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casual you are correct that quevega would give bb something to think about as she is that good but it wont happen. im of the opinion that bb would win the gold cup if he turned up but it seems the thinking is to just go back and farm the staying hurdle races.perhaps next year when kauto poss retires p nicholls may consider , who knows
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Why does Quevega need to go down the World Hurdle route though?
She farms the Mares race year after year, so why sacrifice a Cheltenham winner in search of what is likely to be a place in the World Hurdle? She's paid for the holiday for the past 3 years now and the 6/4 I've got about her will pay for this year's as well. With VLV and Unaccompanied out of the race it's going to be nothing more than a routine canter for her. She should be no bigger than 1/3 against the rest of these, and even that is a gift. |
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cannot believe the price she still is. must be just incase Murphy changes his mind AGAIN because if VLV doesn't run then quevega is a steering job. seriously she should be 1/4.
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She'll win 6 or 7 of these Mares hurdles and go down in history - a record no horse will ever break.
8/11, all things considered is still huge value IMO... |
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She'll win 6 or 7 of these Mares hurdles and go down in history - a record no horse will ever break.
8/11, all things considered is still huge value IMO... |
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8/11 wont last, form is way above the weak oppostion thats left to turn up and there wont be many of them either!
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With VLV now likely to go for the world hurdle I honestly believe that Quevega should be shorter than big bucks. She hammered the field last year and looked to have improved if anything else, I agree that there is no way that assuming she lines up she can go off bigger than 1/2. This race looks at her mercy. Remember that MM went 4/11 for the champion chase back in 09' and think that was equally a weak race as this. She could have more than 12-14 pounds on the day to play with.
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You're simply betting on her turning up now
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quevega and BB are virtually the same price on here. but BB looks to have a harder task by far (even though he'll still win). if as expected VLV doesn't run then what you have is a genuine G1 horse running in a G2 race against a bunch of at best G3 mares. point and shoot job.
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agreed giggsy , im seriously wondering if you loce the horse more than me
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love
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Quevega hasn't run for months. That's always a doubt, however good the horse. she also a Mare and they have more off days than geldings. She's won 4 races in a row, Big Buck's 15.
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seasonal debut for the last 2 years has been at cheltenham and ruby didnt have to show her the whip, mullins will have the horse spot on. the point thats being made is that the opposition to quevega and bb is far weaker in the mares race than w hurdle
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if quevega had run this year and won easy it would be 1/3 its 8/11 because we dont no if its ok r not if it turns up on the day it wins easy again
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Bertie - I was commenting on why they are a similar price. Yes, the opposition will be a little weaker in the Mares but not hugely so. Oscar Whisky might trouble Big Bucks, Thousand Stars is a doubtful runner. There's not much else.
I agree quevega has been spot on for her seasonal debut at Cheltenham the last two years, but she's a horse, not a machine. She's a mare as well. Until people see her wellbeing there can always be some doubt which inflates her price. We know Big Bucks is race fit and in form. I won't be opposing either of them and have them both in various multiples. I think they are the two most likley Festival winners. |
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yep pt taken stron, geuss if she def lines up then much shorter on the day but bb will prob stay around the same price, personally i think mullins is a master at peaking horses first time out when he wants to so very happy with the prices i have. quevega makes or breaks my festival at present tho! will be sulking if she doesnt win
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Maybe I am becoming cynical in this straight as an arrow sport, but having backed her earlier this season, I'm just getting a little uneasy that she is not trading at shorter than she is - do those dirty bookie fellows know something we don't?
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There are no certanties in racing but there is Quevega.
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She was about 5/4 this time last year iirc?
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Tom stop sweating and book the holiday.
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I must admit I aint read anywhere VLV goes for the WH. Ladddies still best on Quevega at 8-11. If VLV not going, Q is a 3s on chance
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Voler La Vedette is to head for the Ladbrokes World Hurdle at Cheltenham without another racecourse appearance.
Connections of the eight-year-old mare have decided against giving her a prep run in the Ladbrokes Boyne Hurdle at Navan on Sunday, which she won 12 months ago. Trainer Colm Murphy said: "I've had a chat with the owners and we've decided she won't run at the weekend. She'll go straight to Cheltenham for the World Hurdle. We'll just keep her ticking over now. She seems in great form and I'm very happy with her." He added: "It's more than likely she'll go for the World Hurdle, not the (David Nicholson) Mares' Hurdle." Voler La Vedette has enjoyed a successful campaign so far, winning her first three races of the winter, including the Grade One Hatton's Grace Hurdle, before suffering defeat against Zaidpour in the Galmoy Hurdle at Gowran Park last month. |
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Vlv does go for the World willie - announced a few days ago.
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Ok, ta
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shoot me for banging on about the world hurdle and I am talking out of my pocket (only to the tune of a lost tenner)but yes she is a mare- therefore gets an allowance- she beat mourad last by 1.5 lengths having made a mistake at the last and BB beat him by 4.5 no doubt with a bit in hand- and she goes best fresh. The owners have already had 4 winners at the festival so nothing to lose there by going for the WH with her.
If she goes to the mares race VLV is not a factor as she doesn't act round the course. Think the prices offered now just reflect the fact she has not run this season and the fact Mullins has not publicly said she is 100% and on course for the mares recently. If she turns up on the day the strongest market will be winning distance... |
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Think I know the answer to this anyway, but just looking for reassurances. What are the chances of her going to the WH?
Know Mullins has MDH, Thousand Stars, Zaidpour, So Young and possibly one or two others for that one. |
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100-1
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Whats the verdict? 4/6 that's about now value or wait until the day...
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I think she'll be 2/5 best on the day if VLV goes for the WH as planned
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Take the 4-6 today or 4-9 on the day...
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I was going to wait until the day as dont like doing lump AP bets as so easy to do your dosh, and got over 2.0 last year, but had to have a decent bet for me @ 8/11 with laddies once the VLV news came out and thats why i'm now twitchy.
Can afford to lose so not going to not eat or anything like that but its not ideal. If she's anything like that when NRNB comes in then i'll pile in again. Just hate the idea of getting to the race and already being a few hundred down as she's not in it but guess that's why she is the price she is now |
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Don't rule out VLV just yet, those boys change their mind every week :)
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Just one of the gambles you take with AP betting.
Gamble worth taking though as even if VLV turns up, what will Quevega be - 5/4 max? If she doesnt 2/5 so 8/11 seems ok. |
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If the fly zooms in..you will not be seeing 4/6 quevenga no matter who
she faces at the tapes..imo you should be banging on stan james door with wads of cash now. |
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when is the next forfeit stage for the mares race?
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The entry stage isn't until Feb 28th.
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thanks for that strontium
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badbrokes 8/11 all gone now they've cut it to 4/7.
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yes ashton it is just a stampede to get the cash on...glorious stuff
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Quevega in very good nick - in trainin quite a while, she's fit, mentally well, working really well
Looks really good From Ruby Walsh  Did a snippet of a vid for the irish examiner |