Cheltenham Festival
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Easy to get neurotic, of course, concerning any market twitches at this stage, but Faugheen's price twitched for several days before news came of his withdrawal.
Vautour was available at around 5.6 a week ago and has now drifted to 6.4, despite the going at Cheltenham reported as having dried out and a dry long range forecast.
Is he OK, might he yet be re-routed or is this a big opportunity for his fans to pile in?
Vautour was available at around 5.6 a week ago and has now drifted to 6.4, despite the going at Cheltenham reported as having dried out and a dry long range forecast.
Is he OK, might he yet be re-routed or is this a big opportunity for his fans to pile in?
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Looks like more a case of Don Cossack firming up. The money has really come for him the last week or so. GL.
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but will it stay? #doubtful
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Lovely horse who appears to be at his best around Cheltenham in spring. The fact he was outstayed by a non-stayer in the king George would worry me though...
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You waited this long to say that?threads full of statements like that why did'nt ye jist cut'n'paste
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ffs don't bring up that old will he wont he stay issue its been done to death weve had the post mortom, the sermon , the funeral,and weve scattered the ashes ,now some feker comes along and wants an exhumation !
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Yeah, Mullins and co were so pi55ed off with hearing it at every other turn they resorted to whacking Faugheen and AF just to give us something else to talk about
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I'll give my opinion whenever i like thanks. Are you 2 the feking forum police or what .
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they're Vautour backers, being hurt listening to the known evidence(or the truth) over and over again
Trivia: how many Vautour threads do we need to make sure he'll stay the trip and give The Don a good race? |
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Outstayed by a non stayer, Think I've heard everything now.
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Outstayed by Cue Card whose trainer insists is a real stayer these days,and I for one believe him watching the horse.
As for Vautour,think I may have said this before!!,he ran like the textbook non stayer at Kempton,and now has a further 2 furlongs with an uphill finish to contend with. |
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on better ground going left handed at a place where he's looked impregnable in both his starts to date, with the fact ruby will hold onto him a little longer than he did at Cheltenham!
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*kempton
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wasnt exactly a bog at kempton
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will be better ground at Cheltenham, if it rains and comes up soft it cant win, but i'll be looking to trade big time if his conditions come right, he'll be pouring it on coming down the hill with them all at it in behind! I think he will trade as short as even money at some point during the race, probably lower.
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Shouldn't we be taking the 5/4 NRNB for the Ryanair. That's a penalty kick and still wouldn't surprise me if they changed their minds. At worst it's saved us some money for the Friday if he doesn't run.
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be surprised if they let you have a decent bet at 5/4,be nearer 1/2 if it ran in the ryanair
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365 are 5/4. Sportingbet Evens. Would be odds on if they ran, but Ricci has said Gold Cup, but I just wonder?
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I've filled my boots on the 5/4 Ryanair NRNB.
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Yep, no downside at all Chief. I'm in.
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Well it is possible he runs and loses,that's a fair downside
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Budd try to be sensible. No ones laughing.
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Sorry mate.
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Been trained for Gold Cup all season not sure why they would switch now, unless going goes heavy which appears unlikely looking at forecast.
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But 5/4 for Ryanair nr no bet is a no brainer.
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Yeah, I fully expect to have my stake returned, as I'm pretty sure he'll go Gold Cup, but nice to know you've got a great bet sitting in the background incase they do switch plans.
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I've personally started to come round to Don Poli. Think he's a staggering good chance. The race is perfect for a horse like him, meets most stats so at least them gurus would be happy should he do it.
I don't know why but every time I think of this race now I think of his name and for some reason probably a thoroughly ridiculous comparison but all I think about when I try to compare is long run  |
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well chief,
How much would you like to win if Vautour is rerouted to the Ryanair, £100? If so, would it not be a better option to put just, say £10, on the Exchange at 12.5 to win £115 instead of £100 with the on street bookies at evens? Also, you could also lay some off prior to the race. |
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I don't expect him to run in the race mate, and don't want to chuck another tenner away (I've been doing that a lot on antepost recently and they soon add up!).
That bet is just a bit of insurance in case he does run. |
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I have some 5/4 on vautour just to run in the gold cup! But iv always thought Don poli was the most likely winner also cue card must have a great chance as he seems to have the best form of them all this season.
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Now this is getting curious.
On the day that the RP has Mullins stating that the Gold Cup has always been the plan and that he's confident that Vautour will "easily stay" the distance, his price for the Gold Cup drifts further still (last matched 7.2, from 5.5 a couple of weeks ago) while, having been as long as 20 for the Ryanair, he suddenly shortens back to 4.8. Am I missing something? |
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Because he said atm gold cup looks to be the race the for vautour, options are open.
Also later went on to say about "he has yet to sit down with ruby on what he wants to ride in each race and that will play a big part in where the horses will go |
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I think it all hinges on Djakadam myself. If he's 100% (which they are saying he is), then Ruby will ride him in the GC and Vautour in the Ryanair.
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I'm with you CCM. Fill up on NRNB is my advice for the Ryanair.
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Already have at 5/4 mate!
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This stable does my head in.
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Just cannot see both running in the Gold Cup, so yes I agree,it all hinges on Djakadams well being.
It would go against normality not to try and win two races with them. Will be a bit p!ssed off if Vautour goes Ryanair,as I have Al Ferof at a nice price,but it happens. |
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Especially when WPM also has Don Poli and Valseur Lido has become a more credible challenger. 3 bullets in the big one and 1 penalty kick in the Ryanair, or all 4 bullets in the big one. I know what I would do... and what Ruby will want to do!
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Chief
They certainly make the most of all the races on offer at the festival these days,suits them down to the ground with the amount of horses they have. No more antepost with their horses for me,unless I am pretty sure in my mind about targets. |