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Not really drifting much on here went out to 22 but back into 18 again so would defo think it's still more likely they go for the Ryanair overall! Would be some comedown starting off thinking gold cup and ending in a handicap!
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Jonjo tempted by Plate according to Racingpost (been dropped 5lbs) on 11st 6 as it stands
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Why finish 2nd to Monetaire in a handicap when you have a knocking chance in the Ryanair - no brainer
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delsie777 - will Monetaire get in ? 55 on the list.
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He would be virtually top weight as Johns Spirit won't run off 11st 12 so the weights go up 5 giving TDS 11st 11. Tough ask giving best part of a stone away but he is classy and I think JJ is seriously leaning towards handicap. He may feel he can't beat Johns Spirit off levels - who knows.
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Running at a lower level probably means he'll be able to show some form. Phuck knows how books can have him as favourite. Mug bet imo.
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haylingbilly
delsie777 - will Monetaire get in ? 55 on the list Loads and loads of nonners above him - should just about be ok. They'll be gutted if it doesn't make it - probably didn't see 10-4 coming. What a chance if he scrapes in! |
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I just don't understand the love for this horse, based on this season's form anyway...
Re - there would need to be loads of nonners for Monetaire to get a run but this race of all the handicaps does traditionally cut up... |
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The handicapper may not rate him but I doubt connections are giving serious consideration to running off top weight in a Festival handicap. The horse hasn't been right all season but is a proven graded performer and a dual grade 1 race winner. If he runs at all it will be in the Ryanair, in headgear of some kind and possibly sporting a tongue tie to help his breathing.
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Yeah I tend to agree that he will almost certainly run in the Ryanair! His run in at weatherby not to bad running on 2nd and since its came to light it was a shorter trip than it should have been that day reads not to bad! And also last time out thought he ran well enough and take in the fact that dynaste hidden cyclone and more than likely champagne fever all missing this race out now I think connections would be mad to not try take advantage of these things going in his favour!
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Ryanair bound according to Jonjo on RUK
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Well, well, well... what a turn up. So no more juicy prices to hoover up.
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Back to 19 again. Let's hope Jonjo is not playing yo yo with this horses target.
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Has to go for the handicap. It's an absolute no brainer off that mark.
He can come back again next year for the Ryanair as a two time winner at the festival. |
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Just read he has been taken out the handicap so would seem certain he runs in the Ryanair now :)
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Does this mean i have to back him again??
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No sense.
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Noel Fehily jocked up. McCoy on uxizandre.
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Strange, but i guess AP has to show loyalty in his final season. Any other season he would had been allowed to switch.
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Fehily has got some top rides this cheltenham, which he thoroughly deserves.
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Fantastic news - my confidence is further enhanced. Noel will be a great fit for TDS. Loving his chance
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don't think it is strange tbh, it's not like both horses scream massive chance on form. Probably a flick of the coin.
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Was gonna say Sint.........why is it strange to pick TDS over Uxizandre??
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It's not like one has been so much better than the other,both are capable of a lot better than they have shown this season,but no way of knowing which if any will produce their form.
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sint isn't a TDS fan, budd - thinks he's a mug bet. I still really like him = particularly with Feily up.
That's TDS - not sint! |
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I'm not a fan either to be honest,he don't jun
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Oops, was gonna say,he don't jump well enough imo,got away with it in the JLT last year just about,but at the top,level not for me.
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Has jumped perfectly in the past, hopefully a healthy horse will do better next week.
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Really?? I think he's an average jumper myself.
Put it this way, if I backed him I would be thinking about his jumping all the way round. He don't fall I admit,but it's pretty clumsy at times. |
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Delsie, you were clearly not around last season as TDS was one of my bets of the week, posted on several threads and the NH thread in the other section. All there for your perusal if you like.
There is NO REASON to back him this season though. He is a mugs bet, IMO. |
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The owner has been on record and said his bloods have not been right. At least wait until he shows some kind of form surely? No idea why people want to back him tbh.
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Sorry Dels
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I guess people might be thinking the yard couldn't buy a winner from September till january Sint and had a 30% SR last month and 1 winner from 5 for March, Coupled with TDS Cheltenham form since going chasing reads 121(Beaten under a length after a last fence stumble) it's not the biggest shock that people might think his form will improve with a return to Cheltenham and a yard back amongst the winners.
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That's ok sint - thick skin. You could be right, it maybe a mugs bet but I do fancy him to do an Albertas and suddenly come back to form. Unlike you, I have never liked the horse particularly and have generally opposed him, but this year I just feel it stinks of a jonjo job. Campaigned under a variety of conditions that haven't suited and seemingly completely gone at the game - that was when I first noticed him for this. That and a good friend of mine who only has 3 or 4 bets a year having his conkers on for this race after visiting the yard in February. That and the fact that Johns Spirits owners were keen to find an alternative target. You are probably spot on and he will bomb - but if he does give his running, he has a hell of a chance - imo!
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Did they mention the virus they had through the season to your friend Delsie ?
From what I heard they couldn't even gallop the horses without them bursting for four months. Only came right after Christmas so is a danger some won't be 100% till April. |
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Yes - apparently most of them are well now, but fitness is an issue with some. TDS was never sick as such but was clearly not 100% right. They have been aiming him at this for some time and he's been training with the horses they've been laying out for the handicaps. I think they spent so much time trying to isolate some of the horses that it just made things worse for a while. The ones they run at the festival will all be fit and well. The ones that are not spot on will wait. The one that's interesting is shutthefrontdoor - still in the 1st day handicap but were told he wouldn't be ready.
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Good stuff, Just making sure you was aware of what's going on but you have a good grasp of events.
If Matorico turns up don't ignore him but expect he'll be in the Aintree squad. Best of luck for next week. |
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Same to you gut - all the best.
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Ah lads i wanna read negative stuff not good stuff about the horse! I'll be suckered in again!
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It would be nice to see him run well again, but not at the expensive of Ma Filleule
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