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Labor's response to the worst GFC since the Great Depression prevented us from going into recession. The stimulus package that was
opposed every step of the way by the Liberals is seen as a model for all future governments world wide in how to deal with an upcoming financial crises like the one the Liberal Party are setting us on now. We were the only country to use such a large stimulus package as all the other countries chose the Conservative/Liberal approach of Austerity which failed in all cases. We had the best performing economy in the developed world throughout Labor's reign. That is why we have triple A ratings from the 2 agencies that judge these things. Something the Liberals never achieved. PEFO came in at 30 billion and Hockey has just about doubled the deficit in 12 months. So if you think 30 billion is a disaster then you must think Hockey is the biggest disaster of a treasurer we have ever had. Howard and Costello p issed the good years where they more money coming in from the resources boom than ever before up gainst the wall. The Liberal Party would have chosen Austerity rather than Stimulus as they proved by opposing every move Labor made before and during the GFC and Howard and Costello had a s hit load of money coming in and they still stuffed it by using it to bribe the voters with 5 tax cuts that are now causing all gov'ts grief. |
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spot on AFL
the whole idea of the Charter of Budget Honesty is that we don't cop that rubbish anymore but they still try and get away with it, very annoying funny thing, well not really, is that MYEFO will be shocking next week - Joe has blown the budget |
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You can't be serious. We never went into recession due to the solid economy the Libs left and a massive surplus and good growth.
The main reason we didn't go into recession was that our banks hadn't bought thousands of bad loans as did the American banks. The stimulus package was a waste of money. Lets break it down. Everybody got $900 (excuse the generalisation) and ran down to Harvey Normans and bought a flat screen TV. Now of that $900, lets say $300 was profit. That means two thirds of our stimulus package went straight overseas, cause correct me if I'm wrong but we don't make them here. The remaining $300 was profit/overheads. So the Harvey Norman staff thank Kevin for their extra commissions and a big thanks from Gerry Harvey who is still laughing. If you wanted to stimulate the economy you wouldn't send all the money overseas. Vouchers that could have been redeemed at local shops would have been a much better idea and actually got us spending in our local economy. Now lets look at the BER, what a waste of money that was. Can you imagine that an empty building, a library or a gym, could possibly cost $900 000 each. That part of the package was once again great for the few but not the many. the unionised building companies that shared the work were grossly overpaid and yes whilst it did create employment the majority of the money went into the pockets of to few. We wont even mention the Insulation debacle. Even after being told it didn't work elsewhere, hundreeds of rogue operators popped up and well you know the rest....... I'm not saying that the Libs are the be all and end all but you guys bang on about broken promises and lies. they happen ALL the time on both sides. GET OVER IT!!!!! As was said earlier in the thread we need a party with compassion and fiscal responsibility, a mix of the social and financial. but this is never gunna happen. We seem to have a cycle of overspending and then underspending. We currently are paying 1 billion dollars a month in interest only payments after borrowing way too much money during the last 6 years. Maybe our treasury should be apolitical. Also, have you noticed we do not see the PM or treasurer on TV everyday like we did during the Gillard reign. I generally believe if they are not in the media everyday they are probably doing a good job. I look forward to some differing points of view. |
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we would've gone into recession without the government spending - sure some of it missed the mark but economists the world over will tell you they did the right thing
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smartitude what total cr ap you post.
http://www.percapita.org.au/_dbase_upl/Australia%20and%20the%20Great%20Recession.pdf That article destroys everything you said about the stimulus as nothing more than b/s straight out of the Murdoch play book. Please post facts not total b/s. All the stimulus measures were on the mark...... it is true that our good financial position was part of the reason we avoided the GFC but it was not enough alone or even the biggest reason. To say the stimulus was a waste of time is laughable in the extreme and just shows what an idiot you are to believe the murdoch b/s. |
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LOL it's so strange how you liberals never said ohh both sides lie ...get over it ....while you were laying
into Gillard for 3 years for her so called lie. Hypocrite. Ohh so that is your definition of how to judge if our treasurer is doing a good job is the number of times they appear in the media. That's so hilarious ...ohh please... |
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The BER outcome: time to correct the record
Bernard Keane | Dec 16, 2010 Here, in a nutshell, is the result of months of expensive work by the Orgill review team examining the government’s Building the Education Revolution component of its stimulus packages: It will support, all up, about 120,000 jobs directly and indirectly, “filling a gap left in demand from the private sector and playing an important role in supporting apprentices and skill retention in the building and construction industry”. The program’s impact was “most pronounced” in its first year, when it was needed most. The new infrastructure is, in the review team’s opinion, “sorely needed, particularly in government schools”. The review received complaints from 294 schools across the entire program — 3% of the 10,000-odd school projects. The review team closely examined 57 projects, nearly all of which were drawn from “the most egregious complaints received by the Taskforce or were selected from our reading of media reports”. Seventeen of those 57 projects were found to fail the value-for-money criteria established by the review team. Extrapolating that 17/57 figure across all complaints (even though the selected projects were “the most egregious”) suggests the rate of valid complaints about value for money is 0.9% of all projects. The review has lowered its estimate of how much more the NSW government paid in order to deliver its projects quickly, from 5-6% to “at the bottom of that range, around 5 per cent”. The total complaint rate even for NSW government school projects, which attracted more than half of all complaints, was 7%. In short, the report is a comprehensive demolition of the campaign that has been run against the program by the opposition — which having missed out with two independent reports now wants a third — and The Australian. That campaign has consisted of claims that the BER was providing poor value for money, that it was useless because it wouldn’t provide any stimulus until after the economy recovered, that the infrastructure was entirely unnecessary, that it was all a “debacle”. In fact, the BER has been a gold standard stimulus program, delivering tens of thousands of jobs, when they were needed, building needed infrastructure, across a vast number of locations, with an almost derisory complaint rate even in NSW, where the government rushed the program as quickly as possible. And what of The Australian and journalists like Matthew Franklin, who has sat in the press gallery bureau and waged a campaign against the program? Or the ABC journalists happy to follow the News Limited line and parrot that the program was a “debacle” on par with the insulation program? Perhaps those journalists should ask the tens of thousands of men and women in the construction industry who still have jobs despite the collapse in private construction since the GFC, who are still in work despite the commercial construction sector grinding to a halt, despite new housing construction going into a precipitate decline this year. Ask the apprentices still learning on the job. Ask their families, their partners and kids. Ask the retailers where they shop. Ask their banks. Check with them if they think it was a “debacle”. That’s not likely to happen either. The media doesn’t like the construction industry, despite it being one of our biggest employers. Maybe it’s journalistic snobbery about manual labour. Or maybe it’s because the only yarn from the construction industry that the media is interested in is about union thuggery. Particularly at The Australian, which led the charge in favour of the Howard government’s assault on the CFMEU — an assault that led to a systematic abrogation of basic civil rights, in the form of the ABCC, and a big rise in workplace deaths. Is it any wonder the Coalition and the media despise a program that has been critical in keeping the industry going since the GFC? |
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smarttitude is just parroting the Murdoch lies. Typical right wing liar. The Liberals campaigned on a bunch of
lies and were voted in because of their lies. The mandate they have is what they said before the election no change to the Pensions ....no change to education...no change to health..and no cuts to the ABC and SBS.. that was the mandate they took to the election and they deliberately lied about them . So to say get over it as if all gov'ts lie to this extent prior to an election is so typically arrogant. |
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good to see the government getting it's right whack for the university advertising campaign - they just aren't reading the public mood at all
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Greg Hunt's hostile attack on the environment
Mike Seccombe As the government walks away from pricing carbon and dismantles climate initiatives, it reveals itself as our most radical in decades. A couple of weeks ago, when the United Nations Environment Program released its annual update on the progress the world’s major countries were making towards their greenhouse gas reduction targets, it did not get a lot of coverage in Australia. This was understandable, in the circumstances. The report got a bit lost amid all the controversy that accompanied the G20 leaders’ meeting in Brisbane, where a succession of world leaders – the United States’ Barack Obama, China’s Xi Jinping, Germany’s Angela Merkel, Britain’s David Cameron, France’s François Hollande, India’s Narendra Modi – embarrassed Prime Minister Tony Abbott by indicating in various ways that they were serious about the global climate crisis that Abbott would rather have ignored. The detailed but somewhat dense “emissions gap” report by the UN simply was not as sexy in news terms as the serial discomfitures of our prime minister by a succession of the world’s most powerful people. Yet the UNEP report was actually more direct in its criticism of the Abbott government’s performance than any of those big politicians. “Brazil, China, the EU, India and the Russian Federation are on track to achieve their pledges,” it said. “Conversely, Australia is no longer on track, due to the abolition of its carbon-pricing mechanism.” Even if Australia’s media – with one or two exceptions – did not pay much attention to this smackdown of the Abbott government’s climate policy, it sure looks as if someone in the government noticed. For this week, even as delegates from around the world were gathering in Lima, Peru, for the latest round of negotiations towards stronger action on climate change, it was revealed that the Abbott government was cutting its funding to the UNEP by more than 80 per cent. Instead of $1.2 million this year, Australia would kick in just $200,000. Over the next four years, the cuts would total $4 million. “In order to bring on this attack on the environment they have to ignore major parts of the ideological heritage that underpins their party.” Environment Minister Greg Hunt said it was simply a matter of priorities. The government had better things to do with the money than donate it to “bureaucratic support” people at the UN. “You’ve always got to make choices in a difficult budget environment,” said Hunt. He seemed sincere. But then he seemed sincere too when he was the Coalition’s spokesman on climate change under Malcolm Turnbull’s leadership. At that time, the policy was to support an emissions trading scheme. The foppish Hunt is apt to become petulant when it is noted that his university thesis argued for market-based solutions to addressing pollution issues. These days he advocates the government’s so-called Direct Action policy, which would pay carbon-polluting industries to reduce their emissions. In the grand scheme of things, of course, the withdrawn UNEP funds were small beer, but that’s not the point. The decision looked very much like payback. And the suspicion is made stronger by the record of this government in targeting those who advocate for environmental issues in general, and climate change in particular. Heck, this government is prepared to go after anyone. Even the president of the United States, who made the entirely reasonable statement that climate change poses a threat to the Great Barrier Reef. Showing hostility As we hit the halfway point of the Abbott government’s first term (it is 15 months old and the average time between Australian federal elections is 30.3 months), it seems fair to say its unceasing attacks on the environment and environmentalists mark this as the most hostile federal government in many decades. It has been relentless virtually from day one, as Tim Flannery, former head of the Climate Commission, can attest. “Almost the first act of Greg Hunt was to phone me and say we were being abolished,” says Flannery. “Not only did they abolish it – we knew that was coming – they took down the website, on which millions of dollars had been sent, and [which] was being used by people like teachers, farmers and others all around Australia. “So we got together with some bright young people to look at crowdfunding. And within a week we had come back as a not-for-profit organisation, the Climate Council. We now have a budget of about $1.75 million a year, thanks to individual Australians. And we find we can be more effective outside government than inside.” The Abbott government saved itself some money there, but there is good reason to believe its action was motivated as much by ideology as by fiscal restraint. It and its backers in the fossil fuel industry just don’t like anyone talking about climate change. Consider its attempts to abolish the Clean Energy Finance Corporation. The CEFC is commonly derided by members of the Abbott government as “Bob Brown’s Bank”, but it was set up with a board and staff of hard-headed finance and energy sector experts, and chaired by Jillian Broadbent, one of Australia’s most prominent businesswomen and a Reserve Bank board member. The CEFC’s role is to co-invest in and secure finance for renewable energy projects, on commercial terms. Thus government stands to make money from its operation. Yet the Abbott government remains intent on shutting it down. So far the senate has blocked their plans. So why the determination to abolish a body that not only helps preserve the environment, but also looks to return a tidy profit? Broad attacks David Ritter, the CEO of Greenpeace Australia, sees it as part of a broad opposition to “green” concerns. “They seem to see this as another front in the culture wars,” he says. “I think that’s deeply sad. In the liberal tradition, the relationship with the natural world is fundamental to our experience of freedom,” says Ritter. “In order to bring on this attack on the environment they have to ignore major parts of the ideological heritage that underpins their party.” The reality is, the Abbott government is way out in right field on the environment, even by comparison with past Coalition governments and conservative governments overseas. Kelly O’Shanassy, CEO of the Australian Conservation Foundation, points to concrete examples of this. Another instrumentality the government is trying to kill is the National Water Commission, which was established to give expert advice on the allocation of scarce water resources in this, the driest inhabited continent. At time of writing, a bill to abolish it was listed for debate in the senate. It appeared likely to be defeated. “The National Water Commission was set up by the Howard government,” says O’Shanassy. “The Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act also was put in place under Howard.” The EPBC Act, which was designed to protect and manage the effects of development on fauna, flora and heritage considered to be of national or international significance, is considered to be Australia’s key federal environmental protection law. But the Abbott government considers it a hindrance to its plan to devolve environmental approvals back to state governments so as to allow the acceleration of major resource projects. “Coalition governments have in the past put some good environmental policies in place. There are a number of others I could name which were done under Howard. “These people are way out to the right of the Howard government. I can’t recall another government as bad as this one. They seem almost to take pride in showing ignorance and causing outrage.” She quotes Tony Abbott’s blunt assertions that “coal is good for humanity” and that Australia has “too many trees locked away in protected forests”. Then there was Joe Hockey’s declaration that the sight of wind turbines erected near Lake George ruined his drive from Sydney to Canberra. He found them “utterly offensive”. One might wonder then what the treasurer makes of the flight of renewable energy investment from Australia, propelled by uncertainty about government policy. Perhaps this pleases the aesthete in him. “People were looking at investing billions, for a return over decades,” says Flannery. “Obviously they get a bit nervous. They don’t want to invest into uncertainty. “We’ve lost about $1.8 billion in potential investment to overseas just this year. That’s about 70 per cent of the investment that would otherwise have been made here,” he says. Hockey blinkered All the indications are that Hockey truly doesn’t get the reality of climate change. Not at all. When asked by Barrie Cassidy on the ABC’s Insiders program last month whether he thought climate change constituted a risk to economic growth, he answered bluntly, “No. No, I don’t. Absolutely not.” Little wonder then that many environmentalists despair. Space does not permit a comprehensive list of all the government legislation, funding cuts, appointments, comments and other actions that have outraged environmentalists, but let’s touch quickly on a few more examples, in no particular order. The government asked the United Nations to delist 74,000 hectares of Tasmanian World Heritage forests. It was refused. It has initiated a review of Australia’s network of marine reserves, much of which is also a legacy of the Howard government, as well as the Rudd and Gillard governments. Years of scientific analysis and community and stakeholder consultation will be redone. The clear intent is to reduce protection. The government has defunded Environmental Defenders Offices around the country. Even given Abbott’s reluctance to engage with the scientific evidence of global warming – you might recall he once called it “crap”, although he has latterly said he accepts the reality – he saw no need to have a minister for science. And the budget suggested the government does not think it needs nearly so many scientists either. It cut more than $110 million in funding from the CSIRO over the forward estimates, resulting in some 500 job losses, many of them in environmentally related areas such as marine and climate science. Then there were Hunt’s rushed approvals of massive new coalmines and port facilities in Queensland, apparently driven by the desire to push more coal into the world market while there still was a world market for coal. The indications, as we’ve reported here before, are that they were not quick enough. The massive coal deposits of the Galilee Basin now look uneconomic due to the plunge in coal prices. Community opposition also resulted in a change to the plan to dump millions of tonnes of dredge spoil from the associated Abbot Point coal terminal expansion in Great Barrier Reef waters. They will now be dumped in sensitive wetlands instead. Hunt also approved the West Australian government’s controversial, and now abandoned, plan to catch and kill sharks to protect swimmers. But his pre-election promise to send a customs ship to Antarctic waters to monitor Japanese whaling was broken. Coincident with last month’s G20 meeting, the United Nations pressed the world’s rich countries to contribute to a new climate Adaptation Fund, a $10 billion pool of money intended to help poor countries adjust. The US has pledged $3 billion. Britain, under a conservative government, agreed to $1.1 billion. Japan, also under a conservative government, promised $1.5 billion, and Germany and France about a billion each. Even Tony Abbott’s “ideological soulmate”, Stephen Harper of Canada, has committed $265 million. Most developed countries – Korea, Sweden, Finland, Norway, Switzerland, Spain, the Netherlands – have pledged, as have other less-well-off countries such as Mexico and the Czech Republic. Not Australia though. RET review Perhaps the most cynical of the government’s anti-environment ploys was the review of the Renewable Energy Target (RET), under which the previous government had committed to having 20 per cent of Australia’s electricity sourced from renewables by 2020. The fix was in from the start, with the appointment of a self-declared climate change sceptic (read “denier”), septuagenarian businessman Dick Warburton, the former chairman of the petrochemical company Caltex, to lead the review. Things did not go to plan, however. Modelling conducted for the review showed that while the RET would push up electricity prices in the short term, it would bring them down in the medium term. In any case, the Warburton report findings became irrelevant because it became apparent the government could not muster the numbers in the senate to knock off the RET. Instead it proposed to keep it but cut the target from 41,000 gigawatt-hours to about 25,000. The Labor opposition agreed to negotiate, but only on the basis of a much smaller cut. The negotiations failed to find a compromise, leaving the RET in limbo, which no doubt suits the fossil fuel industry fine. The uncertainty is stopping investment in renewables. Now we come to the biggest issue of all, and arguably the government’s biggest win since the election, the abolition of the Gillard government’s carbon tax and its replacement with Greg Hunt’s Direct Action policy. Put simply, the new scheme differs from the old one in that, instead of taxing big polluters for polluting, it will pay them to pollute less. But the details are anything but simple, as a result of amendments demanded by the Palmer United Party and independent Nick Xenophon in return for their support in the senate. The consensus among environmentalists who actually understand it all is that the legislation was significantly improved as a result. In particular, they like safeguard provisions inserted by Xenophon, which ensure that industry cannot simply take the government’s money for emissions reductions and then not reduce them. These provisions are seen by some as a backdoor way of allowing the Direct Action policy to evolve into a means of putting a price on carbon, by exacting penalties from recalcitrant polluters. Which, if they are reading it correctly, poses an interesting question. Did Hunt sneak one past his colleagues? He was once a fervent believer in market-based solutions. That 1990 university thesis he co-authored was titled “A Tax to Make the Polluter Pay”, and its conclusion was that “harnessing natural economic forces” was the best way to effect change. Others think that theory altogether too Machiavellian. At best they see Hunt’s position in the Abbott government as being analogous to that of the minister for women’s affairs in Saudi Arabia: that he is more enlightened than the others, but not much. He looks good only in comparison with those among his colleagues who would have preferred to have no carbon abatement scheme at all. Others don’t even give Hunt that much credit. They see a careerist politician prepared to shift his position as required for advancement. In any case, he has delivered big time for his leader and his colleagues. They went to the election promising to abolish the carbon tax, and Hunt made it happen. That’s very important to members of the Abbott government, given all the promises made before the election that were subsequently broken or blocked in the parliament, or that were, like the “no cuts to the ABC” pledge, simply lies. Promises, promises In times of stress, there is a mantra they all repeat: “We promised to repeal the carbon tax and the mining tax and stop the boats.” Whenever there is a suggestion they have not achieved much that is positive in more than a year of governing, they refer to that holy trinity of promises kept. Let’s go to examples. On Monday this week, when Abbott held his epic press conference and mea culpa over the ABC and various other snafus of the preceding week, he repeated it. Likewise in parliamentary question time on Wednesday, Hockey was doing his best to appear like a man with a plan for the economy, notwithstanding all evidence to the contrary. New official statistics had just come out showing Australia’s gross domestic product had all but stalled in the previous three months. It was far worse than even the most pessimistic analysts’ forecasts. Respected economists were talking of an “income recession”, a new term referring to the fact that while Australia is not yet in recession according to the traditional measures, the net disposable income of Australians has declined by 0.8 per cent in the quarter and a whole per cent over the year. The dollar is falling like a stone. The outgoing head of treasury, Martin Parkinson, was warning of declining living standards without major economic reform. Meanwhile the government’s benighted attempts at reform – $22 billion of them – remained stuck in the senate, for the very good reason that non-government senators know the measures are recognised by electors as being grossly regressive in their impact. The government’s core election promise of returning the budget to surplus was disappearing into the distant future, and the bottom line had just deteriorated by another $3.5 billion, that being the extra cost to reform the university sector, after the senate rejected the original plan the previous day. The treasurer sounded tired. It was another dispiriting day in a long succession of dispiriting days at the **** end of a dispiriting parliamentary year. Naturally, Hockey fell to talking about the abolition of the carbon tax. “Thank God we got rid of the carbon tax, which hit at the beginning of the September quarter,” said Hockey. “Energy consumption lifted, that is quite a stark indicator of how significant it’s been.” Well, yes, the abolition of the carbon tax has been very significant, but not in the way Hockey suggested. The true significance of the abolition of the carbon tax was shown in this week’s carbon emissions index report, from analysts Pitt & Sherry, which flatly contradicted the treasurer. In fact demand had fallen, the report said. What had increased was emissions of carbon dioxide, the main contributor to climate change. They rose some 3.2 million tonnes. The abolition of the carbon tax resulted in the share of electricity generated from renewable sources falling and the share generated from fossil fuels, particularly the dirtiest of them, brown coal, increasing. “If the trend continues,” says Hugh Saddler, who wrote the report, “by the end of the current financial year, it will amount to an increase of about 1.5 per cent of Australia’s total greenhouse gas emissions.” Saddler notes Australia’s commitment to reducing its greenhouse gas emissions by 5 per cent by 2020. “So the task has got about a third harder in just one year,” says Saddler. Of course the treasurer did not mention that. Nor did he mention the fact that the abolition of the carbon tax is part of the reason the government is having so much trouble finding the money to spend on things such as health and education. Hockey’s own budget papers show the total revenue foregone as a result of scrapping the tax is $6.22 billion over the next three years. Add to that the $3.2 billion cost of Direct Action, and you begin to see that the government’s environmental agenda is actually pretty expensive. Costly to the budget, to taxpayers. Costly in terms of services not provided. And, above all, to the planet. ............................................................................................ What a pack of environmental and economic vandals. Driven by an ideological zealotry and backed up with a dose of religious bigotry wrapped around right wing extremism that was never laid out pre election and should be rejected next election and the COALITION punished with years in the political wilderness where that belong. |
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Agree with womble and smartitude.
We need a government that combines sound financial management with a social conscience. |
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Ha ha well you wont get either with this mob of vandals.
........................................................................... Julie Bishop steps up lobbying to stop Great Barrier Reef being listed 'in danger' Australian foreign minister to use Lima climate talks to warn other nations that downgrading the reef’s world heritage status would set a ‘dangerous precedent’ Great Barrier Reef coral bleaching Rising sea temperatures has led to widespread coral bleaching on the Great Barrier Reef. Photograph: Oliver Milman Tuesday 9 December 2014 Julie Bishop has intensified diplomatic efforts to avoid the Great Barrier Reef being deemed “in danger”, claiming any listing would set a “very dangerous precedent” that would affect other heritage sites around the world. Bishop, who arrived in Lima for climate change talks on Tuesday, will use the trip to escalate Australia’s lobbying of other nations to avert the Great Barrier Reef being downgraded by Unesco’s world heritage committee next year. The committee, comprised of experts from 20 countries, will decide whether the reef, which has lost half its coral cover in the past 30 years, should be listed as “in danger”. Bishop said there is “no justification” for this to happen, warning it would have negative international ramifications. “It would send a message around the world that even if you meet all of the criteria set out by the world heritage committee, there is still a risk that they will place an area on the in-danger list,” she told the Courier Mail. “It would have significant implications for Australia but it would also set a very dangerous precedent for countries who don’t have the opportunity to take the action that Australia has.” Referencing the sustained campaign by green groups to highlight the declining state of the reef, Bishop added: “Every country that has an environmental icon that activists seize upon would be at risk.” At a meeting of the world heritage committee earlier this year, delegates “noted with concern” a plan to dump five million tonnes of dredged material within the reef’s world heritage area. That plan has now been reversed, with a new proposal to place the sediment on nearby wetlands. Advertisement Unesco has also questioned port expansions beside the reef, as well as water quality. The Australian government has said it is properly managing both of these issues. The reef faces many other pressures, however, with a recent Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority (GBRMPA) report warning: “The overall outlook for the Great Barrier Reef is poor, has worsened since 2009 and is expected to further deteriorate in the future. “Greater reductions of all threats at all levels, reef-wide, regional and local, are required to prevent the projected declines in the Great Barrier Reef and to improve its capacity to recover.” The GBRMPA, the government’s reef agency, said climate change was the leading threat to the coral ecosystem, with pollution and a plague of coral-eating starfish also contributing to its deterioration. The government has put together a long-term plan, called Reef 2050, to protect the reef, although the Australian Academy of Science has criticised it for being inadequate to prevent further decline. Jon Day, who was director of heritage conservation at GBRMPA until July, said Bishop was mistaken in her analysis of the reef’s condition. “What it comes down to is whether the reef’s values are being lost and the government’s own report shows that they are being lost,” Day, who was at GBRMPA for 28 years, told Guardian Australia. “In the government’s strategic report, over half of the reef’s 41 outstanding values are showing a deteriorating trend and that is what the committee will address. “The GBRMPA’s report mentions climate change as the number one issue and yet the long-term plan mentions very little about climate change. The Australian government clearly sees an in-danger listing as embarrassing. We don’t just need business as usual here, we need to go beyond that in order to protect the reef.” Day said a commitment from Greg Hunt, the environment minister, to ban the dumping of newly dredged spoil was a “furphy” because it relates to the reef’s marine park, not its larger world heritage area that includes port zones. Terry Hughes, director of the ARC Centre of Excellence for Coral Reef Studies, said Bishop was guilty of “wishful thinking” over the reef’s condition. “Her claims are contradicted by her own government’s reports, which couldn’t be more clear that the reef is deteriorating,” he told Guardian Australia. “On one hand the commonwealth government is saying the reef is in poor condition and getting worse and on the other they are saying it’s the best-managed coral ecosystem in the world. Well, clearly it isn’t.” The government’s lobbying efforts over the reef have gone on for several months, with Hunt and Andrew Powell, the Queensland environment minister, reportedly travelling to Europe to explain why the in-danger listing should be avoided. Unesco chief Irina Bokova told Guardian Australia last month that Australia had started to address concerns over the reef’s health. Dermot O’Gorman, chief executive of WWF, said: “We’re concerned that rather than redoubling efforts to save the Great Barrier Reef, the government is redoubling efforts to use diplomatic muscle to feed into the world heritage process. “We have been communicating the message, from scientists, that the reef is under threat. Rather than blame green groups for talking it down, there should be a focus on how to turn it around.” |
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The committee, comprised of experts from 20 countries, will decide whether the reef, which has lost half its coral cover in the past 30 years, should be listed as “in danger”.
................................................................................................ Lost half of its coral cover in the last 30 years..................but this disgraceful bunch a Science hating Climate Change denying environmental vandals don't want it listed as in danger and deny it is in danger. Abbott and the Liberals are wrecking the joint. It will take years for this great country to recover from this concerted attack on its health and beauty by this mob of zealots. |
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Are the Liberals still open for business.?
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The main difference between the old co-payment plan and the new co-payment plan is that the new co-payment plan is newer.
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Does Abbott really think people are so dumb they won't see through his $5 GP tax???
PMO in chaos WORST GOVERNMENT EVER |
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Fair go, comrades. It's $2 less. You could buy half a latee with that
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Is it Phil? or will doctors charge an admin fee as well?? - the GP Tax
now we hear they want to charge country people more for using the NBN and everyone that hasn't hooked up yet up to $900 to do so - The NBN Tax What did Abbott say - no new taxes??? WORST GOVERNMENT EVER |
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Ha Ha Abbott inadvertently admits that his party is riddled with mysogynistic sexists.
Thought he had a chance to be cute and cry the sexist line he has been accused of all his life so he Says Credlin would not be being criticized if her name was Peter not Peta.......Interviewer says well that is a criticism of your own party because it is them that are doing the criticizing. Then it hit him........OWN GOAL......What an oaf he is. ![]() |
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unbelievable isn't AFL - after all that ranting about gender card he plays it himself
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i havent been blockedbybishop yet
![]() poor ole Asbestos Barbie Bishop..what a **** the LNP must have a bot analyzing tweets and blocking on a keywords basis. Think about that...what ****s imo |
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what's the old saying - if you can't run your party, you can't run the country
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Just ask Kevin or Julia or Kevin.....they can tell you all about that.
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You have either a very short or a very selective memory.
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![]() futile rebuke smarti.. check how much legislation kevin,julia,kevin got through parliament.. and in breaking news..an LNP statement.. "In keeping with our philosophy of open & transparent government, we'll be making all major policy announcements via Julie's Twitter account" ![]() |
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They are a rabble................. They lied to get into office and then present a dog of a budget based on
lies and dog awful policies. Hockey sold it well they all sold it well but you cant make strawberry jam from s hit. Abbott always had a use by date and should have been dispensed with prior to the last election. He is now their weakest link. The Coalition deserve to be punished for giving us Abbott..... and they will be.... Ha Ha Ha. |
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no issue there Smartitude - the Kevin / Julia / Kevin debacle has given us this bunch of clowns
![]() ![]() ![]() MYEFO day, budget blows out - Hockey already telling lies about how he never promised to deliver a surplus when he did MANY times. Reality of running the economy is starting to hit And at the same time we have the party in chaos WORST GOVERNMENT EVER |
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Another 6 Billion debt racked up by Liberals over last 6 moths........Like the recently demolished Victorian Liberals they are not business minded.....have not got a clue. Abbott wont last the distance.
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And Hockey will be outed under section 94a by his own party.
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94a
![]() ![]() ![]() distractions are out of the way now and the focus can turn to the budget mess this government has got itself into with it's terrible choices $40 billion deficit this year, it will be more if they don't change some settings. $100 billion blowout over the forward estimates - and all from someone who "promised" a surplus in their first year of government and every year after that - although he denies that now ![]() ![]() ![]() Doing the job isn't as easy as talking about it Joe??? WORST GOVERNMENT EVER |
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even Ray Hadley gives Abbott a D-
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who the fk thought 'relationship vouchers' was a good idea
![]() ![]() Kevin Andrews spends $20M taxpayer only to learn he is an idiot....I could have told him for free ![]() ![]() |
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good to see Uncle Arthur finally accept reality and resign as assistant treasurer
if Abbott has any brains at all he'll make some pretty big changes - i won't hold my breath WORST GOVERNMENT EVER |
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reshuffle day - sounds like at least a couple of changes and potentially 100% increase in the number of females on the front bench, don't get excited folks - we are looking at going from 1 to 2
![]() ![]() ![]() Hockey seems to be a bit upset at being found to be the "worst treasurer in the last 40 years" - truth hurts WORST GOVERNMENT EVER |
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Morrison to Social Services
![]() ![]() ![]() Ley to Health is a good move as is Frydenberg to Assistant Treasurer Andrews to Defence ![]() ![]() ![]() Dutton to Immigration ![]() ![]() ![]() But still WORST GOVERNMENT EVER |
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oh dear Morriscum..Having ruined the lives of thousands of refugees, Abbott now wants Scott Morrison to ruin the lives of everyday Australians ![]() altho he's appointed just in time to implement Andrew Forrest's 'Free Indigenous Labour' scheme. ![]() ![]() and Credlin keeps her role as Mother Superior also good to see Abbott isn't driven by Polls on the reshuffle. ...If he was he'd get rid of the worst treasurer in 40yrs ![]() in all seriousness this reshuffle of the deck chairs on the titanic does absolutely nothing to spare our community from pain of Abbotts **** Budget, just new faces sprouting same **** agenda IMO |
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Nice to see you guys maintaining the rage. The coalition is still the favourite for the next election but the gap is narrowing, have you gents been putting any dollars down on Labor?
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id put my house on if Albo was leader..cos....
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