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But Siavash was a greasy slimeball who gave them all the rope they needed. How could they not make a big deal out of his disgusting behaviour? It%u2019s their job to make an interesting programme.
I was very surprised that the women forumites didn%u2019t cotton on to his character a lot earlier, there were many clues, some obvious, I guess if they find a guy attractive he can get away with a lot, but in the last couple of days internet comments were overwhelmingly negative for him. |
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I'd have all my savings at Evens he'd have won if they'd not rammed home over those final episodes him cheating on his bird with Noirin and had done some fair edits. Thankfully it was painfully obvious Sophie was the chosen one and I maxed out on her.
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My biggest regret is that, with my views on Siavash, I wasted some of my Sophie green in the final couple of hours greening up the field, ie mainly him.
In the end there was the biggest ever gap between 1st and 2nd place votes, with Siavash miles behind Sophie and only slightly ahead of the other 3. |
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I do think she was a worthy winner, and thought the edits on Rachel were really harsh. iirc I think I was 70% mikey 30% rachel, but was very pleased for her when she won, can't stand the blatant attempts to sway or sabotage. they're going out of their way to promote coirin, just wish I'd have had my fill, it's all conjecture this series for me, at 9.0 avergae I'd have been laughing. wish the big swedes seeded these markets. half a k on and the person moves in 2 whole points.
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yup, she crushed him, they'd derailed him well and truly. my own research showed that he went from winning by a wee fair margin to being trounced, but when you ram someones worst moment by a mile down the throat of the viewers for a few nights in final week that will happen. the minute they did that was the minute it was GSM.
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Angela, what's rmb?
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his original forum name....back in the day
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Every BBBM was a Rachel deramp and she was hardly shown in the final week
Five - to some extent though, doesn't that actually go against your argument and suggest that they do actively go for (or against) the winner? |
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I guess it does slightly, but I don't believe the whole production team were trying to stop her. They just weren't going out of their way to help her.
She wasn't shown much in the last week, because she didn't do much of interest. I very much doubt it was because there was a 'stop rachel' production meeting. The same with BBBM. Clearly Davina didn't like her. She saw her as a 'radar dodger'. I suspect there were other on the show who shared that view, but I don't believe there was concerted effort to stop her winning. She had her fair share of tasks that showed her in a good light. They showed Luke and Rex's rants at her. They showed her kindness to Mikey. They showed the whole VT saga fairly and let people make up their own minds. What I'm arguing against is the view of Angela and others that it's all a fix and that they (the production team) know the winner at the start and they'll do everything to make sure their 'chosen one' wins. That's just b0ll0cks. It's similar b0ll0cks to the idea that eviction and other markets are full of 'insiders' The idiots who came on last night and claimed that, were shown up, yet again, to be the numpties that they are. It also damages special betting as a whole, because it gives potential backers in these markets the idea that they're bent and you can only win with inside knowledge. That's clearly not the case. I've had some nods and winks from people who I know from the forum, which have proved helpful, but the vast majority of my profits comes from hardwork , lots of research, understanding what I bet on and having a good instinctive feel for these markets. I'm sure that's the same with all the other regulars on here who make money on these markets and any other market. |
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oops, that's rather long..
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twoddle, lay low..back high..simples
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Spot on - very well said. Last third in particular.
Everyone who comes on here MAKING UP stuff, PRETENDING to have inside info and to know the figures, etc., should take note of the "It also damages . . . " sentence. It doesn't do any good for any of us as part of the bigger picture. |
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And some of those who really do have some decent info on occasions must wonder why they bother.
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It also damages special betting as a whole, because it gives potential backers in these markets the idea that they're bent and you can only win with inside knowledge.
That's clearly not the case. that is a very valid point, ive lost count ive seen late late big gambles into deep odds on and it loses. its almost like someone is actually passing on dodgy losing information, making it out to be winning info. i take no part in any of the markets apart from the outright one myself, coz i see the next out as too dangerous to play in as was proven yet again. i believe in doing your own research and in this type of market..long hours watching the live feed or reading the live feed...then making an opinion of what might be in the H/L show and betting accordingly. |
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its not really a hard market to win on really is it?? lets be honest , its just very very time consuming.
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It shouldn't be hard if you have the time and a good idea of the type of people who do well in this show.
The 1st week or so is the hardest, when I watch as much LF as I can in order to get a good feel for the HM's core personalities and hopefully spot a hidden gem, like Corin :) Then it's just about riding the waves. Hoping you're there for the dramatic twists, like twinnings, people jumping over the wall and JJ headbutting Corin ;) |
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or Corin headbutting JJ
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Corin about to do a task against a member of the public
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That is the main problem with the 24/7 thing.
Fortuantely I was watching with the twinning & the nomination booths etc. Right place, right time & knowing a bit about the subjects in question can lead to a healthly total. I was tempted to miss this year off due to the effort involved, but since it is the last one.... |
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lol squares.
Both would make her price drop ;) |
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It's the candle blowing task
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LOL I know, wonderful example of double standards.
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tedious task
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yep, very dull
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i got corin at 14 for 60quid so im well happy and would'nt lay a penny at the mo, i actually think it was from comments you made FLL that i got on..so ty...she is lovely in everyway...so far.
my strategy is really to have snippets on, here and there on certain HM that i deem to be value like the corin bet at big odds, under advice of course. but my main strategy is to lay the fav/2nd fav really heavy when they seem to have slipped up, like jj of course....layed at 6.52 av. so its really just a waiting game for me, when the fav blows up..hopefully im there to lay it. steve could be a good lay after his nigeria comment as an example |
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Must admit trying to open the eyes of the majority on here and then being told 'its b0ll0cks' does iirk me somewhat. You could do with meeting a good friend of mine, as well as of Powers and on the production team, you're a Brightonian aren't you? You should come for a beer with us one night, I spill a lot of hot air and certainly appreciate the scepitism as to what I type, but you'd do well to absorb what I've said on this thread. It's verbatim that Belo was the profiled winner BEFORE he'd entered the house. That's not to say ALL winners are as such, and certainly not suggesting that the powers that be aren't adaptable. Belo and the introduction of Samanda being a case in point.
I have no idea if insiders are operating in the markets, and the two are wildly different suggestions. I know for a fact that insiders were at large on the night Anthony won, I know security behind the whole thing has massively increased but there will always be a select few who KNOW the results, what they do with that is unknown. Hardly any money matched yesterday so I doubt anyone with information would risk even bothering. |
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Very well said Fig, agree with every word of your long post.
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I concur Figgy.
It's not a hard market to make a profit on - but you do need time to sit in front of the telly for long periods. |
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Corin beats the viewer
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the viewer had a collapsed lung ;)
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Cheers sean ...and yep Kitten, you have to have nothing better to do for 3 months.
The 'chosen one', squares ;) |
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and most of the others would have struggled with that outfit ;)
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Classic case of groupthink. Of course Figgy is correct in regards of how to make money on here, if you can get a bet on at the bookies then with a medium amount of research it's impossible not to make a profit. I'd say profit margins are at their highest in Specials.
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A touch of star quality in the last 2 HL shows which Im sure the producers would have hoped for when they threw her the ball. They gave her the ammunition and she performed. If there are no hidden character flaws, and only 10 days in thats the unknown, then I think she will be very difficult to beat.
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I have to play devil's advocate on this one (as I haven't backed her of course, lol).
I've been suggesting her as a possible winner to the small sample of females I have watched this year's BB too, and none of them as yet are agreeing. There's a lot of comments like 'she's ok, but there's nothing there is there' sort of comments from them - they prefer more meat to their selections, people like JJ, Mario, even Ben! I could be wrong of course, as she's favourite, but I think a winner needs a little more depth. This may come - but hasn't shown that much sign yet. I just think she needs to prove a little more than a fairly superficial niceness at present to actually win in the long run - though I do think she will almost definitely make the top 4 or 5, she could become an also ran among the others for the win IMO. |
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Plus, we have yet to see her in any conflict - this happens to pretty much everyone at some point in BB, and it is how she appears to deal with conflict that will also be a factor.
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TBH Stu, we had some people round last night who only dip in and out of the show and they were pretty much of the same opinion, and critical (in a "what tf is that" sort of way) about her voice and appearance.
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I followed the HL's on twitter last night andI struggled to find a negative ones.
Lots of people who didn't like her at the start, because of her look and accent, saying they'd changed their minds and how sweet and lovely she is and she's now their favourite. Clearly she could start to grate and people will switch back, butI do see her as a very different character to someone like Kat. She just had the one very annoying cacth phrase, whereas Corin comes out with some fairly witty lines. And she did get involved during JJ's rant, shrewd. The only one to tell him to STFU. |
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I was also surprised , watching LF last night, just how much the 3 withces, Shabby, Ife and Keeva, like her.
She looks safe from noms for weeks. She was also a a very funny bit part player in the shabby/keeva shenanigans. She reminded me very much of Sophie during the night Norin told Marcus about how she felt about Siavash. |
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The show has only been going for less than a fortnight and with the World Cup, etc., going on. I think Corin is a bit of a grower so the avid watchers will be well aware of her good points whereas those who haven't been watching so much haven't fully cottoned on yet. Our guests like Shabby ffs, and thought Corin was defo in her 40s.
Do you mean Kathreya? I couldn't possibly compare Corin to that revolting monstrosity. Corin is more of a Northern Nicola T for me. Speaking of Kat, she got a mention in our local rag recently - due to open a fete or something in some local hell hole like Red Lodge, as if they aren't suffering enough already. |