Cheltenham Festival
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05 Feb 15
18:07
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One last chance on Saturday for a horse who's fast becoming my cliff horse 
The fact there was a problem with the Jonjo yard earlier in the season when TDS ran so badly (particularly in Betfair Chase) where he hit every fence until BG pulled him up is encouraging as he's clearly a lot better than we've seen this season,
They're obviously hoping to run him in the Gold Cup with Saturdays race in mind,If he wins Saturday he'll half in price as he'll be even better over the extra 2 and a bit furlongs at Cheltenham,Here's hoping
The fact there was a problem with the Jonjo yard earlier in the season when TDS ran so badly (particularly in Betfair Chase) where he hit every fence until BG pulled him up is encouraging as he's clearly a lot better than we've seen this season,
They're obviously hoping to run him in the Gold Cup with Saturdays race in mind,If he wins Saturday he'll half in price as he'll be even better over the extra 2 and a bit furlongs at Cheltenham,Here's hoping
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Jonjo hitting form too, still dont trust him one little bit.
TDS owes me a few quid this season  |
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Maybe he's just one of them horse's that has you thinking at the end of every race "next time"
Travels really well in his races and is a lovely jumper (bar last time when he jumped like a crab) As i say,Saturday will be his last chance with me  Until he turns up in the GC at huge odds and i wont be able to resist |
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He was never travelling at Haydock and he was sensibly pulled up. His blood count was found to be all wrong and has apparently only recently returned to normal. Unlikely to be fully wound up for Saturday where conditions should suit.
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Burnt my fingers twice this season on him.
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Jonjo to have a Gold Cup 1-2-3 Shutthefrontdoor, Taquin Du Seuil & Holywell plus a Ryanair / Stayers double Johns Spirit & More of That. What odds?
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6 zeros i reckon
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About 6 million to one should be, knowing the bookies and his followers probably odds on
 God I get fed up with all this Jonjo is sh1te all year till March, don't know of any other trainer that can have horses whose prices hardly change all year despite either not running or running badly. |
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TDS stays 3m2f round Cheltenham well enough to win a gold Cup....that's the day I give up.
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Well he's no worse a horse than Lord Windermere,So maybe you'll be giving up sooner than u think.
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No worse at 3m2f?
We shall see. |
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jonjo said after the Charlie hall in which tds finished 2nd "now we know he definatly stays 3m+"......hopefull that this one will put in a much better performance this time and put him spot on for march ,have back all 3 of jonjos for the gold cup and barring holywell have big odds ,fingers crossed
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Cheltenham roar is it you who has also been nibbling at tds and shutthefrontdoors odds on here ?
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And you trust Jonjo Foyles?
Good luck with that. Have to say using the Wetherby race as some sort of yardstick for a horse staying 3m2f in a Gold Cup is not what I would be doing.Race was full of non stayars and a seriously unfit Conti. Still, I guess he deserves the chance to prove he stays,just never know for sure till they try. |
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Well since he's only ever raced 3 miles twice in his career to date and was staying on over 3 miles 1 and Wetherby then yeah we clearly will have to wait,But don't really see how anyone can be so adamant that he wont stay given what we've seen of him so far.
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Not me Foyles,Just TDS
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budd if jonjo said its snowing outside I would open the cutains and check for myself but one thing I would trust jonjo to do is to get his horses spot on for the festival
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Buddeliea these horses ain't handicappers, Holywell and tds,no reason not to try on these,Holywell is a spring horse,tds hasn't jumped well enough,and the yard has been out of sorts but is getting better by the day,do agree regarding tds staying 3 mile 2 though
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CR,he may stay,i may be wrong.
From what ive seen of the horse though he looks like a horse that needs 3m at most,and probably slightly less to bring out the best in him. And he needs to jump better to win a Gold Cup as well as stay well. I will be amazed if he proves me wrong,but this games done it to me before. |
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cheltenhamr .............you keep nipping in front of me!
but to be honest no worries I am baws deep on all 3 ,I just keep topping up with small amounts from winnings on the daily racing, good luck |
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cuf,i aint suggesting they wont try,why would I??
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All about opinions lads
 He very well may not stay but he looks a stayer to my humble eye,He may not even be good enough but it's all part of the fun finding out and then coming back here gloating if he hacks up in march Foyles im a glutton for punishment,please feel free to nip ahead of me next time |
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Sorry thought you said you don't know for sure they will try,which can be said with his handicappers.
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Fair enough, but really,would you not want better prices to find out,like prices that reflect form during the season perhaps?
Are you both just backing cos they are Jonjos and he gets them there,and ignoring the price? I mean take Holywell,been virtually the same price all season despite a real poor run and a long absence. |
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No mate, I meant try as in try 3m2f.
No worries. |
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budd i backed shutthefrontdoor at 100s all the way down to 25s on hereand laid off my stake at around 20 on here have also backed tds at around 70s down to 40 plus holywel around 18 -16 . all 3 are all open to lots more improvement and 2 are proven at the festival stfd has won an irish grand national as a novice under a biggish weight and although not beaten much could be anything
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just think there could be lot more to come from all 3 but as too the best of them who knows ,that's why i had to back all 3 ,
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Well that's all fair enough mate,those sort of prices.
Wish ya luck. |
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cheers budd ,may be way off the mark but with jonjos being out of sorts for much of the season it could be a blessing in disguise as they could arrive at the festival relatively fresh horses who have not had many hard races in heavy going this season ,that's what i am hoping anyway ..........good luck with yours !
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Yeh,i can see that point of view,blessing in disguise and all that.
Just never know in this game. Whatever one thinks of Jonjo,his horses will always have that air of - whats gonna happen - with them when it comes to the festival |
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Jumped like a pig again
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wernt too clever tbh
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thought he jumped ok, came to win the race 3 out and got done by a better animal.
I thought he would stay on better as all challow hurdle winners get 3miles at least. |
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jlt form not worked out
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i wonder whether they will drop him in trip for ryannair now with some headgear maybe...not a forlorn hope in that race, i'm not sure he stays tbh
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was noticeably free in first half of race and was constantly being reined back after jumping very well which inevitably led to a few jumping mistakes and being too far off the leader who was a certain stayer - clearly one for another day, most likely the festival
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Just don't jump well enough to be able to get home over a distance probably too far anyway.
Two and a half miler imo,and needs to jump better. |
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Taquin's Cheltenham target will be the Ryanair. The Gold Cup will wait for another year. Jonjo's Gold Gup horse will be Holywell.
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Yep, Ryanair.
Jonjo says he don't stay....hes right. |
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Gone for a walk on here. Doesn't look great
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