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By:
macarony
When: 10 Jan 10 20:07
Ghostdog 10 Jan 19:28


Greenford=death of the soul

A work mate of mine in his 60s moved out of there two years ago, the storys he tells about the place bl00dy awful and quite sad.
By:
larrence
When: 10 Jan 10 20:10
Catford Toteboard 10 Jan 18:53


Larrence; was a murder (shooting) in Thornton Heath on New Years Eve. Bloke they nicked for it lives around here, but its not rough around here

even during the day in thornton heath the shop windows are boarded up, drove through their last year going to my nan's funeral (dreadful place!!).
By:
Stan2
When: 10 Jan 10 20:19
I'm from south of the river ( Stockwell originally ), but back in the day , Canning Town used to have more than its fair share of real headcases - have lived up north too and experienced nothing that came close to E16. Not a clue what CT is like today ,though.
By:
Big Charlie
When: 10 Jan 10 20:32
Stan, it's 67% full of blacks and asians, all with knives and guns. A bunch of cvnts.

Only one 'hard case' left there now, Alan Castille, a mate of Albert Readings.

Both appeared on that Kate Kray ' Hard **s' programme.

They're both in their 70s now, but you'd still be wary of Alan.
By:
Big Charlie
When: 10 Jan 10 20:32
b a s t a r d s
By:
theguesser
When: 10 Jan 10 20:33
Big Charlie - I am not 100% but I remember the name was mostly initials so could be ASTA. They were a rough lot; I remember that. LOL. We had a couple of 'faces' from Barking in our side and it was the only time I saw them apprehensive. Needless to say we led at half time and lost, by a couple if I recall.
By:
WELSHIE1
When: 10 Jan 10 20:40
i think south of the river is worse
but there is some p,ss holes in london
glad i left
By:
a bitofinterest
When: 10 Jan 10 20:43
whitechapels ok
By:
No chatname registerd
When: 10 Jan 10 20:49
clapham commoner 10 Jan 15:04

welling........

Well thats MOST peculiar.

I've lived there for nearly 30 years and have heard about 2 murders, by seeing the signs and a Guy in our street lost his car stereo ( 1990) and thats about it!

When I go out soon I will warm the car up by leaving the engine running and the front door shut. Any thiefs are not to know the car is locked and I've never had a problem doing that.

Try doing that in Clapham..lol
By:
The Leopard
When: 10 Jan 10 20:52
RAC club....

Dress code :

Dress Regulations at Pall Mall
The pride which members feel for their Pall Mall clubhouse is reflected in the appropriateness of dress within the building. In general men wear tailored business suit, jacket and trousers together with a collared shirt and tie (no cravats) throughout the clubhouse. Ladies dress with appropriate formality. All respect the spirit of these rules.

Smart casual dress may be worn:
at any time in the Long Bar, Billiards room and on the Club Room terrace or when going between a bedroom and the clubhouse entrance or traversing the Club Room to or from the Long Bar or Club Room terrace
at weekends (6pm Friday to midnight Sunday) throughout the clubhouse except for the Great Gallery, and the Minstrels Gallery
every day in the Brooklands restaurant between 6 and 11am

Sportswear is worn by members and guests only in the sports area and when going directly to or from the clubhouse entrance and the sports area. Members and guests deposit all outer street garments, briefcases, sports holdalls and equipment not for immediate use, packages and other items in the cloakroom on the lower ground floor.

The dress code for sporting activities is displayed in all changing rooms and in the Frigidarium.

The dress regulations do not apply to any person wearing their national dress or the uniform or costume appropriate to their office or vocation.

Definitions: Smart casual Men: No jacket or tie is required. Tailored long or short sleeved open-neck shirts and tailored trousers including chinos. Long or short-sleeved v-neck or crew neck pullovers are acceptable provided they are worn over a collared shirt. Roll-neck and turtleneck sweaters are also acceptable. Shirts must be tucked in at all times. Women: are again asked to dress with commensurate formality. Denim is only acceptable when moving directly between the clubhouse entrance and the sports area. Sportswear shorts, T-shirts, sweat shirts, polo shirts, short-sleeved shirts, plain rugby shirts (without large logos or inscriptions), tracksuits and leggings.
By:
WELSHIE1
When: 10 Jan 10 20:52
a bitofinterest 10 Jan 21:43
whitechapels ok

pmsl
By:
No chatname registerd
When: 10 Jan 10 20:54
I thought he said that Whitechapel was o.k. lol

Think he meant Whitehall...
By:
a bitofinterest
When: 10 Jan 10 20:55
just take an air freshener with you..
By:
WELSHIE1
When: 10 Jan 10 20:58
ha ha
By:
No chatname registerd
When: 10 Jan 10 21:00
Thornton Heath is a PERFECT EXAMPLE of what has happened to London!

In 1967 my friends Parents moved to "Suburban" Thornton Heath as the Black Guys who moved to Kennington/Stockwell made it a dangerous place to live, which it never was before.

Fast forward 20 years and all the Guys who moved to TH have moved out, further, to Kent/Surrey/Sussex as Thornton Heath became like "Little Jamaica" and by a miraculous co=incidence the crime rate, on the streets, soared.

I can think of 50 "Thornton Heaths" and I LOVE to shake the naive heads of some younger people who just CAN NOT or DO NOT want to realise the impact that these Guys "in numbers" have on any place in any Inner City....
By:
No chatname registerd
When: 10 Jan 10 21:03
Thats "WOULD LOVE" lol....its the most frustrating point about getting older.

I GUARANTEE that all Londoners over 40 will tell you EXACTLY the same and yet these young guys refuse to believe it.

Of course, its a certainty, that after another 30 years they WILL realise it ( "it" being a large number of Black Guys WILL send the CRime rate on the streets rocketing.

Then THEY will tell the new younger Generation who have not experienced it yet and at that point refuse to believe it! :)
By:
spyker
When: 10 Jan 10 21:10
Cupid said to him 'I'll drop you off at Brixton Station at midnight. You'll be carrying a briefcase, a mobile phone and wearing a bit of visible jewellery. All you have to do is walk to Stockwell Station. If you get there without being mugged, I'll give you a monkey ' (£500)

Anybody want to repeat this bet? I'd do it like a shot - done it many times and walked (and lived) in lots of the places mentioned and never been mugged in London - also loved in St pauls in Bristol for 3 years without a hint of trouble. been mugged in leafy Newbury (it's not in lnodon!) and Richmond though. A mate liived in Clapham North/Streatham for 5 year sand was mugged once though and manged to get £3k i think for a broken wrist when all the miuggers got was his keys! I think it's partly to do with attitude as if you walk through an area thinking 'I'm scared, I'm gonna get mugged' you look vulnerable and probably will.
By:
den perry
When: 10 Jan 10 21:11
Bangers, ever drink in the White Swan?

am probablt gonna move to London in the nxt year and looks like its gonna be greenwich

can anybody tell me where bloody Belham is though?
By:
spyker
When: 10 Jan 10 21:17
You mean Balham? just s of clapham.
By:
The Leopard
When: 10 Jan 10 21:19
Next to Streatham... :0
By:
Big Charlie
When: 10 Jan 10 23:14
theguesser 10 Jan 21:33
Big Charlie - I am not 100% but I remember the name was mostly initials so could be ASTA. They were a rough lot; I remember that. LOL. We had a couple of 'faces' from Barking in our side and it was the only time I saw them apprehensive. Needless to say we led at half time and lost, by a couple if I recall.


ASTA is Andrew Street Tenants Association. You can tell how old the club is by the fact that Andrew Street doesn't exist any more as it got bombed in the war. It was run by the Leahy brothers the last time I was in there, which was about 10 years ago.

My darts team had a clean sweep of the trophies in 1996, all bar one. We won the singles championship, pairs champioship, fours championship, knockout cup (8 a side) captains cup, highest check out (170 - in the singles champioship semi-final by my captain, he beat a player who I had layed for £500 to £100 to win the final, and he had 32 left when my man went to the oche) and the most 180s scored by a team in a season. The only trophy we didn't win was the secretaries cup. The ASTA secretary came from 3-0 down to beat our secretary 5-4.

I was our secretary :(
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 10 Jan 10 23:21
Greenwich seemed nice to me .. my mates sister ran a pub there
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 10 Jan 10 23:21
even the wide boys are friendly
By:
lordnoise
When: 10 Jan 10 23:28
Brixtons now for cissys. Aylesbury Estate in Peckham ? - dont go there.
By:
Jonnnytruant.
When: 11 Jan 10 00:46
spyker 10 Jan 22:10
- also loved in St pauls in Bristol for 3 years without a hint of trouble.


too much information :) !!

Ironically the places mentioned right at the start of this thread as the nice friendly places are the ones that make me think twice. Islingtons a minefield, they'd gut you as soon as look at you round there!
By:
casemoney
When: 11 Jan 10 01:07
Ive lived in Tooting Asian shop community very Little aggro Tooting is alright ,Morden Fook all ever happens very quite these days ,few kids
hang about on high street but not doing much harm ....


Harlesden/Willesden not for me, Stonebridge Park :^0

other parts of harrow road as rough as ** ,kensal rise rough ,
parts of paddington rough ,latymer road ladbroke grove has some right dodgy parts ..some of the estates there were nearly no go areas
a few years back CCTV and a concierge in each block has made a big difference ..
By:
REPORTED^
When: 11 Jan 10 06:29
Alex69 10 Jan 15:29
London's soft as sh!t compared to the north (NAP). Oh there's a war on, quick let's all hide in the tube. Oh there's a millimetre of snow, let's all shut everything down & make a big deal of it on the news. FFS...

did pis5 myself at this considering everyone up north is about 25 stone 50 years old and don a moustache
By:
V4 Vendetta
When: 11 Jan 10 08:18
It used to be a bit unseemly at Harvey Nick's bar trying to get served a while ago.
By:
Java
When: 11 Jan 10 08:19
I've lived in Brixton for 3 years and it's not too bad. Generally you won't get in trouble unless you go looking for it. Mind you - there do seem to be a lot of sirens every night though :(
By:
zilzal1
When: 11 Jan 10 08:42
Stonebridge Park is nearly as bad as Djibouti !!. I managed a shop not a million miles from there a good few years ago on the North Circular road in Neasden just opposite a pub called the Pantiles, The armoury in the back of the shop left by the previous manager was impressive!!

Mind you id managed places in Harelsden, Kilburn, Bethnal Green and Commercial road so i really should have been either dead or Certified

You tend to be foolish when you are young
By:
WELSHIE1
When: 11 Jan 10 09:57
zilzal1

where in bethanl green and commercial rd
By:
John Leslie
When: 11 Jan 10 10:05
All this anti London nonsense is ignorant rubbish. There are some dumps in town but there are dumps in every town and every area. A lot of the areas mentioned are a bit mixed but to class them broadly as sh!tholes is nonsense. Hackney for example ranges from the 'Murder mile', which as its name suggests isn't ideal for bringing up a young family, to London Fields, which is one of the nicest areas east of the city and highly recommended on all fronts. Much of Hackney reaches neither extreme of course, but it certainly isn't all a sh!thole.....similar comments could apply to Brixton, Tooting etc etc.

I live in London and it isn't perfect but i definitely wouldn't swap it. For a man with a family it's probably not the best place to live, but if you are young and want to enjoy your life for me it's the best place to live in this country.
By:
theguesser
When: 11 Jan 10 10:43
Belated thanks Big Charlie; that was really interesting. All the roads in lower Limehouse where my dad's family lived are all bulldozed now too. Btw, still love London (and the bit that was once in Essex!)
By:
wit-ham
When: 11 Jan 10 15:28
yes zilzal i worked for old joe around poplar/bethnal green opp charlie's gym about the only place in london i didnt work was affectionally known as rourkes drift or tulse hill to be precise
By:
zilzal1
When: 11 Jan 10 22:15
Welshie, Watney Street, Just off the commercial road and A shop in between Stepney Green and Bethnal Green, both on Relief for William Masseys
By:
zilzal1
When: 11 Jan 10 22:20
Anyone remember Masseys LOL, you had a different colour ticket for every day of the week as they hadnt got carbon slips(circa 1979) oh well at least they let you change the camera yourself!!
By:
Big Charlie
When: 12 Jan 10 11:33
We were visiting the wifes grandparents in Manor Park (Manure Park to locals) about 15 years ago, and there was a Masseys betting shop almost next door to their shop.

I put a bet on and left it at that. In the next days paper I saw that I had am 11/8 winner and a non- runner.

It was about 4 months before I was over that again, and the shop had changed hands.

Feckers still owe me £11-87p :(
By:
tiptopcat
When: 12 Jan 10 11:49
i have lived in isle of dogs, leyton and balham and been out in a lot of london. tooting not too bad. great curries.

for those saying brixton is sopft as these days. it might be fashionable but there is till plenty of proper diodgy cu**s hanging around looking to cause problems.

came out of brixton tube couple months ago for a concert. literally about 15 black dudes stood on a corner openly selling drugs and intimidating everyone walking past.

lots of crack and smack heads hanging around looking for someone to rob, rip off etc. wasnt impressed to be honest and would never live there.

as previouysly mentioned it is how you carry yourself which matters. why would a mugger pick on someone confident who might fight back when there is some mug who is scvared of own shadow who will be along in 5 mins....
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