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By:
pmt
When: 08 Jan 12 06:59
recession Proof will have a chance in the Coral Cup especially if the ground is on the soft side.He won the Totesport last year on his 4th start over hurdles after looking likely to win easily but not doing much when hitting the front against seasoned handicappers.He is a 2 miler on the flat and probaly needs closer to 3 miles over hurdles having already won over 2 and a half on heavy at Lingfield.We ran him in the supreme last year when he got outpaced from the top of the hill then finished best of them all only beaten 8 lenghts and would have been much closer over a furlong further.

He will reappear in a handicap in february but has had a tendon problem and should likley get beaten and keep his handicap mark for Cheltenham. if he wins in february he will probably go for the world hurdle but more likely he will still be off 146 or so and go for the Coral where he will be fancied by connections.A strong gallop sitting just off the pace will suit him very well.
By:
Fabulous
When: 08 Jan 12 08:43
STS, that's what I was thinking when I put him up, thought he was going to wait until Cheltenham. I bet him yesterday, but nothing major.

I bet him for The Plate before the race, but I get the feeling that ain't where he'll be going now, and his price didn't change much after the race anyway.
By:
dtamutants
When: 08 Jan 12 22:14
I'm sure that American Trilogy is being prepared for the Byrne Group Plate. He might need to win to get into the race, but he'd be running off just about bottom weight, and I think he'd have a good chance if he has a nice confidence booster first.
By:
roosterboost
When: 09 Jan 12 09:38
coral cup pmt!...u taught him to settle then?
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 09 Jan 12 14:28
Pretty sure the Pipe's are d1cking about with Kazlian to get him in on a decent mark for the Fred Winter.

Think he'll have an educational run down the field somewhere next time out, a) to keep his price down b) to keep his handicap mark down and c) to sort out his jumping a bit more, then WALLOP......
By:
sintonian
When: 09 Jan 12 15:22
Keep an eye on Toner Doudaries for last years Coral Cup winning egg Gordan Elliot. Has a couple of interesting pieces of form this season behind the likes of Steps2Freedon and Unaccompanied. He didn't run too badly lto in 6th, and noticed he was a mover in the ante-post markets for the CC.
By:
sintonian
When: 10 Jan 12 11:10
Kazlian runs in the first at Leicester today Roger ..
By:
stevo1
When: 10 Jan 12 11:29
Barwell Bridge in Pertemps, ran ok last year behind Buena Vista no price quoted yet.
Declared for Warwick this w-end.
By:
sintonian
When: 10 Jan 12 13:35
KAzlian hacked up there today Roger. Not even off the bridle.
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 10 Jan 12 13:44
Yeah

Still time for another run along the lines outlined.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 10 Jan 12 16:20
Reizovic is the one I have been watching very closely. Not sure what race they will aim him at, but he's got a big one in him imo.
By:
Lad On Tour
When: 10 Jan 12 17:33
I liked the look of Kazlian myself to complete the bonus by winning the imperial cup and the the Fred Winter!! Get Me Out Of Here... CORAL cup who else knows??
By:
onehundredandeighty
When: 14 Jan 12 07:38
Todays 14.30 at Warwick may well provide a few more clues
By:
noflapleft
When: 15 Jan 12 10:07
tidal bay
By:
onehundredandeighty
When: 29 Jan 12 09:09
6 Weeks and counting guys,come on,dont go keeping them all to yourselves
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 10 Feb 12 13:27
ttt

AS extra info for the forum plunge Mischief
By:
sintonian
When: 10 Feb 12 13:58
Tango De Juilley added
By:
onehundredandeighty
When: 21 Feb 12 19:52
Approaching last orders folks,lets have some more please
By:
Monsieur Bond
When: 21 Feb 12 20:52
Sailors Warn in the County?
By:
ShannonSpray
When: 21 Feb 12 23:01
Reizovic is either very lazy and untalented or a plot horse. Having said that, while watching his race at Leopardstown over Christmas, I had the feeling that none of the jockeys actually wanted to win. Has this happened before?
By:
Bobby Dazzler
When: 23 Feb 12 18:00
Alfie Sherrin
By:
alexmillwall
When: 23 Feb 12 18:56
was looking at that one today bobby... jumps very nicely
By:
pun run
When: 23 Feb 12 20:39
eastlake, but where he runs i don't know..
By:
onehundredandeighty
When: 11 Mar 12 09:26
Whats this thing of Nicholls' that they have apparantly kept in its stable to protect its handicap mark? Uck somat or other
By:
Andymca
When: 11 Mar 12 09:47
Ulck Du Lin
By:
onehundredandeighty
When: 11 Mar 12 10:05
Thats the fella,cheers Andy
By:
Albion Dan
When: 17 Mar 12 01:43
Albion Dan
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Bellvano's run the other day STUNK of plot.

#justsaying
By:
Albion Dan
When: 17 Mar 12 01:43
Albion Dan
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Bellvano's run the other day STUNK of plot.

#justsaying
By:
Masterminded
When: 17 Mar 12 01:50
Masterminded 16 Nov 11 16:36
Bellvano & also have a feeling Aigle Dor may win a nice pot when he comes out
Beat you to it Dan ;)
By:
zilzal1
When: 17 Mar 12 10:35
A few good winners here

Bellvano, Alfie Sherrin, Salut Flo, Teaforthree


WD
By:
gravy
When: 17 Mar 12 12:10
Festival over and another great week of winners and great runs for money.
Having scoured this forum for months leading up to the week, it's been some effort from the folk on here.
Any mug could have spotted Sprinter as a star, or that Long Run was not the same horse as last year.
But to those who, among a long list of nuggets on this and other threads, spotted that...
The Package was a great ew shout coming back in the JLT before the gamble started.
That Simonsig was a superstar before he even stepped into Seven Barrows.
Salut Flo was being plotted us for the Plate when he was 20-1.
Divers the same at the identical price.
GMOOH would be going Coral Cup at a new ew price at that point.
That Alderwood's prep 'effort' was worth a second glance ahead of the Festival.
That Bellvano's plan was the Grand Annual and was being plotted up as such.
You could go on and with other superb little pieces of information throughout the winter for all of the races which could only have helped.
For those, for whatever reason, who cannot see the racing day-in and day-out and can't keep on top of every single thing, it's priceless.
For every simpleton who goes onto the forum and talks junk, there are two with genuine views and great advice.
I'm sure plenty of people had their coffers boosted with some of the clues.
Well done. Keep it up for 2013.
By:
onehundredandeighty
When: 17 Mar 12 14:37
Echo that Gravy and well done and thanks for all contributions to everyone
By:
CleverName
When: 19 Mar 12 00:15
Albion Dan
16 Nov 11 18:29 Joined: 08 Apr 06 | Topic/replies: 685 | Blogger: Albion Dan's blog
Bellvano's run the other day STUNK of plot.
You knew,WD Cool
By:
Sergei_Rebrofl
When: 19 Mar 12 15:16
As a (relative) newbie to horse racing, how does one successfully identify a plot horse?
By:
Gibberish
When: 20 Mar 12 00:21
Gravy - well said sir!

Some excellent suggestions on here, and I for one think it's hard enough for 'one of us' to pinpoint a target nowadays with the addition of many other handicaps, and to even get a run, and beat the on the day best prices is a big achievement!

Maybe I'm gonna have to alter my betting strategies in the future after reading this really informative thread.

I've always had an aversion for Jonjo's nags (which is idiotic as they bolt in at decent odds when the money's down) and constantly have me flapping!

As I mentioned on another thread...I noticed Alderwood's 'effort' on the day, even without a bet in the race, and I forgot about it Cry

I mentioned Bellvano on another, and as someone told me he was missing Cheltenham for Aintree (and I subsequently heard something similar too) I was surprised to see him make the line up - he reminded me very much of Andreas who bolted up in the same race a few years ago for me at 20/1, though as everyone knows...a bit more quirky.

These trainers seem to be putting us away even more than they have done over the decades, and it's only because of the media under their hooters that it's becoming increasingly evident.

Next year...I'm gonna keep a close eye on these kind of threads and I'm gonna be backing & laying as soon as the markets get under way for the handicaps.

There have been some fantastic observations on here, and considering the vast majority actually suggested the right races (as well as the results) is well worth mentioning.

It's still gonna be really difficult for me to change my spots and BACK an O'Neill nag, but I will try to keep them on my side in future, in not laying them!

I've been into this game nearly as long as Henderson's been training, and until a couple of years ago, I naively figured he was as straight as any stable Blush

He's got an impressive portfolio over the last few seasons that rivals Jonjo's for chicanery, and the evidence has become damning Angry

One again...congrats to the many who helped out with their long-range observations, and it shouldn't be overlooked that the more information we have access to nowadays, the more difficult these conundrums become.

For me...the best of the lot was Salut Flo (O'Neill's & Henderson's are telegraphed) as it's impossible for me to price up one of these runners, and I always seem to be bitten by them as a layer Cry
By:
Gibberish
When: 23 Mar 12 18:03
"zilzal1
16 Nov 11 15:46 Joined: 05 Oct 03 | Topic/replies: 9,043 | Blogger: zilzal1's blog
Probably Magic Carpet, but its about as Dark as a Polar Bear with a pot of Dulux thats giving an Iceberg a lick of paint"

An appropriate metaphor more pertinent with one of Jonjo's Plain

Anything you can help us with as regards this nag, who hasn't even been seen since September '08 Shocked
Unraced over jumps too Confused
By:
zilzal1
When: 23 Mar 12 18:22
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh

Magic Carpet was the name of the forumite that suggested Daves DreamPlain in the very reply above mineCool
By:
Gibberish
When: 23 Mar 12 19:10
Blush How embarrassing Blush

I thought you were on to a really greasy plot Laugh
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