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Cheltenham Festival
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Santini - Gold Cup 2020
Santini - Gold Cup 2020
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Its hard to believe that some people are still saying Monalee doesn't stay. How much evidence do you need? If you couldn't figure that out 3 years ago when, despite not settling, he still managed to split penhill and wholestone in an albert bartlett, then you should give up the game.
And if he's not a genuine grade 1 horse then somebody needs to tell us who the grade 1 horses are because they obviously didn't run in the gold cup then. Can I point out that native river, another likeable and genuine horse but who usually comes up short at grade 1 level, has won only 2 grade 1s in his lifetime. And one of those was when beating the great Henry Parry Morgan in a novice. |
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native river has won 2 from 8 grade 1 over 3miles plus, monalee has won 0 from 9 and probally best not using wholestone as a yardstick when suggesting a horse stays 3 miles plus in the top grade
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Wholestone is a decent yardstick. He's a multiple grade 2 winner who has been placed in a Cheltenham Stayers hurdle and an Aintree Stayers hurdle, so yes, he is a genuine grade 1 standard hurdler who does stay 3 miles, and Monalee beat him 4 lengths.
Horses don't necessarily have to win to give us a handle on their overall ability. Monalee is as good as any of them at the moment from 2 and a half miles up |
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Monalee is a genuine, gallant performer, he'll rock up over anything between 2.4 and 3 but is one of those horses that will just always be a bridesmaid, he's a jack of all trades type, all be it at a high level.
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Just watching the 2020 RSA. Champ did so much wrong and still won. I would back him to beat Santini at levels every time. The second and third are very good horses.
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350k from a bridesmaid !
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You can only do so much missionary work on behalf of common sense, horse racing or the against "lets besmirch the Cheltenham Festival mob"
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I think Champ is a bit like Altior - he can quicken at the business end. But, his jumping is indifferent at times; Santini is lacking tactical speed. I hope he can emulate Paisley Park who also was lacking tactical speed last season.
As such, I cannot see Champ or Santini a force to be reckoned with in the King George 2020. |
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doubt either would even be considered for race
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Either is about 10 here, but I agree they'd be unlikely given their running styles. However, I think 10/1 about Lostintranslation is a goer if one could excuse his dismal performance in the same race last season. I just hope connections will forego the Betfair Chase with him come November.
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Well we gave it a good go !! 2nd and 3rd @ 12/1 and 14/1 from a year ago. Nice profit but so close to a huge payout....
Fair play to ABP and Townend who were in the right place at the right time. One thing I didn’t expect was the race to be run at a crawl which ultimately did for Santini. Next year I’m sure Henderson will look to inject more guaranteed pace into the race to help his entries. I’ve already started backing two horses for next years race and will start a new thread in the next few days. |
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"Santini is lacking tactical speed ".
  " i hope he can emulate paisley park who was also lacking tactical speed last season" WAFLOB |
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Yeah, because he got so close in the end he must have tactical speed.
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On greyhound t v a presenter called pat kelly said "this could turn out to be a tactical race" when acting as a tipster.
This "tactical speed" comes from submarine manouvres , thing what he means is turn of foot . Absolute bull of the highest order ! |