how is swine flu progressing btw?

when did they say that? i must have missed that.

Chinese govt is cutting its emissions 45%.

Are they part of the famous world wide conspiracy to raise taxes? They can force their citizens to only have one child. They can do what they want.

Perhaps they are spending billiions for a laugh.

like here- what they say and what they actually do can be 2 different things.

re spending - it is not their money is it- its taxes from the people. where do u think all the money goes- its to private businesses (who owns these? legislators and there buddies) to enourage green products etc. so taxpayer money funds pivate enterprise = said enterprise benefitting rather a lot!

aside from that, they, like here, intend to force energy prices up, pricing the masses out of the market to some degree, thus reducing consumption. they will not be reducing their consumption personally however- just ask al gore - the rule is for u not them.

Well I guess everyone just ignored their advice and kept having unprotected sex.

ok Zola , yes it probably was Tabloid stuff

though i'm sure i have heard from scientists that UK Summers would be significantly hotter as a result (and been hearing this for over 10 years) , and this hasn't happened yet, and wondered when it would take effect.

zola - more scientist disagree with global warming than agree. you're just not hearig the voices of the dissenters who are being marginalised and squeezed out.

tobermory 07 Dec 19:02
ok Zola , yes it probably was Tabloid stuff

though i'm sure i have heard from scientists that UK Summers would be significantly hotter as a result (and been hearing this for over 10 years) , and this hasn't happened yet, and wondered when it would take effect.



i'm still waiting for the promised summers like spain that they said was coming to the uk. and to think i bought suntan lotion in bulk on their false promises.

What will happen is that the odds of getting record temperature years will increase, until any particular year becomes an evens shot.

The models predict increasing rises from now on. The evidence backs it up:

In fact, most of the recent evidence reported from around the world suggests that the effects of global warming are occurring much faster than forecast: Arctic sea ice, for example, has shrunk in summer to levels not expected until around 2050. There is remarkably little evidence pointing in the other direction: if it were there to be found, the enormous fossil-fuel interests that stand to lose from emission controls would surely finance research to uncover it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/copenhagen-climate-change-confe/6729732/Copenhagen-climate-summit-gloomy-Swede-Svante-Arrhenius-saw-chill-wind-of-change.html

zola - more scientist disagree with global warming than agree. you're just not hearig the voices of the dissenters who are being marginalised and squeezed out.

There are not more scientists who disagree. Total lie. Don't start quoting that shonky petition at me, it's complete horse** and most decent sceptics stopped using it long ago.

Unless Ronald McDonald and M.Mouse are now respected climatologists.

Ghostdog 07 Dec 19:13
What will happen is that the odds of getting record temperature years will increase, until any particular year becomes an evens shot.

The models predict increasing rises from now on. The evidence backs it up:

In fact, most of the recent evidence reported from around the world suggests that the effects of global warming are occurring much faster than forecast: Arctic sea ice, for example, has shrunk in summer to levels not expected until around 2050. There is remarkably little evidence pointing in the other direction: if it were there to be found, the enormous fossil-fuel interests that stand to lose from emission controls would surely finance research to uncover it.


good news for the special betting betfair punters then, they have been trying to win money on the temp reaching 100f for years, so hang in there boys you might win one day within another 10yrs.

ghostdog - on one of the threads on this on politics last week i provided u with proof re numbers of scientists. u did not answer , and im not surprised.

re raw data someone mentioned - well you are privileged to see that since half of it was discarded in the 80s. they dont have the raw data - they are calling adusted figures raw, and provide no basis for how the adjustment is calcd.

the evidence i provided you explained how what you are referring to as evidence is in fact made up sht.

tbh you stink of vested interest.

the ipcc is bull - they edited 60% of reviewers comments. only 600 of the 2500 scientists were involved in the section dealing with causes of climate change and on future predictions. only 7 were involved in every chapter of that sections - 90%commented on just one section.

so ipcc is in short relying on a handful of opinions. and lets not forget the work it cites as backing up its assertions is written by.. ipcc authors! lol. coulnt make it up.

in usa there are 9000 phd scientists who disagree. 30000 other scientists signed on too to that arguement. in australia and new zealand there have been further leaks re data ot matching as it should. in finland they found the ipcc reversed their findings when adding it to the report.

and lets not ignore that yes west antarcitca is shrikning in terms of ice. east antarctica though, which is much bigger anyway, is GROWING.

emr why don't you go and fcuk yourself. Your postings on this thread are either fishing or retarded.

Is your name emr now don?

THE NEXT THING THEM CLIMATECHANGE/GLOBAL WARMING BRAINWASHED WILL BE SAYING IS THAT THE GRASS WAS GREENER 10YRS AGO THAT IT IS NOW.

believe whatever you want ghostdog.

i pity your naivity.

DonWarro give it up m8, you cant win an argument with the brainwashed and braindead. tunnel vision is all that they have got.

and don, we will end up paying extra taxes for their ill-founded beliefs thats the sad part about it.

good on you m8. hope it's somewhere warm