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Britain is sending foreign aid to Hait yet it allows pensioners

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By:
jamesbeckton.
When: 15 Jan 10 12:44
Vietnamese (Pol Pot

From when was Pol Pot Vietnamese lol?
By:
The Magic Flea
When: 15 Jan 10 12:45
Have they got WMD's that they can activate in 45 minutes?
By:
zilzal1
When: 15 Jan 10 12:48
James, he may have gone on a day trip to Danang (thus qualifying under the "Jackie Charlton" criteria
By:
TiptheOdds
When: 15 Jan 10 14:49
Why don´t people ask the real question which is: why is it that pensioners can freeze to death while underperforming bankers can get paid multi-million pound bonuses out of public money given to the banks, supposedly to recue them from crashing????

THAT is the real scandal, not giving aid to people dying in a third world country.

Get your feckin priorities right!
By:
TiptheOdds
When: 15 Jan 10 14:50
sorry boxingthefox, just seen your post.
By:
baracouda30
When: 15 Jan 10 14:52
Pol Pot was of course Cambodian.

My apologies.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 15 Jan 10 14:55
TiptheOdds, no probs mate you are spot on.
By:
terry mccann
When: 15 Jan 10 14:57
we are stint,where do they find the money from?
By:
evski
When: 15 Jan 10 15:04
What I want to know is why the government spends money on anything other than old people, clildren and cancer sufferers. Everyone else can sacrifice to make their live just a little better it would be worth it.
we need to get out priorities right, cos back when I were a lad it was all fields round here, and you could leave your door unlocked at night.


I hope nobody think that I'm spouting imotive drivel
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 15 Jan 10 15:05
I cannot understand your stance here, slicer.
Is there only one load of money, with a choice as to where it goes?

instead of diverting socially needed money (healthcare, pensions etc) and sending this to where it is DESPERATELY needed, why not divert other (war fund, bankers, MP's, Judges, wealth of the greedy) and send that?

While you're sorting the wrongs of the world!
By:
boxingthefox
When: 15 Jan 10 15:09
STUDYFORM, quite right, the question is badly framed, knowing Slicer I think it was deliberate and he was being provocative, but the unfolding horror left him having to defend himself.

I could of course be way off beam, just like my betting,lol.
By:
TiptheOdds
When: 15 Jan 10 15:24
Judging by the number of these kind of posts on here it shows how successful the media/Govt campaign of brainwashing the masses over decades has been.

Instead of people in the UK/US questioning how it is that in a wealthy country the rich are allowed to get away with so much money, while the poor and vulnerable are denied even the basics needed to live, people ask dumb questions scapegoating other poor and vulnerable people, whether they are third world countries, immigrants, unemployed or whoever.

Time people in the west woke up...
By:
baracouda30
When: 15 Jan 10 15:27
Quite right.

Anyone starting a thread querying why Murdoch and his corporations avoid so much tax is labelled a leftie loon by the same people who want all foreign aid stopped, because WE can't afford it.

Why can't we afford it?
By:
boxingthefox
When: 15 Jan 10 15:30
TiptheOdds, I really believe that we must be near the top of the "worst served by the media", countries in Europe.

Sorry about the grammar.
By:
The Magic Flea
When: 15 Jan 10 15:33
I had the misfortune of leafing through the Startoday as someone left it on the tube. God help us if people genuinely buy that trash.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 15 Jan 10 15:33
baracouda30, Philip (I live in Monaco) Green is someone I would like to SITF. Just hate him and ilk.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 15 Jan 10 15:35
him and ilk.** him and his ilk.
By:
zilzal1
When: 15 Jan 10 15:41
Tip, whilst i agree with your view on third world poverty, i think that the definition in the vast majority of cases in this country bears no resemblance to the word. Anyway most of the family silver has been sold off here and as a result, future generations may not have it so easy.
By:
TiptheOdds
When: 15 Jan 10 16:00
sorry Zil, I´m not sure what you´re saying...

I wasn´t likening in any way poverty in the UK/west with the kind of absolute poverty that exists in the third world. Like slicer I agree that the British Government has a primary obligation to look after all the people living in this country, where we disagree is from where the money should be found. I also think that the rich countries of the west - and don´t forget that the UK is still the 6th richest country on the planet - should help the third world, and this happens already through a specific budget and doesn´t come from the welfare provision.
By:
alfie bhoy
When: 15 Jan 10 16:02
I can sympathise with the poor people of Haiti are feeling, the last time i had ten aftershocks i couldn't find my house either.
By:
zilzal1
When: 15 Jan 10 16:07
Sorry Tip, i wasn't disagreeing about world aid, more about the way that poverty is used as a word when talking about this country where imo its very rare. In fact most of the so called poor people i see over here seem to be quite rotund.
By:
Big Charlie
When: 15 Jan 10 16:17
As we seemed to be sorting out other countries corrupt governments before Haiti, when will we find time to get rid of Mugabe ?
By:
TiptheOdds
When: 15 Jan 10 16:17
I agree to an extent zil, but just because average living standards have improved doesn´t mean that there aren´t still many people living in relative poverty, with limited means to keep their flats heated, or buy the food, clothes or other essentials they need.

Its usually not the ones we see every day that need help, its the ones we don´t see. The old and frail, and those too proud to ask for help; the mentally ill; the ones with little education who don´t know their way round the benefits system; or immigrants and refugees with little support. Or for that matter the working poor.
By:
zilzal1
When: 15 Jan 10 16:26
In many cases the working poor would be better off not working, in the long run that cannot be good. But successive governments have changed the definition of unemployed so often that its probably only people between the ages of 35-30 who are now counted as such!!!

i actually wouldnt want to be young now
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