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toms champion hurdle pick!
toms champion hurdle pick!
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I said may,it has been mentioned as an option,and may have a bearing on pricewise selection.
Just saying mate. |
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OK. Grade 2 isn't it.
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I suppose if she gets stuffed by the Fly she will could for the Mares or wait for Aintree or Punchestown. If she runs really well in the Irish Champion her odds will half.
That's the beauty of NRNB, 12/1 NRNB isn't bad at this stage |
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Yep fair point. But then again any horse which gets stuff by HF in Ireland might think twice about March.
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A place in the Champion won't hurt her value as a broodmare. And she's 5 - she might be winning the mares race in 7 years time (unless Quevega is still on the go)
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Zarkandar and Spirit Son all Blue
Oscars Well cut by Ladbrokes NRNB but not by the ante post firms Not sure what to think, If I was Ladbrokes I'd have done the same. If he fancies OW then it makes sense to take 20/1 NRNB over 25/1 AP. Shave 5 points and maybe still be able to lay it |
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If I had the pricewise job I would be putting up Brampour @ 50s
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^^^ thats why you haven't
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Well it's a 25/1 shot according to the RP front page tomorrow.
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What's that Kimbambo?
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where you see that king?
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Looks like Oscars Well is his pick
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Kimbambo
  Just going by the website, there's a headline "Champion Hurdle Pricewise ...(then a bit of text which I can't read)... 25/1" |
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laddies gone 10's
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^ Think your confusing Oscars Well wiht Oscar Whisky
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yeh my mistake!
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100% it is Oscars Well
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100% it is Oscars Well
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how you know stots
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Yep def Oscars Well its all over the front page
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Bluebird Fan, think you were wrong matey.
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Can't get out of the house due to having an operation. Was the pick Oscars Well?
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Yes Tory it was, 1pt e/w.
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Cheers pal.
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oscars well ffs Tom no chance at all coming from a fan of yours.
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howdi can you give your reasoning as to why oscars well got no chance please !
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thrashed in last two performaces form tied in with thousand stars who was unplaced last year means a formline of 5th-6th at best. I am also one of the few who believe he wouldn't have won the neptune last year. Form of that race looking sketchy too.
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IMO this years champion hurdle rests on the fitness of one horse The Fly if he turns up in the same shape he is going to take some stopping.
The only other two I could have are Spirit son (brilliant performance at aintree) and ive been converted to Zarkandar as the triumph form is working out a treat. Grandouet looks an improver but he was beaten fairly convincingly by Zarkandar and Unaccompained last year and it would take some improvement to beat them this year. If I was picking an outsider it would be Thousand stars who I think has improved again but thats a leap of faith to think he can win it. If he ran in it and don't think he would i'd be interested in Al Ferof as I think he's a smashing horse but The Fly looked the best we'd seen in a decade last year. |
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Agree Howdi, neptune form apart from ROR very iffy. OW has never won over 2m also. Shortest victory 18f on Heavy.
No chance IMO. |
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OW chance surely rests on better going.
Keeping scratching my head as to why people think the Neptune form has fallen apart. ROR has improved his rating by over a stone. |
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not vintage though is it sintonian not sure Bino is in love with it anymore from what ive seen.
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question if Big Bucks was entered in the Champion Hurdle where would be in the betting about 3rd fav !
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I want to see one race this year
Aintree 2.5 miles Bucks v The Fly won't happen but i'd travel to see that!! |
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Sintonian it's not better ground OW needs as he's won on soft and heavy it's a longer distance. Quite simple to see really. 2 1/2 mile plus.
I want to see Big Bucks back over fences, but can't blame them for mopping up. |
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Plenty of novoices get stepped back in trip in their second season though dont they Shocksters.
I am only going on what Connections have said anyway. I dont particularly fancy OW. |
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be a crying shame if Big Bucks retired and we didnt know good he was imo.
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old Tom can't go wrong he could tip anything and nick a price and lay back and make himself a few quid
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But yet Tom Segal says in his column he thought the horse was a thorough 2 miler, was going incredibly well at that distance and was still looking likely to trouble the finish before demolishing the last flight! At 25/1, he was way over priced, went under my radar till this morning and have since put that right.
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Absolutely right Howdi. Look the guys good, I don't think anybody doubts that, however clutching at straws with Oscars Well, just picking a price for the sake of it and simply hoping for the best.
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Howdi, I can just see that race, Ruby jumping the last with one leg on each like a circus act
I'm also surprised he's picked Oscars, but I think he'll benefit from better ground and a fast pace. His last run was also a big step up on earlier work this season. Historically, the Neptune works out well for the Champion, whereas the Supreme is a poorer guide. Presumably that's because stamina is important to win the Champion. It's a funny race - the three most fancied horses haven't been seen on a raceourse this season! Is that hype? Expectation? Does it suggest the ones that have run aren't all that good? Several of the next best are likely to run elsewhere (Thousand Stars, Oscar Whisky, Voler la Vadette). I think they'll be a few more twists between now and March 13. |