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By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 10 Nov 18 23:45
in small fights you make a case for home decisions, but in big fights you generally get better judges who are better paid and less dodgy, though obv it does happen, but if he's up on all of the cards then he's up, maybe you'd be intimidated but don't think the judges would be lol
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 10 Nov 18 23:45
exactly the same aswell, gave bellew first 3
By:
wolf3011
When: 10 Nov 18 23:45
First round was even , no one threw a punch
By:
mega88
When: 10 Nov 18 23:45

Nov 10, 2018 -- 11:44PM, GRANTCKING wrote:


baby miller is a fat bastard who can barely move


He wants Joshua Excited

By:
casemoney
When: 10 Nov 18 23:45
"RHINO" "RHINO" "RHINO" "RHINO" "RHINO"

If Dave does the Training be a Certainty
By:
mega88
When: 10 Nov 18 23:46
Cro cop beat his ass and hes 50 odd now kickboxing match
By:
tictacman1
When: 10 Nov 18 23:46
BBC Radio 5 live.......



Speaking to BBC Radio 5 live, Tony Bellew said: "He is just so hard and so awkward. He is big and he overpowers you. I tried my best and he is probably the best cruiserweight that ever lived.

"He is better than what it says on the box. It is heartbreaking because I gave it everything I had. Heavyweights stay away, he takes a great shot and I don't even know if I hurt him. I have been doing this for 20 years, and it is over."
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 10 Nov 18 23:46
If the judges view is no good - why have judge since time began always been ringside and not judged the fight on TV, esp as TV has become more advanced so show numerous angles.
By:
wisewords
When: 10 Nov 18 23:47
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By:
mega88
When: 10 Nov 18 23:47
In all seriousness is bellew a decent boxer or he just got lucky in his career ????
By:
n88uk
When: 10 Nov 18 23:47
Probably to have them right there ringside, but I can't actually answer why.
By:
n88uk
When: 10 Nov 18 23:47
It will be something entrenched as that's how it's always been done.
By:
bobweenit
When: 10 Nov 18 23:48

Nov 10, 2018 -- 11:47PM, mega88 wrote:


In all seriousness is bellew a decent boxer or he just got lucky in his career ????


decent but very very fortunate to earn the money he has with his ability

By:
mega88
When: 10 Nov 18 23:49

Nov 10, 2018 -- 11:48PM, bobweenit wrote:


Nov 10, 2018 -- 11:47PM, mega88 wrote:In all seriousness is bellew a decent boxer or he just got lucky in his career ????decent but very very fortunate to earn the money he has with his ability


Sounds right, got lucky with haye having no leg for starters

By:
bobweenit
When: 10 Nov 18 23:49
yeah
By:
tobermory
When: 10 Nov 18 23:49
Judging has been terrible in countless big fights, a judge gave GGG 2 rounds vs Canelo....

Having them watch on TV is a good idea but they just sit where they were always sat before  TV existed.

Often judged are picked by a promoter. There was one who was doing small hall fights and Eddie gave him a shot at glory on the world title scene. And he duly gave Burns that fight against a guy that practically killed him.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 10 Nov 18 23:52
a judge gave GGG 2 rounds vs Canelo...


that's the one I already reference above, it does happen, you do get rogue judges, but sometimes you have to accept that they've seen angles we haven't at home - we're shown whatever angle tv decides to show

judges in big fights are often agreed on both sides like tonight, dodgier decisions more expected in smaller fights.
By:
Des Pond
When: 10 Nov 18 23:52
Bellew made the very best of the ability he had (and it was a respectable level, imo). It was a very well managed career
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 10 Nov 18 23:53
dodgiest decision ever was Mayweather being robbed of a place in the Olympic final in 96
By:
n88uk
When: 10 Nov 18 23:53

Nov 10, 2018 -- 11:49PM, tobermory wrote:


Judging has been terrible in countless big fights, a judge gave GGG 2 rounds vs Canelo....Having them watch on TV is a good idea but they just sit where they were always sat before  TV existed.Often judged are picked by a promoter. There was one who was doing small hall fights and Eddie gave him a shot at glory on the world title scene. And he duly gave Burns that fight against a guy that practically killed him.


That is true when it's just a total stitch up job like that, but tonight's judges will have been neutral for sure, and won't have actually been on the take.

The judges here aren't the absolute worst, but they aren't good either. AJ vs Klitschko another one that most had Klitschko at time of stoppage, all judges had AJ ahead.

By:
n88uk
When: 10 Nov 18 23:53
Roy Jones lost at Olympics which was actually proven fixed. And was total fixed just from watching it as other guy barely lands a punch.
By:
jin_kazz
When: 10 Nov 18 23:54
GGG and Floyd also robbed at OG
By:
jin_kazz
When: 10 Nov 18 23:55
even Loma was robbed in amateurs. and that was his only loss. lol
By:
anxious
When: 10 Nov 18 23:56
Why would people want to slag bellew off , i dont get it he was a good fighter and gave it his all in most fights , was a brave fighter and never  ducked a challenge
By:
wisewords
When: 10 Nov 18 23:56
looking back, Bellew's best hope was to go into "go for broke" mode in round 3 when Usyk looked slightly vulnerable and hope he caught him with one of his big slugging punches
By:
wisewords
When: 10 Nov 18 23:58
Usyk would have always known that his tank was far bigger than Bellew's and as soon as he slowed down it would be easy. Bellew did cause him some trouble in early rounds, and during that moment he should have tried to back him into a corner for the last 45 seconds and unleashed
By:
Des Pond
When: 10 Nov 18 23:58
Lots of British fighters have had dodgy draws or decisions in their favour in recent years. You don't have to try hard to find them. Two of them were on the Card tonight
By:
n88uk
When: 10 Nov 18 23:58
Usyk never really looked that vulnerable, not like Bellew actually wobbled him.
By:
n88uk
When: 10 Nov 18 23:59

Nov 10, 2018 -- 11:55PM, jin_kazz wrote:


even Loma was robbed in amateurs. and that was his only loss. lol


Amateurs is total corrupt.

By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 10 Nov 18 23:59
I hope Bellew doesn't turn to commentating now, that's not a voice you want to hear high pitched non stop
By:
n88uk
When: 10 Nov 18 23:59
Also Usyk's engine is amazing, as seen in his last few fights, he wont like all the latter rounds in those too.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 10 Nov 18 23:59
Amateurs is definitely corrupt to the core - it's always been at it's worst at the Olympics though.
By:
n88uk
When: 11 Nov 18 00:00
He will, like all of the big Sky names end up commentary after retiring.

Froch openly says he doesn't even watch boxing, yet still is always on commentary.
By:
Des Pond
When: 11 Nov 18 00:00
Why would people want to slag bellew off , i dont get it he was a good fighter and gave it his all in most fights , was a brave fighter and never  ducked a challenge

Agree, Anxious.
By:
n88uk
When: 11 Nov 18 00:00
Haye has burned bridges all over the place yet still gets on commentary.
By:
mega88
When: 11 Nov 18 00:00

Nov 10, 2018 -- 11:56PM, wisewords wrote:


looking back, Bellew's best hope was to go into "go for broke" mode in round 3 when Usyk looked slightly vulnerable and hope he caught him with one of his big slugging punches


Totally agree wise, he should have gone beast mode and hope he clipped him round the ear

By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 11 Nov 18 00:01
froch is still upset about losing to Ward, can't quite get over it and gets annoyed when people bring it up
By:
jin_kazz
When: 11 Nov 18 00:01

Nov 10, 2018 -- 11:59PM, n88uk wrote:


Also Usyk's engine is amazing, as seen in his last few fights, he wont like all the latter rounds in those too.


that's how him and loma methodically destruct their opponents. they just can't compete at such speed and gas out in the end.

By:
n88uk
When: 11 Nov 18 00:04
Go for broke rarely ever actually works though. Vs anyone skilled, you just wave the storm and let them gas themselves out which they will if they are actually going for broken. And it's much easier said than done anyway unless you are up against a plodder or someone totally gassed just standing there, as not like they will just stand there to be hit.
By:
wisewords
When: 11 Nov 18 00:05

Nov 11, 2018 -- 12:00AM, n88uk wrote:


Haye has burned bridges all over the place yet still gets on commentary.


Haye got himself in with Chisora now. Hoping Chisora can beat Whyte so Haye can weasel in on the AJ/Chisora gravy train

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