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08 Dec 09
22:52
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and seriously injured an elderly man with unprovoked attacks, have got 19 and 21 years.
Who restricts the sentences the judge can apply, if in fact the judge is restricted, which I think he is?
This like many others was a diabolical crime, and yet they'll be free before they're 40.
orioles once gave me a link to guidelines but I've lost it.
Who restricts the sentences the judge can apply, if in fact the judge is restricted, which I think he is?
This like many others was a diabolical crime, and yet they'll be free before they're 40.
orioles once gave me a link to guidelines but I've lost it.
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What would you consider an appropriate sentence?
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His final, terrified words in a call to 999 just before he was attacked were broadcast on tonight's news. Minutes later he'd been murdered.
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5 years extra because we heard his last words on the news then?
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Life without parole seems apposite.
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Shenanigans
There's no doubt about their guilt, so the death penalty. |
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Oh, I see. That's that then.
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We dont have the death penalty.
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Shenanigans 08 Dec 23:55
5 years extra because we heard his last words on the news then? What are you on about? The fact that it was broadcast makes no fifference. |
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Indeed.
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Would someone attempt to answer the original question ffs.
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The guidelines will be from the Home Office who will have an eye on European recomendations.
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The broadcast.
Emergency service. Yeah, I've got 2 kids following me now. They've been asking me for a lighter, he's chasing me now. They're trying to kick my head in. Please hold the line. I'm on the Marina. He's chasing me now. Minutes later he was dead, and they get 19 and 21 years ffs |
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Shenanigans 08 Dec 23:54
What would you consider an appropriate sentence? Tied to chairs and locked in a room with a male from the family of the deceased for 15 minutes. He can borrow my pliers if he wants. |
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People that support the death penalty are psychologically flawed.
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How would you go about attempting to change these guidelines Dobbo, as they are patently ridiculous?
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Lupas
would you say that if two drugges murdered your mother for the price of a**of coke. |
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Spot on BC.
A tractor battery and some wires would be good too. Make sure their nads are wet first of course. |
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They probably consider facts rather than emotive outbursts.
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Shenanigans 09 Dec 00:02
People that support the death penalty are psychologically flawed. So if you were the judge, what sentence (without restrictions) would you impose? |
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The facts are, that there was an attack on a man which resulted in his death.
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Would take no pleasure in seeing them die at my behest, BC.
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Shenanigans 09 Dec 00:03
They probably consider facts rather than emotive outbursts They should consider the fact that some people in this country would kill them if it was their father. |
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And some wouldn't. What is it for you to judge?
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I realise that by now. Could you answer the question?
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21 years is hardly derisory/Its a long time from 18 to 40.
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Are you a christian Lupas, would you forgive the s(umbags ?
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Dobbo 09 Dec 00:06
21 years is hardly derisory/Its a long time from 18 to 40. it's a lot longer for the victim and his family. |
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No religious beliefs, in that sense. And probably not. Not really to do with whether I'd kill them or not.
And as for an appropriate sentence, 15, 20 or 25 years in the sort of establishment we have now makes no difference. |
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Of course it is bur be sensible
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hopefully murdered in prison
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Shenanigans 09 Dec 00:08
No religious beliefs, in that sense. And probably not. Not really to do with whether I'd kill them or not. And as for an appropriate sentence, 15, 20 or 25 years in the sort of establishment we have now makes no difference. So you think they shoulkd be realeased in years to come? If so please explain why! |
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They have been sentenced to life , the years quoted are the day the time they serve before they can apply for parole.
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I know nothing of this case but I bet they had previous. I take the view things might improve if these**bags were dealt with when they start beating people up rather than waiting for them to murder some poor sod.
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You never know, mitchell, in years to come things might be very different. I don't really see who you are to judge that. Perhaps you are an expert on the rehabilitation of offenders in a variety of different environments?
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Dobbo makes a very good point, I think.
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Thanks tobermory, I hadn't taken that into consideration. They'll still be released though in all probability.
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Shenanigans 09 Dec 00:14
You never know, mitchell, in years to come things might be very different They've still taken the life of a man. Things won't be different for him. |
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Things won't be different for the murderesd man or his family.
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Look, if you want this to be purely about vengeance, then fair enough. But at least ask the family of the man who was killed. You might be surprised.
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