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By:
wolf3011
When: 02 Dec 18 22:30
Just dealing with the first round alone, Fury landed one good right hand- thats not enough to win a round back peddling flicking out jabs that didn't land
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 02 Dec 18 22:44
I think its time we all just agree to disagree and hope the rematch will have a conclusive result with no controversy
By:
Captain carnage
When: 02 Dec 18 22:53
I gave it to Fury despite having the fight a draw.

I thought Wilder landed about 7 weak shots and 1 decent power shot. I had Fury landing only
3 weak shots but 3 power shots. That's enough for me.

Anyone could have given it to either fighter or a draw like a fair few rounds.
By:
wolf3011
When: 02 Dec 18 23:06

Dec 2, 2018 -- 10:53PM, Captain carnage wrote:


I gave it to Fury despite having the fight a draw.I thought Wilder landed about 7 weak shots and 1 decent power shot. I had Fury landing only 3 weak shots but 3 power shots. That's enough for me. Anyone could have given it to either fighter or a draw like a fair few rounds.


Im amazed you could give the round to Fury but regardless, it highlights how close many rounds were and given the fact we had two 10-8 rounds with Fury hitting the canvas twice, I fail to see how anyone can have Fury winning the fight. Even getting away from the scoring, Wilder wasn't hurt at any stage whilst Fury was dropped on two occasions a second away from being counted out- hardly robbery

By:
tobermory
When: 03 Dec 18 01:14
N88uk is right that drawn rounds are almost unheard of in boxing, even when hardly anything has happened in the round.

We might think the boxing scoring system is stupid, but when scoring fights ourselves we may as well accept how it works in reality.
By:
wolf3011
When: 03 Dec 18 10:06

Dec 3, 2018 -- 1:14AM, tobermory wrote:


N88uk is right that drawn rounds are almost unheard of in boxing, even when hardly anything has happened in the round.We might think the boxing scoring system is stupid, but when scoring fights ourselves we may as well accept how it works in reality.


The Americans rarely use the 10-10 scoring system but you frequently get tied rounds in Europe. If you are just going to pick a winner in a 50/50 round like flipping a coin, its no wonder we get such huge variances across scorecards. Imagine the scenario , Boxer A and boxer B tie  round one but a judge picks boxer A based on one more jab landed in the first round. In the second round boxer B comprehensively out boxes boxer A  winning the round with ease but after the 2 rounds going into round three the judges have the fight level when in reality boxer B has been comfortably the better fighter. This pattern continues and you get a close decision in a fight where boxer B completely outclasses his opponent. People should comment on what they see and if they can't separate two fighters, should score the round level.

By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 03 Dec 18 11:45
In hindsight Fury should have tied him up in that final round, his corner must have know he was up in the fight? and avoid another silly knockdown or KO?

If he hadn't have gone down in that 12th it would have been much tougher to get away with scoring it a draw imo, Wilder would have had one sloppy knock down all fight and wouldn't have had an argument.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 03 Dec 18 11:49
nothing against Davison as he's done a bloody good job of getting Tyson back motivated again

But those late rounds he needed Peter Fury there imo, esp going into the 12th.
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 03 Dec 18 12:18
yeh I said exactly the same thing in play after round 10
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 03 Dec 18 12:20

Dec 2, 2018 -- 5:27AM, GRANTCKING wrote:


fury just has to jab and grab, earn ur money ben davison


Cry

By:
Captain carnage
When: 03 Dec 18 12:57
`Peter would have won him the fight if there instead of Davison.' OMFG.

Peter and Tysons Father have been caught on camera saying they feared for him in this fight on the back of 2 fights v doormen.

What Davison did to get him in the physical condition he was in is nothing short of the most remarkable piece of coaching/conditioning I have ever seen. He will have many top class fighters phoning him up as we speak.
By:
Captain carnage
When: 03 Dec 18 12:59
I think it is massive mistake for judges not to want to give drawn rounds. If there is a clear/decisive winner of the round give it. If not dont.

Otherwise you end with all the terrible scoring ith certain judges giving a number of nothing rounds to a fighter just because he walks forward etc.

The single best thing they could do to improve scoring is to encourage Judges to give tight rounds as what they are a DRAW.
By:
Captain carnage
When: 03 Dec 18 13:00
Ans PS. There is never anything tight about a round where you put your opponent on his arse.

If you do that you deserve at least a 10-8 round unless the other guy then has you punch drunk on the ropes and saved by the bell.
By:
Captain carnage
When: 03 Dec 18 13:10
All that utter garbage about the first ko should only be a 10-9 round Wilder. Ffs - go back to your Tommy Robinson marches you inbred knovbbbs.
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 03 Dec 18 14:34
Laugh who said a knockdown round should be 10-9?
By:
wolf3011
When: 03 Dec 18 15:58
Virtually all knockdowns are scored 10-8, who has said otherwise?
By:
bobweenit
When: 03 Dec 18 20:22

Nov 30, 2018 -- 7:58PM, Charlton2005 wrote:


Callisto-moon 29 Nov 18 12:54 Joined: 08 Aug 16 | Topic/replies: 3,149 | Blogger: Callisto-moon's blog exatly, you don't come back from what fury has done to himself! you don't come back.let alone what he has been throughbob and grant obviously too young to have seen this all before.


Like I said he just had a couple of years of a few beers a few lines no biggy! A little rest never hurt anyone ya mugsLaugh

By:
bobweenit
When: 03 Dec 18 20:23

Dec 1, 2018 -- 1:57PM, bobweenit wrote:


Nov 30, 2018 --  8:09PM, Charlton2005 wrote:for anyone thinking of backing fury, have a watch of ali-williams, ali-folley and ali-bonavenaassume that frazier is a reasonable proxy for wilder. now ask yourself, is fury a reasonable proxy for ali?fury has two chances.1. none2. none at allFury just had a reat a few pints and is in better shaer thane ever! Not a great boxing historian but I assume you are talking accout when Ali fought on after being past it shape worn and getting on in age? Tyson is still young and not had any tough fights


Has Castillo-moon been seen of late? Or is he begging his boss 4 overtimeLaugh

By:
bobweenit
When: 03 Dec 18 20:27

Dec 1, 2018 -- 4:40PM, wolf3011 wrote:


Biggest bet of the year for me on wilder to win and if he doesn't I'll be calling it a day on here.


He is still posting I see! no doubt he traded out at the perfect timeLaugh

By:
wolf3011
When: 03 Dec 18 20:32

Dec 3, 2018 -- 8:27PM, bobweenit wrote:


Dec  1, 2018 --  4:40PM, wolf3011 wrote:Biggest bet of the year for me on wilder to win and if he doesn't I'll be calling it a day on here.He is still posting I see! no doubt he traded out at the perfect time


I dont know what you are crowing about you muppet , you backed Fury to win by knockout. If they were still fighting now your bet wouldnt have come in

By:
wolf3011
When: 03 Dec 18 20:35

Nov 28, 2018 -- 12:57PM, bobweenit wrote:


People underestimating Fury's power!If Wilder is swinging away Fury is more than capable of sparking him clean


What a load of fooking ****

By:
bobweenit
When: 03 Dec 18 20:36
so you don't think Fury is capable of sparking Wilder clean out? Bigger mug than I thought!
By:
wolf3011
When: 03 Dec 18 20:38

Dec 3, 2018 -- 8:36PM, bobweenit wrote:


so you don't think Fury is capable of sparking Wilder clean out? Bigger mug than I thought!


no , Fury doesnt have the power and never troubled wilder once in terms of getting the knockout. A stupid bet from a stupid poster trying to mock others with that load of garbage as a prediction

By:
wolf3011
When: 03 Dec 18 20:40
My bet was a second from coming in , when did your Fury KO prediction ever look like coming in? Anyone that watches boxing knows Wilder has a solid chin with Fury being a boxer rather than a banger. Back in your box and count your losses.. I dont mind someone like grant mocking my wilder win prediction as he was closer to being correct but a poster who backed Fury to win by ko trying to give it the big un- toddle off.
By:
bobweenit
When: 03 Dec 18 20:41
But he is capable was my point and he troubled him throughout the fight! What was keeping  Wilder off? baby punches? Every man and his dog had Fury winning easily and he got robbed! And you said Wilder was a 1.2 shot only stupid poster here is you lad.
By:
bobweenit
When: 03 Dec 18 20:42

Dec 3, 2018 -- 8:40PM, wolf3011 wrote:


My bet was a second from coming in , when did your Fury KO prediction ever look like coming in? Anyone that watches boxing knows Wilder has a solid chin with Fury being a boxer rather than a banger. Back in your box and count your losses.. I dont mind someone like grant mocking my wilder win prediction as he was closer to being correct but a poster who backed Fury to win by ko trying to give it the big un- toddle off.


my prediction won all fight never made the prediction he would knock him out!

By:
bobweenit
When: 03 Dec 18 20:43

Nov 28, 2018 -- 12:55PM, bobweenit wrote:


FURY IS THE BET OF THE DECADE ! FILL YOUR BOOTS ON THE 2.7 AND 9 AVAILABLE BY TKO/KO


that 2.7 traded low enough for me to make a nice amountHappy you kid yourself you traded out at the right time tho ya joker

By:
wolf3011
When: 03 Dec 18 20:43
Every man and his dog didnt have Fury winning or he would be world champion wouldnt he you gormless chump. If you read the thread there is more than me who think that a draw was affair result. You stated what the odds were for a Fury KO, he wouldnt have knocked wilder out if they were still fighting now ffs
By:
bobweenit
When: 03 Dec 18 20:45
If Wilder would have gone for it a bit more he would have done! Fury has big ko percentage and is capable but very rarely unloads !
By:
bobweenit
When: 03 Dec 18 20:45
ok everyman and his dog bar the bent judges
By:
wolf3011
When: 03 Dec 18 20:47
Bottom line is Bobby boy your bet was as far away as mine as coming in, infact further so pipe down. You would be entitled to comment if your bets came in , but neither of them did like mine didn't. I also said anything can happen in professional boxing and would never say anything was a dead cert like others have said earlier in the thread.
By:
bobweenit
When: 03 Dec 18 20:47
but I am sure Mayweather and Andre Ward are gormless chumps too ! Both said Fury was robbed and both the best W champs of the last decadeLaugh
By:
bobweenit
When: 03 Dec 18 20:47

Dec 3, 2018 -- 8:47PM, wolf3011 wrote:


Bottom line is Bobby boy your bet was as far away as mine as coming in, infact further so pipe down. You would be entitled to comment if your bets came in , but neither of them did like mine didn't. I also said anything can happen in professional boxing and would never say anything was a dead cert like others have said earlier in the thread.


Ok thats a fair point Wolf we were both wrong let's move on Happy

By:
wolf3011
When: 03 Dec 18 20:48
lol , lets hope the rematch has at least one of our bets coming in
By:
wolf3011
When: 03 Dec 18 20:51
Fury did well, much better than any of us thought tbh especially with the long lay off
By:
bobweenit
When: 03 Dec 18 21:35
Nah have to disagree there wolf I said he would be fitter than ever tbf and he has had a long time to get himself in shape. I think a lot of people made a lot of his 2 comeback fight tbh he is 1 of them sportsmen who raises his game to the better opponents and put the hard work in! He was always going to be in good shape a lot better than the 2 previous who he knew he could bt when pissed. And so many people making a huge deal about the lay off!
All he did was eat some food and drinks some beer for a few months, I dont reckon he smashed the coke to hard that's what would ruin you if you were on it to long and he hasn't mentioned it much so just assume it was a month or 2. '
By:
bobweenit
When: 03 Dec 18 21:38

Dec 1, 2018 -- 1:57PM, bobweenit wrote:


Nov 30, 2018 --  8:09PM, Charlton2005 wrote:for anyone thinking of backing fury, have a watch of ali-williams, ali-folley and ali-bonavenaassume that frazier is a reasonable proxy for wilder. now ask yourself, is fury a reasonable proxy for ali?fury has two chances.1. none2. none at allFury just had a reat a few pints and is in better shaer thane ever! Not a great boxing historian but I assume you are talking accout when Ali fought on after being past it shape worn and getting on in age? Tyson is still young and not had any tough fights


.

By:
superjudge
When: 03 Dec 18 22:23
what are some people on wilder has a good chin er no and tyson fury would not knock me out
By:
wolf3011
When: 04 Dec 18 00:02

Dec 3, 2018 -- 10:23PM, superjudge wrote:


what are some people on wilder has a good chin er no and tyson fury would not knock me out


How does wilder not have a good chin? Did you not see his last fight before Fury for eg .. how many times has wilder been down. What a ridiculous post

By:
superjudge
When: 04 Dec 18 07:42
wolf you do talk like a prick.the fight before fury the bell saved him.it well known hes chinney hes been kod in sparring ffs.
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