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bobweenit When: 11 Nov 18 00:05

n88 you still think it was tko?

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bobweenit When: 11 Nov 18 00:05

buffer announced ko

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tobermory When: 11 Nov 18 00:05

Nov 10, 2018 -- 11:59PM, scandanavian_haven wrote:

I hope Bellew doesn't turn to commentating now, that's not a voice you want to hear high pitched non stop

Bellew has been one of Sky's top 4 pundits for 18 months now. The only ones he hasn't pundited on were his own fights. You can look forward to 30+ years of his voice

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wisewords When: 11 Nov 18 00:06

Nov 11, 2018 -- 12:04AM, n88uk wrote:

Go for broke rarely ever actually works though. Vs anyone skilled, you just wave the storm and let them gas themselves out which they will if they are actually going for broken. And it's much easier said than done anyway unless you are up against a plodder or someone totally gassed just standing there, as not like they will just stand there to be hit.

I agree. Still think it was Bellew's best chance of winning. Usyk was on the backfoot in those early rounds. Bellew was looking fresh. Should have cornered him and towards the end of a round gone into crazy mode and tried to hurt him. Even a glancing blow to the top of the head would have done damage. The sort of thing Dillian Whyte did to Joe Parker, roughed him up

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scandanavian_haven When: 11 Nov 18 00:07

I've never heard Bellew commentate, what was his last 2-3 fights he commentated on ?

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bobweenit When: 11 Nov 18 00:07

Adam Smith is the worst you hear his line telling people Tony is not actually a terrosit cos he has the bomber tattooed on his back!

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bobweenit When: 11 Nov 18 00:07

Sky need to sack smith he ruin all the fights with his ****

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n88uk When: 11 Nov 18 00:08

Nov 11, 2018 -- 12:05AM, bobweenit wrote:

n88 you still think it was tko?

Did Bellew actually beat the count. I thought he did? If he didn't then it's KO, but I thought the ref waved it off after he got up.

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wisewords When: 11 Nov 18 00:08

Nov 10, 2018 -- 11:43PM, wolf3011 wrote:

I thought USYK was well ahead at the time of the stoppage but everyone in the media thinks otherwise

Bellew was benefitting from hometown judging, but it still wouldn't have been enough because Usyk would have won 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12 and thus it didn't matter if they had Bellew 2 up or whatever rubbish

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scandanavian_haven When: 11 Nov 18 00:08

How much exactly did Bellew earn tonight

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bobweenit When: 11 Nov 18 00:08

ywah he waved it of I agree after the 8 count

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wisewords When: 11 Nov 18 00:08

Nov 11, 2018 -- 12:08AM, n88uk wrote:

Nov 11, 2018 -- 12:05AM, bobweenit wrote:n88 you still think it was tko?Did Bellew actually beat the count. I thought he did? If he didn't then it's KO, but I thought the ref waved it off after he got up.

The ref waved it off after he saw Dave Coldwell trying to get into the ring.

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n88uk When: 11 Nov 18 00:09

Oh if he did that then it's KO.

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wisewords When: 11 Nov 18 00:09

so therefore he stopped it, and it goes down as a KO. if Coldwell had got into the ring with the towel, it would have been a TKO.

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tobermory When: 11 Nov 18 00:09

I'm not sure he's done the co comm on a PVV but he is usually one of the 3 standing up

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bobweenit When: 11 Nov 18 00:10

not after the 10 count he got to 8 and waved it of

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n88uk When: 11 Nov 18 00:10

Bellew clearly wasn't going to win another round yer. He was just on the back foot throwing single punches last few rounds, like impossible to win rounds doing that unless other guy is doing nothing too.

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GRANTCKING When: 11 Nov 18 00:11

Nov 11, 2018 -- 12:10AM, bobweenit wrote:

not after the 10 count he got to 8 and waved it of

KO, only a TKO if a towel was thrown in the ring before the ref waved it off

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bobweenit When: 11 Nov 18 00:12

not sure thats betfairs rules coop the tko traded a low lower than ko suggesting more option than just the towell coming in

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bobweenit When: 11 Nov 18 00:13

it traded at 3s and was lower than the ko pre fight

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wisewords When: 11 Nov 18 00:13

Nov 11, 2018 -- 12:10AM, bobweenit wrote:

not after the 10 count he got to 8 and waved it of

yes waved it off when he caught a glance of Dave Coldwell infront of him on his way into the ring with the towel. think the ref was going to let Bellew try to get up otherwise

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wisewords When: 11 Nov 18 00:14

if Terry O'Connor hadn't noticed Coldwell until he got into the ring, would have been a TKO like what happened with Brook against GGG with Dom Ingle throwing the towel in

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wisewords When: 11 Nov 18 00:15

Nov 10, 2018 -- 11:47PM, mega88 wrote:

In all seriousness is bellew a decent boxer or he just got lucky in his career ????

European level Cruiserweight boxer. lucked out achieving what he did in his career when you look at someone like Nathan Cleverly who was a similar standard

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wisewords When: 11 Nov 18 00:17

Nov 10, 2018 -- 11:43PM, mega88 wrote:

Baby Miller gonna beat everyone

behave meg, he's about 26 stone

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bobweenit When: 11 Nov 18 00:18

KO or TKO
Knockout (KO) is when the boxer does not stand up after a 10 count.
Technical knockout (TKO) is the 3 knockdown rule or if the referee steps in to stop the fight

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wisewords When: 11 Nov 18 00:18

Nov 10, 2018 -- 11:45PM, scandanavian_haven wrote:

in small fights you make a case for home decisions, but in big fights you generally get better judges who are better paid and less dodgy, though obv it does happen, but if he's up on all of the cards then he's up, maybe you'd be intimidated but don't think the judges would be lol

totally disagree with that. GGG v Canelo 1 and GGG v Canelo 2 obvious examples of crooked judging in the biggest fights in recent times

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bobweenit When: 11 Nov 18 00:18

so if a ref jumps into to stop a fight when someones getting chinned on the ropes but wont drop they pay out a tko

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wisewords When: 11 Nov 18 00:20

does it make a big difference to your profit or something bob? you only go into this serious bob mode on such occasions

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scandanavian_haven When: 11 Nov 18 00:20

GGG V Canelo 1 - there was a case for 2 of the judges being right - but that other judge who I believe has not worked since was easily bent.

I don't think the judging in GGG v Canelo 2 was bad, everyone pretty much agreed it was 50/50 and going into the last round said GGG had to go for it to win

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bobweenit When: 11 Nov 18 00:22

it does wise I backed ko and they paid out on it then took it back then re payed out on it so even they were confused

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wisewords When: 11 Nov 18 00:22

Nov 10, 2018 -- 11:45PM, wolf3011 wrote:

First round was even , no one threw a punch

agree, but they probably gave it to Bellew on "ring generalship". he gave the impression he was controlling the pace early doors

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bobweenit When: 11 Nov 18 00:22

buffer said by ko though so good enough for me

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wisewords When: 11 Nov 18 00:23

Nov 11, 2018 -- 12:22AM, bobweenit wrote:

it does wise I backed ko and they paid out on it then took it back then re payed out on it so even they were confused

did ref reach 10 before he did the arms wave?

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bobweenit When: 11 Nov 18 00:23

nope!

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bobweenit When: 11 Nov 18 00:24

it's borderline but when someone is obviously totally unconscious they never give it the 10 count even tho it is a ko

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scandanavian_haven When: 11 Nov 18 00:25

Was Joshua v Klitscho the best fight of the 21st century ?

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bobweenit When: 11 Nov 18 00:28

Nov 11, 2018 -- 12:25AM, scandanavian_haven wrote:

Was Joshua v Klitscho the best fight of the 21st century ?

not even best fight of the month it occurred in and if you think most judges even have a clue about boxing you are deluded SH ! Watch Burns Beltran! Beltran won every round and smashed burns is jaw in 2 in the first or second but never got the decision in Scotland! A travesty ! Raymond Beltran never won a world title after either

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wisewords When: 11 Nov 18 00:28

Nov 11, 2018 -- 12:24AM, bobweenit wrote:

it's borderline but when someone is obviously totally unconscious they never give it the 10 count even tho it is a ko

true. I defo think Coldwell's actions effected the ending though. O'Connor reacted with the arms wave when Coldwell made his move

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scandanavian_haven When: 11 Nov 18 00:29

didn't see that fight, not saying all judges are clean obviously - esp in smaller bouts

but in all the big fights I've ever seen, in most cases the right decision was made

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GRANTCKING When: 11 Nov 18 00:31

the first GGG was robbery for me, I had GGG winning, the 2nd fight I had a draw