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he will 7 pound worse off in the arkle
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Oh ya, that could be more difficult then. But, Laurina gets a 7lb allowance, right?
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yes she gets the mares allowance but for me she wont be ling up here , jlt possibly, its reported she broke blood vessel today
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Melon wins his novice on soft ground
Form ties in with the fav At 16-1 hes still value Better ground would suit Global Citizen wins at Kempton despite jumping left Think Aintree would suit him better  |
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Dublin FESTIVAL ENTRIES will show
whose the Best Orish runner Im expecting Melon to win |
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Hoping for a nice run from Bapaume today, like this one for Cheltenham.
Impressed visually with him last time,and looks to be a fast improver. |
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Oh dear,that's that's that's that then.
Front two ran well,both big players at Cheltenham for sure. |
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Notebook looks a good thing if it stays sound and completes at the Festival.
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Was very busszie before todays race
That's why he drifted Hoping Global Citizen can SHOCK him |
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The first two today but particularly Notebook were very impressive, he nearly lost the race going to the start which would have to be a concern for Cheltenham, but he was also a bit keen through the first part of the race, where all bar two were racing off the pace and you were half expecting the race to collapse and fall back into their laps it was the other way round with two very good yardsticks in the two mullins horses that got cooked way out.
Notebook's jump at the 2nd last was special and the front two slugged it out from there, long enough out but battled it right to the line, great engine great attitude and will love the hill. 3/1 is very fair, I think a chunk of that price is down to his behaviour in the prelims rather than the opposition and I'd be happy with the price on that basis. |
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What a confusing race the arkle has turned into.
Notebook in theory is the rightful favourite taking into account its gutsy efforts this season. However, I am now unsure if the tighter old course at Cheltenham will be to its liking! In theory it’s a stone better jumping a fence, but it’s best performances have been on flat galloping tracks which has lead me searching for something else. Fakir D’Oudairies could be a danger but is another that would be best suited to the galloping nature of the new course. It also has to contend with no age allowance. Cash back should be able to turn the tables on Notebook, as it won in Naas recently so should cope with an undulating track more easily. Melon is still worth keeping an eye on at a big price! Yes it has a lot to make up on a few rivals, but when it gets to the old course at Cheltenham, it seems to come alive, and was given a very easy ride on Saturday. All of the sudden this race then opens up into some decent priced chances who’s main weakness seem to be they are best at 2m 4 and therefore may get done for toe in a normal Arkle. Brewingupastorm is a tough nut although may not have the speed Mr Fisher won in an eye catching time in December which was 3 seconds quicker that the Caspian caviar winner over c and d. That form has been let down a bit though at Sandown when Good Boy Bobby finished down the field. However Mr Fisher has since won over 2m since. Itchy Feet was not on my list after it bled after the supreme. But it’s now proved no ill effects have taken place and won in good style in what looked a very weak race on Saturday. That previous supreme form gives it important c and d form though. Global Citizen won despite its yard being badly out of form! Al Dancer has to have a chance on a few lines of English form, but horses of that sire normally curl up under the jockey when encountering a tough finish, having to eyeball another horses. Al Dancer appears to of done that! I must admit that I’ve been much more thoughough looking at Notebooks form at this stage, so may find many more chinks in the armour of the rest as time goes by. |
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Notebook's Ballymore run last year wasnt great (you wouldnt expect it though with his rating and price ) , the good thing about it was that he jumped straight .
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Brewin will have the speed.
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Barnsey, I won't repeat my thoughts on Notebook for the other thread.
Regarding Mister Fisher and Itchy Feet; I think both are very plausible Festival winners, but I would expect both to run in the Golden Miller instead. |
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I think Rouge Vif at 16 nrnb is pretty good value after that last performance.
He maybe being rather underestimated? Lot of talk about the Irish form-fair enough it looks good,but I think the british forms ok,and bigger prices available if you like it. |
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Yeah Rouge vif has been a favourite of mine ever since a novice hurdle race at kempton when it had Mr Fisher 2L ahead but getting 5lb, and Thomas Darby behind in 3rd off level weights.
I was really surprised it didn’t go to the supreme last season, instead winning at Kelso, beating Windsor avenue and Getaway Trump. It made a nice shape on its chasing debut, and stayed on when looking beat. It’s Cheltenham run over the Arkle course and distance in November was worrying though, although I was disappointed with it not being given more of a prominent ride. Hopefully that’s the only reason for the poor run. So the warning signs about Cheltenham are very much a negative - why did it skip the supreme? And was that’s its true running at Cheltenham in November? |
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Maybe the reason for Cheltenham was his breathing as he had a wind op three days later.
Much improved with his next run, and Warwick was very good performance I thought. Looks to be improving nicely and 16 nrnb is very fair imo. |
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Have added Mr Fisher nrnb at 12.
Hendo saying will consider this if soft enough. |
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that would be good news for me have mr fisher at 46 ish for this ,fort the bet was dead tbh ,bit of light at the end of tunnel now .
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Mr Fisher is indeed very interesting.
Looked a different horse at doncaster,his jumping was much slicker,travelled well,and came back on the snaff before the last.The winning time of that race suggests he is not short of toe,far from it. Great stat from Gaultstats,Hendo has run 8 novices with a hurdle rating 145 or above in this,4 winners and 3 seconds,MF was rated 144,that alone makes him dangerous. With course experience under his belt,he looks a danger to all if he heads here,I like him. No mention of the two mares entered yet. On hurdle ratings both would look out of place,but this is a different game. The skelton mare has been foot perfect in smaller fields,older than the profile of the last 9 winners,a very likeable sort.Progressive profile in lower grade,she is interesting. As with the supreme,trying to get a handle on the form from both sides of the water is just the beginning. Some lovely types in this,a race to savour as it stands. |
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Mr Fisher is rated 153
His time at Cheltenham in December was 3 seconds quicker than the caspian cup winner! Mr Fisher was carrying 11 stone that day, obviously different to the handicappers. |
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Henry sent.one over last year that won on the Sunday at Cheltenham. Put the kettle on. The horse jumped right but thats been worked on and the mare has been trained for the arkle . The syndicate is all booked up for cheltenham and the rain in the uk this winter is right up her street. At 25\1 shes a bit big for an arkle winner but each way shes value.
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Can’t think of many arkle winners who made there chase debut at Kilbeggan but to be fair she knows how to win races,and on a line through moon over Germany comes out ahead of notebook with the allowance.
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Yeh, I can see the logic behind backing PTKO,shrewd trainer who sent her there so has experience at the track.
20 nrnb appeals, especially if her jumping has been sorted. |
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Agree with sentiment , she looks a lovely mare and not ground dependant .
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Put the Kettle wins
Must have had a rain dance answered  |
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well done with put the kettle on irish and any others who put it up .good hit .
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Indeed,nice one
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Irishone
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Shishkin is the one if jumping is sound.
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That applys to m
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That applyx to modt of them.....another quality ost
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Try again .....that applies to most of them....another quality post....
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Hard to type when you are two sheets to the wind.
Imp, you are correct as usual. Looks a very similar type to Altior and if jumping soundly will be extremely hard to beat. 4/1 is a bit short at this stage but is the type that could be even better over fences. Sometimes is not all about betting and appreciation of a potential superstar. |
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Rsellly ? Mockin tha inflectec d ?
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Imp .....correct as usual.....PMSL
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You’re definitely inflicted but you do all the mocking
So you don’t fancy Shishkin ? |
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forms there for all to see and many will be wanting it but 4/1 is short atm imo , sishkin will prob be given a few penalty kicks and price should go shorter but if i was thinking of playing it would be with both elixir and capt guinness who didnt complete and were both going well at the time if they had stood up who knows what may have happened . that would be where the value is for me at this stage 25 and 20s vs 4/1 .........wats not ta ?
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