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They ran him in both races last year Catch me.
And would have won both had he not missed the last in the Xmas race...imo Although they may have a rethink on that of course. |
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ruin isn't the word i'd use catch me...this weekend we have a good match with the young horse getting 8lbs off the new one and who wants to see faugheen at 4-9 on boxing day? i want to see him tested and irving isn't what i would call a test would you? the new one on the other hand would be a great race and why not?
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I think Catch Me meant to write run not ruin. And I also think he meant it'll be too much to run in both races after the extra race at haydock. Am I right CCM?
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 ah i see thought it was a strange one...in answer to first question - well i suppose you could say that both are good prizes but i do see what you mean personally i think he is in for a hard race saturday so tend to agree but if he wins easily again i think they will go |
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Ah, that's a good point SP, I forgot he ran at Haydock.
Think it likely he wont be running 3 races in fairly quick succession.Especially if Xmas looks like being a tough one. |
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Spot on SP. That's exactly what I meant... Sorry that wasn't clear lads.
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The New Ones jumping is getting better, as NTD said the other day he expects Faugheen to be in front at the last in the Champion Hurdle and then it's whether The New One or Jezki can tap him for toe coming up the hill
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NTD doesnt appear to be aware that Faugheen won a 2 mile race at Punchestown and that he slaughtered about six horses who were not that far behind in Vautours race in Cheltenham. In truth TNO is the horse which needs further and should have gone chasing last season.
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^^^ he beat them about the same distance except sgt reckless who he beat a bit further, but he ran at Aintree and it may have been 1 race too much
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Be very wary of using end of season form for the following seasons festival. As for. TNO going chasing this season......do you really think a horse that's virtually guaranteed to be 1st,2nd or 3rd in the CHurdle should be chasing? Especially one that has the best 2 mile form over hurdles along with Jezki. He has a serious chance of winning the race this season and talk of chasing is imo complete nonsense.
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Agree with Budd. Also, i was very critical last season of TNO and STD.. but this season he seems to be really getting to grips with how to deliver these horses at the business end of the race, and TNO's jumping has been spot on which leads me to think that he may well be able to tail Faugheen and get him on the hill.. and no-one knows how F will react when put under that kind of pressure..
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I really hope the new one skips Kempton as when he beats faugheeen he,s really going to shorten, and I want big green opening day of the festival
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The new one has jumped better because it has being going at its own pace against inferior horses,as soon as it faces a decent horse,it will start demolishing them again !
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Maybe, maybe not. Talking of jumping...I don't think Faugheen is any better than TNO on that subject.
TNO wont run again at Kempton surely, 3 runs is enough before the new year I would have thought. |
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Nor jezki,they should have the bumper after the champion hurdle,save the groundstaff some work !
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If faugheen makes the same mistakes as he did in the neptune going at CH pace he won't be in the lead at the last as it will cost him twice the amount of ground each time.
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Willie Mullins expects "huge improvement" from Faugheen in the williamhill.com Christmas Hurdle at Kempton.
A stunning winner at Cheltenham and Punchestown in the spring as a novice, the six-year-old leapt to the head of ante-post lists for next year's Champion Hurdle with a brilliant return to action in the Coral Hurdle at Ascot last month. He will return to Grade One level on December 26 and Ireland's champion trainer believes his charge will strip much fitter with a comeback run under his belt. Mullins said: "There must be huge improvement in Faugheen as he was pretty fat going to Ascot. "Last season Faugheen was fit and scrawny and I was wondering where the improvement was coming from, but he must have come back in from grass 100 weight heavier." |
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“I’m not sure I agree with those prices,” he says, in reference to the Champion Hurdle market (Faugheen 2/1, Hurricane Fly 14/1). “Let’s just say I don’t think Hurricane Fly would’ve had any trouble beating the horses that Faugheen has beaten.”
Yet it’s hard to dampen enthusiasm for a horse like Faugheen. You can say he was an average point to pointer, you can say he was run over longer distances as a novice to avoid the ‘apple of my eye’ (Vautour – ‘he still is, he’s an oil painting of a horse to look at’) and you can say he hasn’t got the pedigree of a Champion Hurdler. But you can’t argue with a seven from seven record, achieved in the style of a potential National Hunt great. And, despite his best efforts, Mullins can’t hide his excitement either. “I was really worried about him going over to Ascot, could he win with his size? Ruby said he’d never sat on a horse as fat in a race like that before. So if he can do that with that sort of condition on him there must be loads of room for improvement for the rest of the season.” Talk of The New One, though, sparks a strange reaction from Mullins. “I didn’t see the (The New One’s) race,” he says, doing his best Arsene Wenger impression. “I hate looking at reruns. I didn’t look at it. I might sometime. There will be time enough to find out all that when we meet at Cheltenham. If we meet before, well, it looks unlikely.” Don't miss out on reruns, sign up for our free video replays! Unlikely, maybe. But what if The New One does turn up at Kempton, Willie? “We’re going to Kempton, whoever arrives there we have to take on. It won’t stop us, that’s our plan and we’re happy with that.” Over to you, Nigel. You said you weren’t scared… But, enough of that. Let’s say The New One stays in his box as planned. Who then will be the toughest opponent Faugheen has to face on December 26? Mullins nominates Paul Nicholls’ Fighting Fifth winner Irving. “We’re going to Irving’s home ground,” Mullins says. “A flat, right-handed track will suit him, but Faugheen’s in good order and he’s going to have to pass that test.” |
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Great point made by Robbie McNamara on a podcast I was listening to earlier. Regarding a point that was discussed early on in this thread about Faugheen being run over 3 miles and the last Champion Hurdle winner that won over 3 miles previously. Willie's 3 novices last season were Vautour, Faugheen and Briar Hill that of course were to be separated between the 2m Supreme, 2m5f Neptune and 3m Albert Bartlett. Looking back on it now, Vautour was always aimed at the Supreme but looks now as though he had a problem seperating Faugheen and Briar Hill. Briar Hill had obviously won the 2m Champion Bumper and had consistently been run over 2m4f over hurdles in Ireland. Faugheen had of course won his bumper impressively over 2m in Ireland and won over 2m4f, 2m6f and 3m before a decision was made regarding Cheltenham targets. When put like that, the 3m win at Limerick is nothing significant.
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When the tapes go up on Tuesday 10th March 2015 - what price will he go off at? Champion in waiting!
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Already a general price of 6-4
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Can't see him being odds on unless he goes for the Irish Champion and thrashes HF and Jezki.
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Looking rather weak in the market this morning
 last price matched 2.9  Could be a good job i've laid off half my stake |
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Perhaps people finally realising he's yet to beat a decent 2m hurdler?
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Maybe, just been suggested to me that hes been trading too short for ages and hes just getting out to the right price for betfair now.
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Should be odds on - its different gear, forget about TNO getting stopped last year it got completely out paced - it wont get near a sniff of Faugheen !
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worryingly weak in the market today
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in fact the past 2 days he has been weak
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very weak indeed...tno cut across the board.
i remember vautour being very weak prior to supreme so not too worried yet |
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Let it drift it - should be odds on !
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Straight to Cheltenham Ricci just said. Unsurprising really.
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I thought theyd have had a prep run somewhere tbh
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hate stats but just 1 winner since 1993 had not run in same calendar year
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Yep, very much not delighted with this. Only ROR I think didn't run that year!! This is the issue with WPM having so many top class horses - their preps are getting more and more compromised
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i hope fitness wise he turns up better than ascot.. shame they don't run him in the irish ch it would boost their racing alot seeing faugheen and fly taking on each other on home soil for the first time..
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he has been very weak on here tory for a few weeks, maybe he isn't pleasing them...not ideal though if your on
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I'm on and I'm on quite heavy - in lots of winning doubles prior to his Boxing Day saunter. Know this sounds stupid but I've been a massive fan since his bumper win and he won me a packet in the neptune so he owes me nothing, I just want him to get there with the best possible chance and the best possible preparation. This is not it
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Regarding his weakness, I'd imagine a decent amount of that has been people laying off their AP bets and reinvesting with the NRNB. You do lose some of the value but at least you won't lose if he doesn't turn up. I thought about it but haven't done it yet
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Rich Ricci on Faugheen
Speaking on At The Races, Rich Ricci said: "I'm not sure he'll run again before Cheltenham. I don't think he needs to. He's still got a bit of condition on him and he'll improve from the run at Kempton." surely if he has condition on him, a run would be beneficial? |