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By:
BJG
When: 26 Jan 12 14:57
Al Ferof (FR) (Mr J. Hales) Paul Nicholls.......................................................................... 7 11 7
Astracad (FR) (Mr H. R. Mould) Nigel Twiston-Davies ............................................. 6 11 7
Bagber (Mr Allan McLuckie) W. P. Mullins, Ireland........................................................ 6 11 7
Baily Green (IRE) (R. A. Scott) M. F. Morris, Ireland ................................................. 6 11 7
Blackstairmountain (IRE) (Mrs S. Ricci) W. P. Mullins, Ireland.............................. 7 11 7
Bog Warrior (IRE) (Gigginstown House Stud) A. J. Martin, Ireland ..................... 8 11 7
Call The Police (IRE) (DD Racing Syndicate) W. P. Mullins, Ireland ..................... 9 11 7
Cristal Bonus (FR) (Mr R. J. H. Geffen) Paul Nicholls ............................................... 6 11 7
Cue Card (Mrs Jean R. Bishop) Colin Tizzard ................................................................ 6 11 7
Escort’men (FR) (Donlon, Doyle & MacDonald) Paul Nicholls .............................. 6 11 7
Foildubh (IRE) (Mr John Patrick Ryan) John Patrick Ryan, Ireland ........................ 8 11 7
For Non Stop (IRE) (Mr Jared Sullivan) Nick Williams.............................................. 7 11 7
Kid Cassidy (IRE) (Mr John P. McManus) Nicky Henderson.................................... 6 11 7
Kumbeshwar (McNeill Family & Mr Nigel Bunter) Alan King ................................. 5 11 7
Lucky William (IRE) (Garden Kingdom Syndicate) Thomas Cooper, Ireland ... 8 11 7
Menorah (IRE) (Mrs Diana L. Whateley) Philip Hobbs.............................................. 7 11 7
Nearest The Pin (IRE) (Sox Syndicate) A. J. Martin, Ireland.................................. 7 11 7
Pacha du Polder (FR) (The Stewart & Wylie Families) Paul Nicholls ................. 5 11 7
Peddlers Cross (IRE) (Mr T. G. Leslie) Donald McCain ........................................... 7 11 7
Realt Mor (IRE) (Mrs Pat Sloan) Nicky Richards .......................................................... 7 11 7
Sanctuaire (FR) (Mr Jared Sullivan) Paul Nicholls ........................................................ 6 11 7
Shot From The Hip (GER) (Mr John P. McManus) E. J. O’Grady, Ireland ........ 8 11 7
Sir des Champs (FR) (Gigginstown House Stud) W. P. Mullins, Ireland.............. 6 11 7
Sprinter Sacre (FR) (Mrs Caroline Mould) Nicky Henderson ............................... 6 11 7
Tajweed (IRE) (Mr Brian Comer) Luke Comer, Ireland............................................. 7 11 7
Zaynar (FR) (Men In Our Position) Nick Williams ....................................................... 7 11 7
Alasi (Mr Shully Liebermann) Paul Webber ...................................................................... 8 11 0
By:
mmg
When: 27 Jan 12 17:07
my banker of the Festival.
By:
Masterminded
When: 27 Jan 12 18:19
Going straight there according to his column
By:
eric_morris
When: 27 Jan 12 19:17
I think they are worried he isnt really a chaser and dont want him to flop again.  They want to make sure they have a runner at the Festival. If any horse needs another prep run to practice his fencing it is this one. The reasons for not taking up novice chases coming up are hilarious.
By:
thieveslikeus
When: 27 Jan 12 19:20
Horse is best fresh, so delighted to hear confirmation that it goes straight to Arkle.
By:
eric_morris
When: 27 Jan 12 19:20
I would worry if I'd backed him, seems the owner is guarateed a day out but the horse isnt guaranteed to jump at Arkle pace.
By:
buddeliea
When: 27 Jan 12 19:24
Would have thought it wise to have another run myself,but trainer ought to know best i guess.
By:
Evertheoptimist
When: 27 Jan 12 21:35
Certainly don't think the owner just wants "a Day out" Eric, if he does then Overturn can do that in the Champion, sure they just want to do the right thing with the horse; McCain always been outright with his assertion that he doesn't want to do anything wrong with he horse or "ruin" it, more than anything. I've backed it and not too worried about it going straight there myself, clearly needs a little time to recover from Kempton, but jumped efficiently and safely at Bangor both times before that. He's fairly experienced at racing now, if not over fences and think he'll be bang there come the day. We know he gets up the hill and still my banker of the meeting!
By:
festivalfanatic
When: 27 Jan 12 23:01
Worrying that McCain has never come out and said what was wrong with him at Kempton and a big minus that there is no chance to redeem himself before Cheltenham. Whatever wins this Arkle is going to have to be in the form of their lives and he has had a flawed preparation IMO.
By:
tomdeane
When: 28 Jan 12 05:47
^ That for me is the dilemma in a nutshell.

Am personally more than prepared to write off the Kempton run as I'm convinced he just didn't turn up, but I'm worried about the McCain silence for three reasons:

1> He's one of the most open trainers in the game, so when he starts keeping things quiet about his best horse, you have to wonder why. That then links in with:

2> Is there really an issue or are they just bluffing? Perhaps they didn't find anything wrong physically but convinced themselves something else was to blame. Or:

3> If they did find something wrong physically but won't say what it was, can we be confident that the problem is 100% fixed by March 13?

Very frustrating as I do think his class makes him the one to beat and his price at present could look a gift in the aftermath of what looks certain to be the race of the meeting. But in such a hot race, you don't want to be putting your money down if things are not absolutely tickety-boo.
By:
eric_morris
When: 28 Jan 12 07:47
Evertheoptimist ... I would say they are actually risking 'ruining' their horse by not allowing him to put right his poor show of jumping last time out. A frenetic Arkle pace, the undulating course and Cheltenham fences are a massive obstacle to novices short of match practice especially those who have stuttered when asked for much less.
By:
yeast
When: 08 Feb 12 19:24
It's Arkle odds are now virtually back to the price it was pre Kempton. The trainer's given no excuse whatsoever for it's run, it's not been out since and nor does it intend to.

The fav's not run since, Cue Card's had a good win and Al Ferof has ran respectably in the VC Chase.

Utterly baffling.
By:
buddeliea
When: 08 Feb 12 19:43
yeh,does seem a bit strange.
By:
thieveslikeus
When: 08 Feb 12 19:48
The trainer did give an excuse, says the horse was scoped and found to have a muscle problem.
By:
yeast
When: 08 Feb 12 19:52
Where was that thieves? I missed that.
By:
buddeliea
When: 08 Feb 12 19:54
me too,all i have seen is trainer saying they found something,but did not say what it was.
By:
buddeliea
When: 08 Feb 12 19:55
still seems strange to me the horse being backed
By:
yeast
When: 08 Feb 12 20:01
All I can suggest Budd is that it's a very strong trends horse and it's got tremendous festival form.

Over fences it's only faced one high class horse and got well beaten. If Sprinter hacks up on Saturday then surely it's got to drift.
By:
BJG
When: 08 Feb 12 20:02
From yesterday


Donald McCain remains confident Peddlers Cross will be back to his brilliant best when he lines up in the Arkle Trophy at Cheltenham next month.

The Grand National-winning trainer has always had unwavering faith in the seven-year-old and he proved beyond all doubt he is a horse out of the top drawer when running Hurricane Fly close in last season's Champion Hurdle.

As one of the most exciting recruits to the chasing game in many a year, Peddlers Cross did everything right on his first couple of starts over fences at Bangor, but he was firmly put in his place by Sprinter Sacre at Kempton over Christmas.

That result saw Sprinter Sacre usurp Peddlers Cross at the top of the Arkle betting, but McCain is adamant his pride and joy is far better than he showed that day.

"Peddlers is grand. He's working away and we've decided we're going to go straight to Cheltenham because the races that were available didn't really fit in with what we wanted to do," said McCain.

"We'll get him A1 for the big day and it's all systems go. Plan A is the Arkle.

"He came back from Kempton pretty much wrong everywhere, he was very sore. It fully justified his run, we tidied everything up and he seems in great nick.

"I don't think there's ever been a day when Peddlers Cross hasn't worked like a machine, so I don't see any reason to panic. He's very special."

Also carrying the colours of owner Tim Leslie is the ever-consistent Overturn, winner of the Fighting Fifth Hurdle at Newcastle earlier this season.

He has since been placed at Cheltenham and Kempton in top-class company and McCain feels he has enough about him to be in the mix in the Champion Hurdle.

"I would expect him to be in the first four," the trainer stated. "He wasn't quite as sharp as he could have been in the International (at Cheltenham) and he definitely wasn't at Kempton. That puts him right in the mix.

"You wouldn't go expecting to beat Hurricane Fly, but a bouncing Overturn would be able to compete with most of them."
By:
thieveslikeus
When: 08 Feb 12 20:11
Racing Post Jan 3rd;

PEDDLERS CROSS is back on track for the Irish Independent Arkle Chase at the Cheltenham Festival after muscle problems were discovered that could help explain the cause of his first defeat over fences to Sprinter Sacre.

Immediately after that run trainer Donald McCain had suggested that last year's Champion Hurdle runner-up, who made such an impressive start to his chasing career with two victories at Bangor, could be set to step up in trip from 2m. However, now that McCain is armed with a fuller explanation he has no reason to divert Peddlers Cross from his initial Cheltenham goal of the Arkle, from which he was displaced as favourite by the impressive Wayward Lad Novices' Chase winner and for which he is now a best-priced 6-1. Peddlers Cross was handed a 16-length beating in the race at Kempton, where his challenge was undermined by a bad firstfence blunder. McCain said: "There are one or two issues, only minor muscle problems and stuff, that could have come from the mistake, could have been there to start with or could even been caused after the race. We've found a little bit of stuff that we're working our way through. "I'd like to think it does help explain the result. I'm not a bad loser and if the best horse has won then so be it, but it was just the manner that the horse got beat. Everybody would know that's not Peddlers Cross. "There's nothing drastic, we've just got to get him back rolling again, and then we'll make a decision further down the line. But, having come away from there, there's no need to change anything just yet. I'd think we'll see him again before March.

" McCain added that Overturn, like Peddlers Cross owned by Tim Leslie, has earned a holiday after five runs over hurdles already this season, culminating in a third in the Christmas Hurdle. The trainer said: "Overturn is having a break. We knew we were taking a chance at Kempton but it was a race worth taking a chance in. There's not much for him now. The ground has changed in the last week and gone very soft everywhere. Up to then it hadn't, so we'll just go quietly and freshen him up for the spring. "I'd imagine he'll run in the Champion."
By:
yeast
When: 08 Feb 12 20:14
Thanks thieves.
By:
stormey1
When: 08 Feb 12 20:17
thieves it is not a thing he is a living breathing animal
By:
stormey1
When: 08 Feb 12 20:18
sorry that was for yeast
By:
eric_morris
When: 11 Feb 12 13:10
Tipping line today?
By:
connazz2
When: 11 Feb 12 15:06
eric whats that about thetipping line
By:
Stake & Chips
When: 11 Feb 12 15:36
Probably been put up as a maximum e/w bet by the usual suspects...
By:
wellchief
When: 11 Feb 12 15:44
I can't believe that he is now a SHORTER price than he was before his Sprinter Sacre spanking and hasn't ran since.

Makes no sense at all to me
By:
eric_morris
When: 11 Feb 12 17:48
Maybe the stable had it doubled with todays gambled in winner, however it shortened well before that result?
By:
eric_morris
When: 11 Feb 12 17:51
connazz2 not sure why it ias shortened across all bookies today.
By:
yeast
When: 11 Feb 12 22:15
Now trading lower than before Kempton. Bonkers.

Eric - It's not an it. It's a living breathing animal. Laugh

Some touchy people about.
By:
stevo1
When: 15 Feb 12 01:33
At least can lay off bit of my 8s as way too short now, like the fav will find a saver of something when nr no bet as no value, maybe Al Ferof may be answer?
By:
stevo1
When: 02 Mar 12 01:06
Oh well so previous quotes on posts above appear bollox re trainer, anyway shame if he doesnt make it as makes it 2 horse race. Maybe he now knows he cant beat the Fav?
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