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UDS is definitely the real deal and don't think that is a debate now after this demolition job.
I did think that Gilgamboa stayed on quite nicely having made that mistake and almost caught Clarcam on the run in. He will be a worthy contender in the JLT over 2 and a half miles. |
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timeform revised figure is 167p according to the ratings update, the handicapper said the time figure could have been a fair bit higher considering that it was 10 seconds quicker than the hanicap before hand. They considered going 170+ with a p. Awesome performance
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This year the big story came in the Irish Arkle. All three runners played their part in creating a race that produced what can be taken as one of the best novice performances in recent years. Un de Sceaux did his usual in going off in front, but crucially Clarcam (a 12-length winner of a Grade 1 last time) and Gilgamboa (won a Grade 2 by 24 lengths) tried to match him. That they couldn’t is arguably the best indicator yet of just what we’re dealing with in Un de Sceaux, who's been surprisingly hard to pin down for a horse that races with his heart on his sleeve.
Un de Sceaux is now rated 168p, which is exactly the same as his hurdles figure from last year. To see him jump you’d have no doubt that he’s already as able over fences as he was over hurdles. What’s even more impressive is that his figure requires no elaboration: even with the other two slightly below form, he has run to 168 without coming under anything like full pressure. Clarcam (146) and Gilgamboa (152+) may yet turn up in good novices this spring but it’s nigh-on impossible to see them beating Un de Sceaux on this evidence. |
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To rate the performance on clarcam alone is a tad on the iffy side imo, it all depends on how much you evaluate the form of his last time out win in that grade one. Had Vautour under performed? Has Clarcam improved?
Gilgamboa was exposed to be the 2.5miler that he is. Not taking anything away from the performance, it was truly breathtaking and by beating them two horses he has beat approx 50% of his true opponents in the market currently however he aint no 2s on poke yet, the market is about right now. |
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I ain't a uds fan sts but the clock doesn't lie,Vautour beat Clarcam as easy 1st time out and as everyone on here knows I have backed Vautour,but you couldn't fail to be impressed with uds
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I cant remember how Clarcam finished the race behind Vautour,but I know how he finished the race behind UDS.......completely legless......in a 2m race!!
When I was watching the race I thought to myself,he aint very far in front this time,better animals hes facing? well yes they were,but reason he werent so far ahead was probably a combination of Walsh managing to control him better and the others going quicker than they wanted. Certainly for Clarcam to finish in such a state suggests he went too quick anyway. So now every race hes in over 2m,what the heck are the other riders gonna be thinking?? More I think about it the more I think I may not have seen a horse like it...........ever!!! |
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I just pray Sprinter Sacre can improve a ton and win the Champion Chase. I'd near die with excitement if we could have Sprinter of old vs Un De Sceaux.
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The stuff that dreams are made of my friend.
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"More I think about it the more I think I may not have seen a horse like it...........ever!!!"
If you meant a chaser its a long way till he achieves SS figures.. With the exceptional high standard of horses running presently I think we're forgetting who the true machine is. His chasing career was delayed for 1 year as his connections wanted to have a horse for the Champion Hurdle but I think we'll put UDS and other current impressive chasers in perpsective once `the machine` changes the code of racing next season. |
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I mean in the way he runs from the front getting good horses out their comfort zone,and his ability to go the speed he does from start to finish.
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I mean in the way he runs from the front getting good horses out their comfort zone,and his ability to go the speed he does from start to finish.
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I do need to ask fellow forumites this question, its burning me head. From just before the last Ruby starts to ride him out to see how far he can beat them two by, but 100 yds from the line his stride shortens. Was i seeing things? Need to watch again, for a 4th time. lol
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looked to me like he was in 2nd gear, and the other 2 were in 4th the whole way. as soon as he went into 3rd it was race over....
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Yep,looked like that to me as well,plenty left I thought.
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Seeing things clearly
 though Ruby does nudge him after the last, think my worry wouldn't just be the obstacles, but the track also. I just wonder if the undulations the way he races might find him out as he does only have one way of racing. When a horse hits the wall it dont matter how good they are, they will stop running. Just hope and pray that he can allow himself to switch off enough to be able to get that final climb what found out CF last year and before anyone says i am not comparing the two. |
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After having backed him and planning on having committed to having more on him weekly until the last of any 4/5 goes i wonder if i am being guilty of trying to see dangers that arent there. I do expect him to go very short after the 17th however as Sprinter did before his Arkle as think the race will go from 45 entries to about 12. It will be then i think i probably will lay off about half of what i've staked. I will be the first to admit being a gutless
bettor of horses haha, but then you already new that |
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SEATHESTARS....NO1 26 Jan 15 21:09 Joined: 04 Oct 09 | Topic/replies: 3,146 | Blogger: SEATHESTARS....NO1's blog
I do need to ask fellow forumites this question, its burning me head. From just before the last Ruby starts to ride him out to see how far he can beat them two by, but 100 yds from the line his stride shortens. Was i seeing things? Need to watch again, for a 4th time. lol Ruby let him an inch of rein after the second last and probably gave him a squeeze as he left Clarcam for dead. He's still at full stride across the line and took a long way to pull up. Even Tom Segal agrees. From tomorrows RP Arkle selection "You would think he would have got tired on the run in at Leopardstown, which is a much stiffer track than many people think, but he was travelling as strongly at the line as he was at the start and barring accident he is going to win the Arkle" Mullins also said of UDS, he's a bit stronger this year, but is not down to his ideal racing weight yet so there is more to come. |
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Nah,don't think so mate.Hes stayed ok over 4 furlongs extra on soft ground. Should be fine. To be honest I ain't even thought about that at all,not a worry as far as I'm concerned.
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See Mullins said today that better ground won't be a problem for him.
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Quite a few of us have thought he'd be better for better ground, he's so quick on his feet and he has a low stride he'd prefer better ground you'd imagine. But as they say the best go on anything. I don't think anyone is really saying he needs soft.
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Ruby let him an inch of rein after the second last and probably gave him a squeeze as he left Clarcam for dead. He's still at full stride across the line and took a long way to pull up.
like I said 2nd gear  if he,d gone round in 3rd, god only knows........  |
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Ruby Walsh said afterwards that the most surprising aspect of the race for him was that the others were able to lie up as close to him as they did.
Which means, we may be thinking they are not good rivals as they were dismissed so easily. But there lies the value, they probably are among the top 5 or 6 novices at 2m-2m4f in training. |
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I honestly think people should be clear that Clarcam (getting 10lb) and Gilgamboa are two very good novice chasers. That performance was sensational.
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Firstly, I was blown away by that performance. I've got a decent amount on Vautour for the arkle and I have no qualms whatsoever about him going to the JLT now.
I didn't think he found that much when Ruby pushed him along which could mean he won't bound up the hill, but will probably be so far ahead by then that it won't matter |