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Having a very good York meeting, from 6f to 1m4f.
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Showcasing, looks like his dam Arabesque, but runs like his sire. Expect he could be a top sprinter next year.
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Oasis Dream now has 30 runners over an RPR of 100.
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Top sire in a top operation. Must go up in price for next year surely.
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The only problem with Oasis Dream,( from a punting point of view ) is that you are not sure how far they are going to stay, starting to get winners that stay much better than you would expect.
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Generally you look at the dam Push, that seems to be a good guide.
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Yeh right Ben , but look at the winner of the Voligeur, out of a Selkirk mare, and Midday out of a Kingmambo mare ( i think , from memory )
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Look closer Push, Midday's dam won over 11f and is a half sister to Reams Of Verse, her dam his Roberto so there is a lot of stamina in that pedigree. I don't think Monitor Closely truly stays (the trainer agrees) and he was allowed to dictate the Voltigeur and save his energy through that.
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*her dam's sire
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He might not stay , but he beat a bunch of stayers over 1 mile 4f, stays far enough. His dam was a high class miler.
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Be interested to see if he could get a colt Grp 1 winner over 1m4f, would you back one of his for the Derby ? His sire Green Desert only got sprinters and milers.
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Yeah but I think the clues are in the dam side, Indepence gets 10 furlong horses, such as Mount Nelson (Rock Of Gibratar is hardly an influence of stamina either) and I think Monitor is in the same mould.
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Yeah I would consider it, like I say if the likes of him and Pivotal can get Oaks fillies there's no reason it can't work for the colts. Cape Cross had the Derby horse this year so things are changing in terms of stoute pedigrees.
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Sorry *stout
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Mount Nelson by Danehill ( 9.1 f) stamina index Oasis Dream ( 7.7 f ) plus Danehill has shown he can get colts that stay 1 mile 4f at Grp 1 level. Pivotal and O.Dream have only so far got fillies that stay, fillies ( imo ) stay better and their races tend to be less competative than the colts. I think STS is an exception as he is out of one of the best Broodmares ever.
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Had any good winners recently Ben ?
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You are possibly right, daughters tend to resemble their mothers more and sons their fathers, be interesting to see although you look at Showcasing and he's all over a sprinter.
Nothing special punting, just been ticking over quite nicely, had a couple of Tregoning's lately which have done me well. Not a massive fan of these festivals there's too many runners for me to figure out how the race is going to pan out, I like the handicaps with 10ish runners at the good tracks. Been some good maidens to follow lately, did you see Newbury last week? Have you had much recently? |
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Yeh , Balthazars Gift at Newbury, and the Scarlet Pimp at York , then lost a bit in the Votigeur, was also on the 2nd in the Gimcrack at 25-1. That Shamardal colt may run in the Futurity at the weekend, but will prob be soft ground, waiting to see him on faster ground before i decide about him.
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Nice one, not too bad then. Yeah looks like soft at Fairyhouse by the weekend, I think Cape Blanco is the one for that race, think he's in the mould of Rip and they'll go for the Guineas more than they did with Rip. What did you think of Changingoftheguard today, I felt it was a Leger performance?
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Well i took the 25-1 before todays race, because the horse they ran in this 2 years ago went off the fave for the Leger. But AOA must be their No 1 hope as he was 2nd in a Grp 1 in France.
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Hope Cape Blanco turns out to be top notch.
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Yeah AOA looks good but he doesn't really excite me, his Derby performance from the front should have been better than it was, I'd prefer Kite Wood to him.
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The new Danehill!
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can i lol that? not usually a 'lol'er
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peeps - this wasn't in the RP reports today....
from the JDG Son entraîneur, John Gosden, qui entraînait Oasis Dream à lépoque, disait après la course : « Il ressemble énormément à son père, Oasis Dream, notamment par son physique et cest certainement le meilleur fils dOasis Dream que jai à lentraînement. Nous allons prendre la même route que nous avions suivie avec son père et aller courir les Middle Park Stakes (Gr1). » |
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For those that don't speak French :)
His trainer, John Gosden, [who Oasis Dream in epoch drew away], said after running: He resembles his father, Oasis Dream, tremendously notable by his physical appearance and it is indeed the best son of Oasis Dream whom I have in training. We are going to take the same road which we had followed with his father and go to run the Middle Park Stakes |
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Quote from Tony Morris in yesterdays RP in his pedigree analysis of Oasis Dreams` daughter Midday.
"He is emulating another pure sprinter in Pivotal by essentially transmitting class rather than one distinct aptitude relating to distance." My comment was slightly tic but I was more making reference to the fact he was also an Abdullah sprinter by trade and is showing positive early signs of upgrading mares with both class and stamina. Why cant there be another Danehill? |
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giants strides might be needed giant strides, though he is surely going in the right direction.
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Yeh , another winner Arcano , and i backed it at 6-1. Oasis Dream fast becoming my fave sire.
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Looked a Guineas performance way he kept finding, 12/1 doesn't look worht it though.
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I took 25-1 with Hills after the win at Newmarket, but looking at the form with the filly in the race ( Special Duty ) , look like they could all be sprinters, although Arcano does have alot of stamina on the dams side. Bunch finish , and Special Duty was a bit of a bunch finish LTO . I wont be getting too excited just yet.
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I think you should at that price, I think 6f was a little on the sharp side, should get 7f no doubt. He made up a lot of ground late on doing his best work at the finish.
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Only seen the race once , her indoors is watching the athletics.
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£90,000 a mating for Oasis Dream, and getting higher.
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90k? Do you really think they are going to treble his fee in the current climate? I don't. But I could well see him being 50k next year assuming his sales go well.
When I spoke to them about booking a provisional nom for 2010 season earlier in the year, they were not planning to raise his fee, and said that it would largely depend on how the sales went and how the trade held up. However, he has been banging in the group winners since then and one assumes that anything by him will be hot this season, so an increase is almost inevitable. Sons of his will be very acceptable too I would imagine. |
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Oh, i got that figure out of one of the Daily papers, yesterday after Arcanos win.
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Stallion in Focus, in this weeks Weekender.
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From the Weekender , why does Oasis Dream get winners at a range of distances
" O.Dreams pedigree, is a jumble of influences speedy on the male side less so on the female line. His dam Hope has produced a French 1000 Guineas winner. Her sister was the Irish Oaks winner Wemyss Bight, while another half sister produced the top class stayers Reefscape and Coastal Path". |
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Aqlaam , Grp 1 winner for Oasis Dream, weak Grp 1 mind.
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Still LOLing dudewheresmyvar?
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