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Yes! My ma was saying used to be frost nearly from october till march! Not even cold now!
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no for me
do u mean u dont think there's global warming or u dont think its man-made? |
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yes ,and used to be scorching long hot summers.not now.
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From the ice core data and satellite record i have seen, its a yes from me.
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no and no.
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you mean the data from the university of east anglia?the doctored data.
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Yes
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so the fact that arctic ice is melting faster than an ice-cube in a cup of tea is neither here nor there then?
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it makes u wonder what it would take for u idiots to believe in climate change!! sand dunes in manchester?
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didnt we once have an ice age
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emphatically, YES
this says it all, for me: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00656/Cartoon_656336a.jpg |
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you mean the data from the university of east anglia?the doctored data
No. There is a large amount of data around which this UEA story has unfortunately has now tarnished. Even though its nothing to do with them. They are not the the only climate scientists or source of climate data on the planet. |
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I look at photos I took 20 years ago and see how little haze there was compared to these days, its frightening.
Off course global warming exists, and of course its man made, anyone who claims otherwise is a fool. |
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Early Morning Riser 07 Dec 17:13
didnt we once have an ice age Once???? ONCE???????????????????? lol there have been at least two- surely you've seen the films? (there have been at least a dozen) |
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technically we are still in an ice age - there is permanent snow at the poles (at least for now!)
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harry, you should look at photos from 40/50 years ago.the smog was unbelievable.
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it's nature. get over it. probably the earth has changed many times since its creation. once we had an iceage then once you could walk to europe
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in fact we've been in an ice age in a general sense for the last 2 million years or so, its just that there are warmer periods in between the colder ones. at the moment we are in a warmer period but some time in the next few thousand years we are likely to go cold again
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Early Morning Riser 07 Dec 17:17
it's nature. get over it what is yr evidence that it is nature? |
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Global Warming is a convenient explanation for natural climatic change. The planet is forever evolving, little would be down to anything man made.
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the same place them climate change fools get theirs from
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why would we need a 'convenient explanation' for natural climate change???
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one word....tax.
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and where is that, EMR?
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u seriously think the whole climate change issue has been cooked up by governments as an excuse to raise taxes???
god help us |
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Tevez is God 07 Dec 17:22
and where is that, EMR? out of thin air tev. |
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the irrationality of human beings never ceases to amaze...
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Sir Denis Eton-Hogg 07 Dec 17:23
u seriously think the whole climate change issue has been cooked up by governments as an excuse to raise taxes??? god help us yep, its an easy way to get taxes. |
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ffs - give me strength
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Changing - yes clearly.
Man-made and can we make a difference? - not convinced at all. Should we try? - to some extent yes. What must we do? - adapt to live with the changes such as relocate away from flood areas and adapt housing to minimise flood damage etc. Withdraw from fossil fuels and consume less. |
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Withdraw from fossil fuels
aaah - u make it sound so easy!! :^0 |
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Sir Denis Eton-Hogg records only go back to the last 50yrs if that, so how can they say this has never happened since the earth was created then.
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ice core records go back thousands of years - just one example
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also pollen analysis
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Did I say easy - supply and demand will be the impetus.
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must be true....ive seen photos of polar bears on ice flows.
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one of the main problems is that the average joe has absolutely no concept of basic earth history. global temperatures HAVE fluctuated in the past but this is (roughly speaking) every few million years or so. for THE VAST MAJORITY of the past global temps have been very constant. the fact that they are changing so rapidly JUST AT THE SAME TIME THAT MAN IS PUMPING CO2 INTO THE AIR is a remarkable coincidence if not man-made
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so all this rain and floods are only happening now then???? read the bristol channel floods of 1607.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Channel_floods,_1607 |
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All I can deduce from this thread is hogg must be right & anyone who disagrees with him should be put in a straightjacket.
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