groups (the very young, elderly or chronically ill). Worldwide, these annual epidemics result in about three to five million cases of severe illness, and about 250 000 to 500 000 deaths. Most deaths associated with influenza in industrialized countries occur among people age 65 or older. In some tropical countries, influenza viruses circulate throughout the year with one or two peaks during rainy seasons.


they have to deal with a serious flu every year.
By:
The Magic Flea
When: 26 Jun 09 13:27
yes, so if there are more peole to infect, there is a lower probability the virus would need to mutate
By:
Cath22
When: 26 Jun 09 13:37
So what you telling us?
By:
Cath22
When: 26 Jun 09 13:50
My boomerang won't come back, my boomerang won't come back.....
By:
Cath22
When: 26 Jun 09 13:56
Oh and all the doubters...

Read what the Chief Medical Officer ( Sir Liam Donaldson) warned yesterday.
By:
Cath22
When: 26 Jun 09 14:01
* taps fingers I'm waiting *
By:
Cath22
When: 28 Jun 09 22:02
Anyone with half a brain want to talk about this?

It seem those above went away with there tail between there legs.
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 28 Jun 09 22:04
Whoooo! Go Swine Flu!
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