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think that only happens if they aint convinced he stays.Next race is important.
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What do people make of Hidden Cyclone? Strange lack of discussion given his obvious talent, personally think he's really exciting. Shark has always had him as a Gold Cup beast and we've yet to see the best of him since he wants better ground and a trip but has still been disposing of very useful rivals, readily dispatching Call The Police yesterday with conditions against him.
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Think he's a sleeping giant,Shark has been very careful with his handling of the horse,Really wanted to see him in the Hennessy but guess they wanted to keep him at home and slowly bring him to the boil....Is he Durkan or Lexus bound ?
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Lexus, Shark said he was only entered in the John Durkan incase of a mishap in plans. Will be fascinating to see how he gets on there against the likes of Sir Des Champs and Flementar. Hidden Cyclone was just over a length behind Sir Des Champs last year, and while obviously both will have improved, I don't really understand the discrepancy in their prices.
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Thanks,Think the 3 miles is just what he needs,
I have him as a major player for all the top races on both sides of the pond currently, I can understand why he is much bigger than SDC for the GC as 1 has won at the last 2 festival's whereas the other has yet to show he can travel over and run to a similar level which is always a concern for me,Course and festival form stands for a lot, Good luck and hopefully we'll see him strut his stuff at Prestbury Park next March. |
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How you know Hidden Cyclone wants better ground? Form looks the same on both types of ground to me.
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Yeah good point about the Cheltenham form. We know he has no problem with going left handed or with undulations but while Cheltenham is unique you'd be disappointed if that was his undoing. At 20 points bigger than SDC I have him as a cracking bet and will continue topping up.
You too, lets hope we're bumping this in March with glasses of Moet apiece  |
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GCW, fairly sure I read it somewhere. I know that sounds spurious! But in his reappearance the ground was cited as a reason that might play against him, ergo better ground seems optimal. Plus his trainer said before yesterday taht he simply "handles heavy ground" rather than requires it.
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Nicholls said: "I will talk to Ruby and John and see the handicapper's reaction but yesterday's win will rule handicaps out, so in an ideal world the King George is the obvious race to go for.
"He's got to be a strong contender. He has progressive form and he stayed on strongly yesterday. Kauto achieved no more than he did when he won the Old Roan before he went on to win the King George that year and arguably Al Ferof probably achieved more. Until he really gets the trip you can never be sure he will stay. "The way he stayed on with that weight and ran up the hill you would have to think on a flatter track he probably will stay. "I wouldn't want to be thinking about three and a quarter miles in a Gold Cup this season unless he tells us differently because he still has plenty of toe, but I would have thought Kempton would be perfect for him." Given the above quote you'd have to think that Al ferof is going to have to win the KG or be running on well into a place to have any chance of running in the Gold Cup. |
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Weapons Amnesty back in full training
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I dislike that quote, we want Al Ferof in the Gold Cup
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Backing: Cue Card, Medermit
Laying: Long Run, Synchronised (after last years CGC), Burton Port, The Giant Bolster I expect the winner to be appearing in the Gold Cup for the first time. I am unsure of the Irish challengers though. I usually just oppose them and will probably do so again especially Sir Des Champs who does not look a CGC winner to me Try to get as much on CC as I can at the price before the KG and then hopefully shorten after he runs well enough to be targeted crossing fingers only though |
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Bit of a drift on Hidden Cyclone from 28s roughly to 46
 Any ideas why? Just a reaction to the last couple of weeks, i.e. Silviniaco and Bobs Worth, or something amiss? |
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After the success of Murchu at Fairyhouse yesterday, John 'Shark' Hanlon updated the press on his stable star, Hidden Cyclone.
The County Carlow based handler said: "He's in great form. He came out of Gowran like he never had a race. "He'll go for the Lexus. It looks a good race but he has to take on the best sometime. "I've always said in time that he might be a Gold Cup horse. Maybe he will and maybe he won't – maybe it'll be a year down the road." From this mornin  |
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Cheers BJG. Wasn't the light campaign last year in aid of getting him to Cheltenham this year
 However, if he's to have any chance in a Gold Cup he needs to run very well in the Lexus and if he does so, surely connections couldn't refuse going to Cheltenham, especially if he comes out and wins the Lexus. |
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I think sometimes trainers in looking after horses end up missing the boat in terms of them being competitive at Cheltenham..Joncol anyone
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gold cup is shaping up to be the best race of the festival this year, strength in depth is the best I think I've seen. first 6 in the betting are all exciting horses.
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throw in a few more possibles ,cue card ,al ferof ,for non stop ,and a few others then we have a real race on our hands !
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indeed it is wide open, really exciting... again!
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exactly, first 8 or 9 in the betting will probably be all rated at least in the high 160s, crazy.
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Flemenstar and Sir des Champs both look short to back at 7.6 each on here
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IF and it is indeed a huge IF just imagine the race we could have if the line up was something like this; Bobs Worth, Sir Des Champs, Flemenstar, Long Run, First Lieutenant, Tidal Bay,S Conti, Al Ferof, The Giant Bolster, Cue Card, Last Installment, Hidden Cyclone, Medermit, Burton Port.
Would never happen but could well be one of the most competitive ever! |
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Don't forget Imperial Commander, might be getting and unlikely to win but if fit and well makes it even more inetresting
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getting ON
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imagine that race!! sometimes its almost a shame some bubbles get burst before the big day, would love to see 5/6 unbeaten horses in teh big one.
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