Interesting what Blake is saying about them being compressed and not going quick, if they haven't then it points even stronger toward the Supreme doesn't it, an end to end gallop and he'd have won by double the distance.

Michael O'Leary before the race said he'd could be a Gold Cup horse in 4 or 5 years, what a barmy owner.

I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE ONLY

Three Years

samcro is a monster, the second coming, no further commentary is necessary.

I will soon be starting a religion based around this horse.

The wagon was full a long time ago...

Scintillating performance. A superstar was born today. The way he powered away in a Grade One was beyond belief.

Can't see him going Supreme at all though. The stable money has been down on the Ballymore for a long time. No way all involved will be giving up those winnings.

Have to admit I was most impressed today. Hate being taken in by hype, but the eye don't lie and it was pretty much a demolition job.

Although they'll probably do their level best to avoid each other, wouldn't it be great to see Samcro against Getabird.

Well what can one say. Couldn't not have been more impressive. Looked like he was out for a hack canter. Been a long time since i've seen a novice get applauded on the run in. Great when they live up to the hype. And trust Gordon Elliott to make the AP punters squirm by saying (paraphrasing) "sure we might just miss Cheltenham altogether with him". Himself and O'Leary are a perfect match, the piss takers.

Still think he goes Ballymore even after that. One thing is for sure though and that's a decision on Getabird will not be made till they know where the beast is going.

Dont forget that Willie has Next Destination though who has looked every bit as good as Getabird. I think its a certainty that Getabird goes or the Supreme and Samcro the Ballymore myself.

The question will be whether he wants to take on Samcro with ND or move him to the AB to avoid him? Alot of the formlines are confusing to me this year and think some horses have bee running very different races. I struggle to believe a few ran to their best in that yesterday... certainly Sharjah cant have done.

Its hard to know which horses are the solid yardsticks imo. Samcro beat Paloma Blue 9l yesterday, and ND beat the same horse by 14l at Naas earlier this season... has that horse improved or does this mean there isnt as much between Samcro and ND as so think? If Duc des Genievres is reliable, it appears there isnt either. ND beat him 4l giving him 3lbs and Samcro beat him 5l giving him 1lb.

If these two horses are reliable, then there isnt a great deal between the two, albeit Samcro has been visually more impressive. BUt ND has been to the Festival already and run great race, whereas Samcro hasnt. I think they will be tempted to take him on with ND now.

I think this thread was covered last year...... there are 27 races other races to sort out. Move on.....

Neither can I nevertheless, should Getabird is targeting the Champion Hurdle (CH), assuming both win their respective races (hopefully running in different races) next month; Samcro is still relatively a young horse and taking in the CH would only mean a slight "delay" to his chasing aspirations', all being well. And what a prospect that will be!

Might they consider the champion hurdle this year?
I'm never an advocate of novices running in championship races, but with only BuvD'air to beat in the CH and a chasing career already mapped out for next season, it wouldn't be the biggest shock.
He would start second favourite at the least.
*Disclaimer, I've laid him for the Ballymore and after that demolition job yesterday am desperately clutching at straws

I think Rhinestone Cowboy might be the last and of course there was some talk of Dunguib doing it too.
I suppose my only hope is that neither of those turned out to be the 'machines' that they were lauded as at this point in their respective novice hurdling campaigns.
I have to say though, this fella looks the real deal.

If I was trying to pick holes and look for a possible flaw, I'd perhaps note that with regards 2 miles on quicker ground the way he hurdles is more chaser like, he gives them a bit of air, not like a real top 2 mile hurdler that flicks through the top of them at pace, bit like what Binocular was like, maybe a rapid speedy 2 miler might give him a bit to think about. With that in mind the Ballymore must be the best option for him.

I think the Supreme would be more of a calvary charge right to the 2nd last or last and at a quicker pace too whereas in the Ballymore/Neptune the race would tend to pan out with about 3 hurdles to go. As connections had said prior to the Deloitte he ran there instead of the 2m 5f Nathaniel Lacy was mainly due to the anticipated soft/heavy going deemed too demanding for a novice.

I know we are getting ahead of ourselves a tad here, but so what,bit of fun.
Ballymore then whatever race at Punchestown.
Slightly different for me next season, Arkle or JLT.......dont think they will even consider the RSA.

There is no way connections of the stable are giving up their fancy prices in the Ballymore. It's been the plan all season. No way they run in the Supreme.

Good point Budd  He really does look the real deal and I hope ultimately that he is! I would be worried about him staying 3 miles. His Sire, Germany, hasn't produced any decent stayers
Same sire as Faugheen who is by far the best offspring and then Captain Cee Bee who was pretty much a 2 miler. I cant see the RSA as a target either unless there is enough stamina from the Dams side

I agree GAZO don't think he had loads left in the tank but that's because the horse isn't a natural 2miler so going that speed throughout would have taken a fair bit out of the horse

Robbie says Champion Hurdle, be a few long faces on ere

Tbf they would need to consider it.