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Yoda?
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sparkmaster. 30 Apr 11:27
how many deaths in Mexico this last week? Go back and read the posts, I'm not going to keep answering the same things so please before you open your motuh take time to read the posts. you ain't going to get say 1,000 deaths in a week in Mexico but over time weeks/months it can and most probably grow and grow more and more cases = more and more deaths. Hard to accept but it's the truth. |
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Guesser ^^ same as everyone else
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Is the answer there Cath? I'm asking this last week, because it seems to me that there are still very few confirmed deaths, far less today in fact, than were originally suggested. The latest figures I've seen say 8 confirmed plus 160 possibles. That was yesterday though. Still, excellent news IMO.
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Epidemiologist-trucker.
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sparkmaster. 30 Apr 11:38
Is the answer there Cath? I'm asking this last week, because it seems to me that there are still very few confirmed deaths, far less today in fact, than were originally suggested. The latest figures I've seen say 8 confirmed plus 160 possibles. That was yesterday though. Still, excellent news IMO. Yes Excellent news sparkmaster ofcourse, but now the swine-flu is worldwide it will spread and spread. Nobody can give exact death tolls but what we can look at is histroy. Spanish Flu was very simular to what this swine-flu is showing. We do have better treatment in this day and age but also with travel ect it could spread to more people that it did with Spanish Flu in this country. |
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Changing the subject...
Good luck in the play-offs Cath :) |
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I've had a jolly good old belly-laugh reading today's instalment on this thread.
Yoda :^0 Aspro's "The maost sane thing you've said" :^0 And catch22 manning the phones at (on a) mission control :^0 :^0 Not a high rate of exponential growth is it? |
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Aspro 30 Apr 11:47
Changing the subject... Good luck in the play-offs Cath What team do you support? It's a shame Gillingham can't get automatic pormotion but we will settle for the play-offs |
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COYS!!!
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Cath, give this guy a call and let him know it's similar to the 1918 flu. And the other experts too. They're all way behind you.
But we can't at the moment answer the question is it comparable to 1918 Spanish flu which killed a lot of people - or is it much more like Hong Kong flu. Neil Ferguson, WHO |
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Play-offs is better than nothing... Season far from over!
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sparkmaster
Swine Flu is the same Type A variety as that of Spanish Flu. |
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Spanish Flu, the disease that was pandemic from September 1918 until June 1920. That flu strain killed more than twice as many people than died in World War I. In the United States Spanish flu first emerged at Camp Syracuse, NY, where recruits were living in close quarters in tents. The first recruits were treated casually at aid stations until some sicker men were sent to hospitals in the city of Syracuse, and the epidemic rose astronomically and proceeded to spread. It is estimated that 28% of the US population caught the Spanish flu and 500,000 to 650,000 people died of it. The epidemic spread around the globe extending into the Arctic and across the Pacific islands. 14% of the population of Fiji died of the disease. All told Spanish flu killed about 5% of the total population of the world between 1918 and 1920
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Like I say, give them a call Cath, they don't seem to think that's significant. Set them straight.
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chit chatters all safe they never leave the house
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41 cleared cases
27 cases under investigation Stll 5 confirmed 1 person re-tested and have not been to Mexico, but have been in close contact with someone that has. |
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Anticepating human-human spread in this country but so far we have given ourselves a little time by iscolating those infected.
If we can keep control of that human-human untill the summer months this swine-flu may go away and give us time to come up with a vaccine before it's probably return in Auumnt/Winter. |
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That it will spread is a given. Whether it is a significant killer is not known. Also, we have anti-viral drugs unlike 1918. There's plenty to worry about, but its all a little early to start hording dried foods in a bunker. Thousands of people die of flu every year in Britain; seems not to trouble us too much.
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I read that swine-flu does not appear to be instigating cytokine storms, which the 1918 flu did. It is this reaction that caused many of 1918 deaths meaning (if true) that this bug is a lot safer than the 1918 strain from initial reports. Wise to be aware but no need to panic.
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Anyone know if there has been any confirmed cases of human to human spread in the U.S Seems strange that we're not hearing about this.
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I've come to the conclusion that the Spurs' lasagne was more of a threat
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wur 30 Apr 12:19
Anyone know if there has been any confirmed cases of human to human spread in the U.S Seems strange that we're not hearing about this. Hi wur. Yes there has been thats why the level was raised to 5. |
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I thought they raised it to 5 because a person in Spain who'd never been to Mexico caught it.
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No Wur
WHO said it was going to be raised to 5 anyway, but you a re right it happend in Spain too so would of gone to 5 anyway. |
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In Spain only one case thats passed human-human so far. I suspect loads of people are being tested like here at present.
In US ithere are a fair few cases human-human being reported. |
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In all honesty, and speaking sensibly now, I have no doubt you have reason to feel very concerned about the "inevitable" pandemic... we all should too. The problem here, which you still can't grasp, is that if it is going to be serious then it is already too late. How hard is that to comprehend?
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Aspro, are you allowed to use Swine Flu as part of your AS etc presentations? Gotta be a great sales aid?
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Superb thinking Warhol! Feck it, if the government can manipulate this then why not me!?
You could be in for a bonus here :) |
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the two in Scotland are being released from hospital - must be a nasty ol' bug to keep em in for all of 48 hours.
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The comments regarding the thus-far extremely slight impact of the outbreak kind of miss the point. Yes, thousands of people die each year from flu anyway. However, it is when new strains of flu develop that can lead to a pandemic. Whether the latest flu threat is Swine Flu, 'Spanish flu', 'Asian flu' or whatever, it's a new strain that nobody will have built a natural defence against. And whilst the cases in the UK have led to mild symptoms, we know that in other countries, primarily Mexico, it has killed people. The 1918/19 pandemic (according to John P's link) caused 250,000 deaths in the UK alone.
I'd rather we were prepared and aware, rather than left to collectively panic *if* a pandemic hits. I want my government to be prepared. |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/19_10_05_bird_flu.pdf
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Aspro, if I listen to Cath, I won't be around long enough to collect it :)
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Cath rest assured your government is prepared, in fact, even WHO are saying that the UK is probably one of only a few countries that is properly prepared so what's the problem now?
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Incase you didn't read this on the other thread, cath.
YOU go and look it up. YOU are the one who is thick. (Not many people would accuse me of being that). You're writing crap. If you get a disease (virus), you either have antibodies against it or you don't!!! Old people get less cold than the young, because they have already been exposed to more cold viruses over the years, and so have caught them before. If you get a new FLU virus, you'll either be ill or not, depending on whether you've had it before or not. The auto-immune system does NOT discriminate between swine flu and a varient of a previously heard of flu, you either catch it or you don't. This FEAR of yours is borne of abject ignorance. Like most idiots you're frightened of what you don't understand and you have spent most of the last 3 days in a frenzy looking at what fuels your misguided, ignorant belief, without ONCE acknowledging that your MASSIVE over-reaction is just that; over-reaction. You are only listening to, or taking notice of, the words, articles, and media which tells you this thing is a MAJOR disaster. YOU WILL NOT TAKE ON BOARD ANY OTHER POSSIBILITY. The sad thing is, that when it's bl;own over, and very little comes of it, you will still feel justified in your ignorance fuelled hysteria. Seriously cath, you really need to get a grip. |
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Indeed Warhol :)
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Studyform
Your wrong. |
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BODYFORM
Completely missing the piitn again. If he could read rather than rant he might get somewhere. His showing definate signs of wetting himself. |
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*point*
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So then STUDY did you read my post above? Did you go and work it our for yourself? Or do you want to keeping banging on and on ?
Here it is incase you missed it. I await your reply. Cath22 30 Apr 13:52 The comments regarding the thus-far extremely slight impact of the outbreak kind of miss the point. Yes, thousands of people die each year from flu anyway. However, it is when new strains of flu develop that can lead to a pandemic. Whether the latest flu threat is Swine Flu, 'Spanish flu', 'Asian flu' or whatever, it's a new strain that nobody will have built a natural defence against. And whilst the cases in the UK have led to mild symptoms, we know that in other countries, primarily Mexico, it has killed people. The 1918/19 pandemic (according to John P's link) caused 250,000 deaths in the UK alone. I'd rather we were prepared and aware, rather than left to collectively panic *if* a pandemic hits. I want my government to be prepared. |