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Do you think Sprinter Sacre will comeback to what he was?

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By:
wellchief
When: 29 Dec 14 18:15
Anyone got any links for today?

I'm one of the unlucky ones back in work this week so missed it Cry
By:
giggsy3444
When: 31 Dec 14 12:22
Well there's the start of it! Horses pulling out of the Ascot race because Sprinter Sacre is making his comeback in it. Good to see the fear factor back.
By:
Joist
When: 31 Dec 14 19:25
SS schooling video here: http://www.racinguk.com/news/article/32222/sacre-back-to-school-at-newbury

I had a really vivid dream last night that Sprinter came back to himself, went off I think 7/4 for the Champion Chase, and broke a blood vessel. I cried! Means chuff all, but thought it an interesting tidbit Laugh

To my untrained eye, I thought he looked great in that gallop and think that he'll come back. Based on not much more than just feeling after seeing that video.
By:
CVByrne
When: 31 Dec 14 19:39
If Sprinter comes back a stone less than he was he will win another Champion Chase. Denman came back to run a career equaling best 182 in winning his second Hennessy. Sprinter is still young enough to come back to a high level of form, he is aided by the fact the 2 mile division is very poor bar Sire De Grugy and even his Champ Chase form isn't that strong given who he beat.

tbh I'll probably take a punt on Sprinter for Champ Chase if/when I see him line up at Ascot. Hendo just seems to have lost his bottle, Nicholls was more than happy to  Run Denman at a track he hated at Kempton as he needed to get him fit, defeat or not for Cheltenham.

So we may confuse some of Hendersons fear of seeing his horse beat, for his horse being not the same as he was. Whatever he does at Ascot (as long as he wins) he will improve I'd say, if I see zest in the jumping and travelling down the back then I'd be happy he's still close to where he was. He probably might tire a tad at the end.

I'd really love to see him come back. We've been robbed of a horse I felt would step up in trip last season had all been A-Ok.
By:
wellchief
When: 01 Jan 15 15:47
Thanks for the link Joist
By:
quantize
When: 01 Jan 15 18:45
11/4 NRNB with Betfair at the moment (Sportsbook). Max refund £100.
By:
Orsoncart
When: 01 Jan 15 18:54
A very fair price thanks quantize
By:
wellchief
When: 01 Jan 15 18:58
Cracking bet imo.
By:
Sprinter7
When: 02 Jan 15 13:32
I've played and taken 11/4 as Barry Gerraghty was so enthusiastic he is back to his best took the hint.Hopefully he will win well at ascot and can then either let it run or lay off stake. Just hoping he is back
By:
Rathgorman82
When: 02 Jan 15 13:44
The Henderson camp were bullish about Bobs on Sunday and all paddock judges said he looked great but he still ran like a drain.

I'd love him to come back to his best, but I just have this doubt that wont go away about Henderson's capabilities with injuries/longevity of career compared to PFN.

Still, the NRNB looks tempting as if he bombs at Ascot, he'd be long odds on running in the QM.
By:
Howdi
When: 02 Jan 15 14:08
Brilliant point about longevity Nicholls certainly seems to have the magic touch, compared to Hendo.
By:
wellchief
When: 02 Jan 15 14:54
You think of Henderson's team a few years ago - Sprinter, Simonsig, Bobs Worth, Riverside Theatre, Finians Rainbow, Long Run, Darlan, Binocular.  An embrassment of riches, but not a shadow of that.

The way Nicholls has come back after the retirements of his stars like Kauto, Denman, Master Minded and Big Bucks is fantastic.
By:
sixtwosix
When: 02 Jan 15 20:48
Nope , let's see if he even runs on the 10th first. No run in over a year , is not a good sign.
By:
CVByrne
When: 03 Jan 15 10:07
Henderson has had only 4 chase winners in the past 6 months they just said on the morning line today!!!! Shocked
By:
giggsy3444
When: 06 Jan 15 09:19
Have just watche Sprinter Sacres and Sire De Grugys Champion Chase wins and in my estimation SDGs was run about 7 seconds quicker. It was run at a far quicker pace but he did win it very impressively. Now I've always been a massive SS fan (backed him at 8/1 for the Arkle and it paid for my whole Cheltenham that year and I'm on him at 4/1 to win this years) but if SDG comes back 2 his best then maybe it won't be as straight forward as we all think and hope.
By:
TheCollector
When: 06 Jan 15 09:21
I can't get on with Betfair SportsbookCry Maximum £2.33Laugh
By:
TheCollector
When: 06 Jan 15 09:22
CVByrne 03 Jan 15 11:07 Joined: 14 Mar 06 | Topic/replies: 4,318 | Blogger: CVByrne's blog
Henderson has had only 4 chase winners in the past 6 months they just said on the morning line today!!!! Shocked
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By:
shockster
When: 06 Jan 15 09:36
A bit off the Thread but Jonjo and AP McCoy have not combined for a winner since Goodwood Mirage at Wetherby on 15th October and O'Neil not had any winner since November. Now that's amazing.
By:
festivalfanatic
When: 06 Jan 15 09:51
It would be great to see both SS and SDG contest the Champion. I won't be betting in the race but it would add significantly to the spectacle. This is one of my favourite heats and I felt a bit cheated somehow last year.
By:
TheCollector
When: 06 Jan 15 10:46
Think both of them will be NRs.
By:
daveygfc
When: 08 Jan 15 19:32
Henderson in tomorrow's RP talking about skipping next weeks race?

@jamesaknight: RP headline: 'Henderson voices rain fears over Sprinter's return'. Another racecourse gallop, perhaps, and then #straighttocheltenham ?

Or could he face Sire de Grugy at Newbury?
By:
CVByrne
When: 08 Jan 15 19:33
He said if it was very soft Sprinter wouldn't run, but he has the Game Spirit as back up if that happens.
By:
giggsy3444
When: 08 Jan 15 20:02
Henderson said if it's good/soft he runs. Any worse and he'll send him 2 Newbury (Game Spirit).
By:
TheCollector
When: 08 Jan 15 22:54
If he misses this and goes to Chelts with one prep run he'll bounce up n down the run in. Henderson in shock **** himself again drama part 783756. The man who can't find races for any horses it seems. Horse was "absolutely flying" week before Tingle Creek so why did he not run there??
By:
TheCollector
When: 08 Jan 15 22:55
Although to be fair this is a horse of a lifetime!
By:
Howdi
When: 09 Jan 15 00:30
oh christ here we go again the longest drama in history this Cry
By:
Ekbalco
When: 09 Jan 15 13:36
The inside word was that the horse had completely gone - from being the 2nd best work horse at home to the worst -  barely able to get past anything - he's apparently working much better but not back to where he was at home.

They're hoping the racecourse will give him that extra kick.
By:
Howdi
When: 09 Jan 15 15:29
^^^ where you heard this mate?
By:
Ekbalco
When: 09 Jan 15 15:50
Inside word howders.

I can say no more.
By:
wellchief
When: 09 Jan 15 15:52
My eyes saw something different when he breezed past Tanks for That.
By:
giggsy3444
When: 09 Jan 15 16:26
EKBALCO I smell a big pile of bullshit! No offence!
By:
Ekbalco
When: 09 Jan 15 16:44
When was that please wellers?
By:
Ekbalco
When: 09 Jan 15 16:44
None taken giggers - free speech and all that.Scared
By:
SEATHESTARS....NO1
When: 09 Jan 15 16:47
Think wellchief is referring to the racecourse gallop at Newbury weekend before last
By:
Sprinter7
When: 10 Jan 15 09:55
Exbalco's post explains why he previously drifted out to 4s with no takers.  He seemed to be back ok in the Newbury gallop but you cannot be sure as we don't know how well tanks is going. It will be interesting if he actually runs at Ascot as it is likely to be soft going. I think my speculative bet made more in hope than anything else is not looking so good
By:
Howdi
When: 11 Jan 15 15:51
Ekbalco • January 9, 2015 4:50 PM GMT
Inside word howders.

I can say no more.Grin
By:
grocerjack
When: 11 Jan 15 18:33
Sprinter7.your money well placed from what I'm hearing.
By:
Sprinter7
When: 11 Jan 15 20:06
Excellent news thanks grocerjack. Let's hope SS shows he is back big style on Saturday
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 11 Jan 15 20:40
Interesting article by Andrew Longmore in Sunday Times (print version) today, included the following passage:

"He just wasn't the Sprinter Sacre we knew." says Henderson. "His work just was n't up to standard."

Not,at least, up to the high standards that Sacre had set during his two years of dimination. Though 95% of Sprinter Sacre could comfortably dispose of most of the two - mile chasers in the land, Henderson would not compromise on the remaining 5%." We just had to sit still and wait." Henderson says. "It's like saying: 'I'm going to make that daffodil flower tomorrow'.You can't do it, you can't force it. You've got to be patient and we were and, gradually, the shoots of recovery began to appear and things started going the right way." 


After the racecourse gallop at Newbury, Henderson said something along the lines of, that they would n't have taken him there unless they were pretty confident about what they were going to see. He is also probably the most risk averse trainer out there.

I hope, and think, that he will go to Ascot and win well - the game could do with a shot in the arm just now and it would be great if he could provide it.
By:
festivalfanatic
When: 12 Jan 15 10:17
If the weather forecast for this week is correct, I don't think we'll be seeing him at Ascot on Saturday.
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