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29 Dec 09
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Are you for or against.
For me i would say yes in certain cases.
The amount it costs to keep the like of Huntly and Brady locked up is a fortune and in my opinion people like this should be disposed of with a bullet to the back of the head. The money saved by not having to keep them in secure prisions could be spent on giving drugs denied by the NHS on the grounds of cost.
For me i would say yes in certain cases.
The amount it costs to keep the like of Huntly and Brady locked up is a fortune and in my opinion people like this should be disposed of with a bullet to the back of the head. The money saved by not having to keep them in secure prisions could be spent on giving drugs denied by the NHS on the grounds of cost.
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Bring it on.
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Two wrongs do not make a right.
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As long as the foul was committed within the box.
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Aye. An eye for an eye I say.
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yes- on the grounds of humanity and most importantly- cost.
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seems like cost is a big issue to people
it costs more to execute someone in america than it does to keep them in prison for life... |
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second time i've seen that today, canary. why would it cost more?
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The exorbitant costs of capital punishment are actually making America less safe because badly needed financial and legal resources are being diverted from effective crime fighting strategies. Before the Los Angeles riots, for example, California had little money for innovations like community policing, but was managing to spend an extra $90 million per year on capital punishment. Texas, with over 300 people on death row, is spending an estimated $2.3 million per case, but its murder rate remains one of the highest in the country.
The death penalty is escaping the decisive cost-benefit analysis to which every other program is being put in times of austerity. Rather than being posed as a single, but costly, alternative in a spectrum of approaches to crime, the death penalty operates at the extremes of political rhetoric. Candidates use the death penalty as a facile solution to crime which allows them to distinguish themselves by the toughness of their position rather than its effectiveness. The death penalty is much more expensive than its closest alternative -- life imprisonment with no parole. Capital trials are longer and more expensive at every step than other murder trials. Pre-trial motions, expert witness investigations, jury selection, and the necessity for two trials -- one on guilt and one on sentencing -- make capital cases extremely costly, even before the appeals process begins. Guilty pleas are almost unheard of when the punishment is death. In addition, many of these trials result in a life sentence rather than the death penalty, so the state pays the cost of life imprisonment on top of the expensive trial. The high price of the death penalty is often most keenly felt in those counties responsible for both the prosecution and defense of capital defendants. A single trial can mean near bankruptcy, tax increases, and the laying off of vital personnel. Trials costing a small county $100,000 from unbudgeted funds are common and some officials have even gone to jail in resisting payment. Nevertheless, politicians from prosecutors to presidents choose symbol over substance in their support of the death penalty. Campaign rhetoric becomes legislative policy with no analysis of whether the expense will produce any good for the people. The death penalty, in short, has been given a free ride. The expansion of the death penalty in America is on a collision course with a shrinking budget for crime prevention. It is time for politicians and the public to give this costly punishment a hard look. |
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canaryboy - that can only be because they dont get on with it
an execution need not cost more than one weeks board and lodgings anyway- the yanks dont execute many each year |
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should the yanks be executing more then?
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Yes of course they should. Mur--diddly-urderers should be exterminated.
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its not the costly punishment - its the crappylegal process they employ
but thats up to them- we (Brits) should not criticise another country for doing their own thing- take China- they dont criticise us - do they?- the chinese view is that what other countries decide to do is fine and not their business |
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ok let's copy china then
they have a well respected legal system and are lauded for their human rights |
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i'm not criticising the yanks- but if a country has capital punishment - i would get on with it and clear the backlog- personally i think its cruel not to
a few years back 42 were executed in a whole year- paltry |
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did you seethe that year?
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Against.. Not on moral grounds but because of corrupt police, and in very high profile cases thay have to get a result..
Colinn Stagg and Barry George would both be dead to name just 2.. And yes i know that Huntley is guilty, i just think 1 wrong conviction and you can not change it.. |
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we're all agreed then. only backwards countries still have capital punishment.
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Rapists, fiddlers, serial killers, terrorists all should be killed off....fvck it, I'd do it for nothing...in fact as I now live in Canada I'd pay for airfare myself to come over and dispatch them.
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we dont have to copy china - or anybody else- we can muddle through our own way
in china - i hear- there are 48 different capital crimes- including serious fraud i understand that - i dont think its wrong |
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always nice to hear forumites mention how they'd carry out the death penalty themselves
makes them come across really macho so it does |
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sorry canary- i read this - it was a few years back - i was reading an interesting discussion / debate on this very subject
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Easter: i am convinced the wheel will turn and UK will adopt it again - with or without europe's backing - it may take a while
meanwhile we'll continue to spend 50K a year to lock em up whilst granny cant het her hip replacement due to lack of funding |
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For..and i would like to wield the axe.
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what about the 31 billion spent on military defence?
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gfy canaryboy...biggest dogooder of them all on here by far...grow some and do something a bit closer to the knife edge than knitting a hat ffs.
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well i'm still firmly against it but enough of a hypocrite to line half of ye feckers against the wall after the revolution and they make me el presidente!
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there was never a shortage of volunteer executioners in uk
in france it was a family profession - handed down from generation to the next- and one family at least had their own madam guillotine |
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Thist yeas Christmas Tv was visual death.
My lith playing up today. |
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viva el presidente!
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cheers swearbox
doing good is a quality attribute to have thanks again for recognising my greatness buddy |
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canaryboy 29 Dec 17:29
what about the 31 billion spent on military defence? good point - we could up that as well |
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tho regrettably, my greatness does not extend to knitting hats
i'm sure a nightclass or 2 would solve that tho |
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yeah we should up it, cos we're constantly under attack
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no- they cannot get the funding
however- if we were to save money on locking up criminals.... |
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Swearbox 29 Dec 17:29
gfy canaryboy...biggest dogooder of them all on here by far...grow some and do something a bit closer to the knife edge than knitting a hat ffs. the gfy above does not stand for 'good for you' |