You know it's getting near to the Festival when you open the forum up & there's been 50 posts on the Yorkhill thread... I'm still clawing back losses from last year's NR in the CH after all the chat on here convinced me he was going to run (mainly you Duffy as one of his main supporters!). On at 25s on here & happy with that in case he has a 'going day'. If he does turn up it also should push out the MTOY without BD & TBP prices I'm hoping...

C’mon Duffy, old boy. This is the Yorkhill thread, excitability and hyperbole are to be encouraged.
Besides we all have cliff horses, I had a strange crush on Champion Court a few years back At least yours is a top class crush!
I did answer your question by the way, 4/1. But the fact that if he does run he will probably go off shorter than that, even taking into account his poor campaign, is ridiculous. I’ll be place laying him if I see evens to place.
Not that it really matters, but I did see him as a Gold Cup horse and if they were to scratch this season entirely and start again with him next year, I still think he’s capable.

Being beat before the off is the problem though Duffy. As others have mentioned, no doubt at some point he will return to form and put in the sort of stunning performance we all know his capable of - but he's not shown that for 12 months now and it's a leap of faith to expect it to be next time given how bad he was a few weeks back. We can't just ignore that when deciding to bet, can we? Or are you suggesting if he had run that weekend in the Faugheen/Supasundae race, that he would've been fine?
I hope he does show up though, as you're right, it will make it a better renewal and I'll clean up on place laying him

I suppose it how you look at it, when a horse is beat pretty much immediately then I can put a line right through it, it would be much harder to do so if he'd run and was beat on merit.

Do I think that something was wrong physically as some have suggested that isn't being identified...absolutely not, to think that there is something that manifests itself immediately into a race but doesn't in the hours of galloping he does at home is madness and he ran perfectly well for a large part of the Lexus, how people can't see how well he jumped and travelled for a large part of that race is strange to me, his finishing position was down to Townend downing tools when his stamina gave out.

I liked his Lexus run and was very surprised he was immediately dismissed as a Gold Cup horse. I thought he got tired FTO, which was compounded by him clipping the last in the back straight, rather than ran out of stamina. Townend was very easy on him after the last, which I didn't mind either, he's a class horse, no point souring him if he's not winning.
But then the next run was too bad to be true, you won't find too many winners of Championship races at the Festival to have come off the back of a run like that - it's not like they're trying to get him handicapped for a shot at the County Hurdle! You can put a line through it if you like, but I'd be looking elsewhere for the winner.
You watch, he won't even show up, like that other forum obsession Finians Oscar. There will be the thick end of 100 horses win or place at this years festival - these two probably won't but have had more comments than the rest put together, funny old world.

I think they thought very much that they had a CH horse after his Neptune win, the thing was back then they also had Faugheen and Annie who had just obliterated her CH field too, so they decided to go chasing with him.

They are now hoping that still exists.

RUK are replaying the 2017 festival, gets you in the mood doesn't it, they've just started so in about 20 minutes I'm going to re-watch BD outstay PM and co.

They can still go chasing with him,its not as if he aint won a festival chase.
I really don't think its about the type of obstacle he has to jump, but whats in his head.
He can perform at a high level, we have seen it over hurdles AND fences.
Its just a matter of not knowing when he will do it, and that's bl00dy tricky when punting!!

Tidal Bay

I think this is the 451st post on the thread. You would n't get a thread like that about Buveur D'Air would you? Stripping it down to basics Buveur D'Air has won 11 out of 12 races over obstacles only missing out in the Supreme that imp loves banging on about.

The biggest controversy about him was when they switched him back to hurdles after his Warwick win over fences - he just turns up, races, wins, goes home, trains, turns up again, races, wins - never appear to be any rumours about his soundness so I'd assume he's got a solid block of training behind him all season - trainer's biggest concern is that he needs a lot of work - sounds like a nice problem to have.

Buveur D'Air is still only 7yo so every chance he will be capable of putting up his best performance yet in the Champion Hurdle, Yorkhill would surely have to improve on his best hurdles form to date to beat Buveur D'Air on the back of a haphazard preparation - if you've got 25s or 36 or 30+ about that happening then well done, clearly worth persevering but I've no interest in backing him at the current prices especially given he's only 60/40 to run in the race (whatever that means).

Finally, imp stated that his last run might have come too soon after his run at Christmas (even though as Desmond pointed out the ground at Christmas was hardly atrocious and Yorkhill was n't given a hard time once it was clear he would n't be winning).There were 37 days between his Christmas run and his Dublin Racing Festival run. There will be 38 days between his last run and the Champion Hurdle so it will clearly be Mullins' fault for running him back too sooon if he does n't win.

Nice one imp, getting next years CH planned for nice and early....his 4th festival success on the bounce

All the bias and bullshit from I123 saying Yorkhill must run in the CH and it turns out he was so confident he has a whole £2 on it - of which he has laid nearly half off.

Unbelieveable.

All the bias and bullshit from I123 saying Yorkhill must run in the CH and it turns out he was so confident he has a whole £2 on it - of which he has laid nearly half off.Laugh

I missed that! Utterly brilliant!
Even if it wins, his hourly rate from his relentless posting on here would make a job at Maccy D's look like winning the lottery.
You couldn't make it up!

It's not the £2 that's funny Duff, we all have different pockets and mine are by no means the deepest.
It's the laying off that cracked me up

looks totally gone to me this beast, be amazed if showed

The market is saying Ryanair is the more likely target over the Champion Hurdle (CH) now which Mullins alluded a few weeks ago. Is Walsh getting his way (again) perhaps; Walsh has Faugheen in the CH.

Yorkhill is not top class. The Sun Alliance Hurdle it won was the worst in history.

For the avoidance of doubt, I have n't backed him in anything and won't be doing so - you're not going to beat yourself up if you're not on and he wins are you? Not based on what we've seen since last year's festival.

I’ve finally cracked, was sure I posted this on the Ryanair thread in response to Imps ‘gatecrashing’ line about Yorkhill.
Well, I had a good run.

Nope. This Yorkhill saga has finished me off, I reckon.
I’ve no bloody interest in backing the thing either!!!
Been going through the two Tuesday caps, which has part addled my brain, not knowing the ground ain’t making it any easier.......