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Faughheen, what am I missing?
Faughheen, what am I missing?
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Annie powers record
12 runs 11 wins 1 error of judgement by Ruby(and he will tell that himself) She can only do what is asked of her. |
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Bubble was burst last year
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Would that error of judgement have anything to do with watching More Of That scampering away fro her after the last as if someone had lit a fire under his ar5e Brasso?
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"@maelduin 8/11 with bookies not on exchanges"
 Not a chance in hell Faugheen is less then 5/4 at the off. Every bookie worth their salt should be laying Faugheen at around that price and higher. Faugheen has never been in a race that resembles anything like the CH. Last years time was a record and with multiple JP entries you can bet they're going to try and set it up for Jezki again. Even the great Istabraq had to prove himself the first time he won a CH and his price reflected that on the day. The hype is ridiculous. |
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duffy • March 2, 2015 4:31 PM GMT
Howdi 02 Mar 15 15:51 that run at punchestown last year was the single most impressive performance i have seen in last 5 years. apart from that OP has a point I'll go for SS laughing at the 170 rated Cue Card and flemenstar just for good measure, for that particular honour...there are others though!...hurdling yr monkey |
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The hype says that Jezki last year record time from 4 out is similar to Faugheen's last year time from 4 out. Someone posted a link around here, or search for turftrax records on google, you'll figure it out this hype
... Even if they'll lay him in the morning, they'll have so much cash coming in their way that by 12pm he'll shorten him again.. |
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@brassneck Annie has other worries now, she needs to come back to form to play with the Mares, I believe you though she's the greatest hurdler alive
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To be considered the best you have to beat the best, which Faugheen has yet to do which is why 5/4 is not for me. Massive potential, huge engine and done all that has been asked to date, but why anyone would take 5/4 at this stage is beyond me. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if he won, but i think there are better bets. I'm on the new one at 4/1 because he has answered some of the questions Faugheen has yet to answer. Can't seem to forget how TNO finished up the hill last year. I firmly believe the momentum lost from the hampering cost him and I think if STD can get him there or there abouts over the last then he will have what it takes to win
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ok,let me give you all a valid point that nobody seems to pick up.THE NEW ONE=this horse has a problem and nobody seems to talk about it,
Every time this horse jumps I imagine he jumps to the right at the hurdle,now the champion hurdle will be run at a very fast pace and I can see this horse losing a few lengths over the hurdles,he is going to have a problem throughout the race and will need to be right up with the pace to be in with a chance. But nobody seems to see this problem ,or am I imagining it. |
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@brassneck I just mentioned that in a sarcastic post in Faugheen thread. I think the ground he encountered at Haydock lto has nothing to do with the fact that he tries to avoid and jumps them markedly to the right, but we could be wrong and he will jump beatifully in the CH, right? No pressure for a 3/1 shot...
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on the other hand I would not like to be on any horse and have the new one charging at me up the hill,but of the four who look like being the main contenders,the fly and the new one are the battlers,while faugheen seems to be finishing 3rd everytime I run the race in my mind.If Faugheen comes off the bridle we will all see a horse that nobody knows until it happens (in other words guess work)
So we are left with Jetski who fumbles his hurdles when under pressure. So if Annie does not run,and I delete Arctic fire at my pearl it looks like its between the new one and the fly going over the last together with the new one losing the length jumping to the right and the fly battling to the post to win by a half a length. Sorry for spoiling the race for you guys. |
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oh great you've taken out all the excitement for us.. should put a spoiler alert next time.. oh and Annie will win even if she's not in the race since she's Pegasus reincarnated I'm sure she has a pair of wings and will appear out of nowhere to take the victory from The Fly with few furlongs to run, she's that GoOoD
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Hf and jezki only race against each other,and had a good handicapper splitting the last time,the new one can't jump and couldn't win last year,faugheen is beating horses without breaking sweat,it won't come off the bridle !
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The new one jumps better on good ground but the pull to the right seems to be on soft ground,so if the ground is good it would not surprise me to see the new one go top of the betting,but the ground is so important to them all.thats why Annie is still in the market.willie mullins has a horse entered for all king of ground,so he intends winning the race,but he hopes hurricane fly will be the one.
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Arctic Fire either brings the form down, or has really improved, which one is it ? He's still rated about the same as Purple Bay so the price disparity is just
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I know he hopes its Fly.. Faugheen can win for him all the races in the world and Mullins will still respect another horse eg. Arctic Fire, Douvan, Nichols Canyon, etc more than him.. so no surprise there its all out in the open in all his interviews..
The good ground will straighten TNO hurdling, I'm sure of that and 3/1 looks a HUGE value bet on that HOPE, he's sure to go off odds-on on this hope which seems more a certainity |
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And another point I would like to make about Faugheen is that the horse called the machine has been talked up and up by our very own motor mouth Matt chapman(the tan man on at the races)and his opinion (which he is entitled to have)is a bit like his tan=fake.imvho.
So everytime we hear anything of Faugheen its mister chapmans words that are repeated by the gravy train all the time. |
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one morning last week or so he was envious of 2 jockeys with nicer tan than himself
 But yeah the fact that he also belives Faugheen is The Machine clearly means he'll lose, of course |
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I think the new one is certain to be in the first 3,and with a little luck in running he can win it,and if he is thereabouts at the last hurdle he will be the one finishing ,but if the fly is also there,i think the fly will out battle him.
so for me its 1 hurricane fly 6/1 2 the new one 2/1 jf 3.Faugheen 2/1 jf nr=ANNIE POWER. |
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Istabraq is also a N/R. You should be precise and mention every great alive hurdler in the same breath as Annie POWER
Faugheen no chance he'll be 3rd, he hasn't beaten anything so far so why should he go so close, he's either a bomb or a win because his form doesn't suggests anything in the middle really  Happy with Fly as the winner, of course only if Annie is N/R |
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IF THIS CANADIAN WEATHER MOVES IN NEXT WEEK,I CAN HEAR WILLIE NOW"we thought that the way the going is now we decided to give Annie her chance and ruby believes she might be better running in the CH as to the longer race after her injury,so we will see how she gets on "
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At least Chapman isn't scared to ask questions that others don't,can't wait to see faugheen hose up !
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this is fun brassneck, you hear other voices or just Willie's ?
The CH is much eaiser race of course than the Mares hurdle or World Hurdle, CH is so undemanding that she could run in all 3 races during the week, of course she'll be the one that hoses up in the CH, Faugheen will be lucky if he gets within 20 lengths off her, she's amazing, I think I also start to hear Willie voice Oh yeah its his interview bashing Faugheen..  |
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Remember this,
Ruby said and its on the record="When Annie reappears I will be in the saddle" no ifs,no buts, And that my friends is why Annie Power is not allowed run in the champion hurdle.At the moment,but still a few days left to sort things out, And now for the weather forcast. A COLD SNAP OF ARCTIC CONDITIONS is making it way from Canada towards the Cheltenham area of England.its expected to arrive on Tuesday.we will keep you up to date with ANNIE changes because of the deepening wet conditions that are expected. |
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the Arctic Weather is bad for the Fire while its great for Annie and Fly, the 2 greatest hurdlers in training, of course preference goes to the former as she is without doubt the FIRE of the festival after so much time off the track she looks a certainity |
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Did you know that when the fly run at Cheltenham last year,it was discovered after the race that his blood count was wrong,and puzzled Willie.
Another point is that everyone says hurricane always runs poorly at Cheltenham.he does not do two badly when you think about it.like he won the race twice,not bad for a horse that always runs poorly. And as for Annie,she is favorite for two top races at chelenham .that's not bad for a mare that is lame and has not run for a year.but this year Annie will do her own talking. |
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Nothing can live with her on the gallops, That's set me up for a day of laughter, Thank you
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timtin Jezki doesnt hold the fastest time from 4 out in the champion(not in the last 20 yrs anyway)
and Faugheens time in the Neptune was approx 1second(6 lengths) slower than Jezki |
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Of course Faugheen had already run four furlongs further than the horses in the champion.
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@brassneck -- TNO jumping right is well-known and has been widely remarked on. Despite this, he is the leading British contender and might have won last year's Champion Hurdle had he not been badly hampered.
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"timtin Jezki doesnt hold the fastest time from 4 out in the champion(not in the last 20 yrs anyway)
and Faugheens time in the Neptune was approx 1second(6 lengths) slower than Jezki" Yes but they both ran similar times from 4 out so clearly Faugheen is 2X more likely to win the CH then Jezki. At least that's what the mug punters backing Faugheen say. |
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Yes well the HYPE Faugheen was 6 lengths slower in recorded time than Jezki from 4 out, of course we all know that Faugheen remained absolutely at the same level as his 4 runs ago in the Neptune where he crashed 3 out losing how many lengths ? and stumbled at 2 out losing maybe another how many lengths ? and we all know Jezki didn't had a pacemaker to help him achieve those sectionals from 4 out, he did it all by himself unlike Faugheen who had ... wait Faugheen took the lead from 4 out so who helped him establish those fast sectionals ? well nvm. conclusion: Jezki has improved a ton on that last year run and is expected to replicate it in finest details this time around as he's a spring horse of course while Faugheen poor poor lad he's simply a hype who's going to eiter bomb or win and hasn't beaten anything so far ooohh so trendy stuff
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Gutfeeling
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Tell Brassneck as he thinks a piece of homework (which I hope he actually witnessed with his own eyes btw) over god knows what distance with who knows what the jockeys were carrying weight wise on some polytrack is something to bring up when debating horse racing, Hilarious.
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come on don't crush his dreams... whats wrong with you ?
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comment, wasn't aimed at you
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For 15 minutes only on saturday Laddies were pricing Faughine at 2-1 £25 maximum bet.
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No worries Timtin or cricklenut2, I'm just playing around.
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No worries Timtin or cricklenut2, I'm just playing around.
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