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Talking of coherent sentences....nice try Porky, i see you did at least make an effort.
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u like to tickle the balls dont ya
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If thats some sort of Aussie chat up line i'm not interested Porky...
 Try Mugsy.  |
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come on no need to hide ur h0mos3xuality anger by attacking us
i see pain hidden in ur pride just come out itll be a better place |
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I'm sorry Porky,dyslexia is not an affliction i should be mocking.
I think your very brave...  |
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then let me ask u this,why do u come here every day starting and stating the same old garbage
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You must have mistaken me for someone else surely.
I thought you would appreciate my input into the forum which you'd have to admit is a bit dull to say the least. After all its not often you get to have a conversation with someone like me. |
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After all its not often you get to have a conversation with someone like me.
yea ur gay |
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You wish.....
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Alright
For startes if AOB is such a great trainer,why 1. if he hasn't figured out the horse why is constantly running it and under preparing it 2. taking him over the world,shouldn't he be prepping and working the horse more 3. after his second fail attempt decides only now he can't handle the turf 4. racing him left and right,how is SYT suppose to know if hes in a race or in a track work(to the idiots,horses who races right may think in a left race its a gallop and vice versa) 5. Why does he need to set up races if his horses are so dominate(what was those races where the pacemakers were opening up to let the favoured runner get rail run) 6. why does he avoid the good horses with his good horses? Slabster,Snow fairy / SYT comparsion,Snow fairy was 3-4Ls superior to GH when GH was ridden from behind now if they meet and GH has a 2-4Ls HS whos going to win?? yet SYT was destroying horses who GH is struggling to beat??? His record looks good with all those Grp1s,but how many of those were really GRP1 on the world level(starters,tactics,prize money,competition) sweet fk all |
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He said in a interview a while ago, he noticed how SYT has a high cruising speed...bet you he's taken the sprint out of the horse to try and gain fitness
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Very inpressive Porky did you type that out all by yourself?
You've done Magnus Magnusson proud.. If AOB is guilty of anything its the fact that has been making excuses for a horse that is clearly not good enough. I don't know if you have seen Ballydoyle but it is the greatest place on earth to train a racehorse the finest stables,swimming pools, solarium's and certainly the finest gallops ever devised,left handed,right handed, uphill,straight, grass,woodchip,polytrack any surface you want in fact. The horse had every advantage he could have. Incidently i've never stated that he is the greatest trainer in the world although if i was composing a list he'd have to be on there along with John Oxx,Jim Bolger, Henry Cecil,Barney Curley and Andre Fabre. |
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Here you go Porky watch and learn.......
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfQjBpvh1Nw&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnmcdcyoJFg&feature=relmfu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmfNhsczhv8&feature=relmfu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxag3l7elm8&feature=relmfu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF8BhQnm8bs&feature=relmfu |
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Hes training a speed freak and he cant train speed,in fact before he even made it he had one good horse who was a fkn hurdler,hes blessed with good horses. Thats why he cant figure SYT out,our trainers treat horses as individual hes a factory trainer plain and simple.
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Can you name me one other trainer who travels the world with pacemakers ready to get slaughtered??
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Come on shoe hammer man, answer the pig
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"ankles" ( loves topfarriers new nic
) must have ran out of turps.9 hail mary's ankles, drinking turps,have some fcukin pride, clean yourself up, its good friday...... HIC* PS.....yeah like crow said, answer porks |
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"ankles" heading home from the australian thread
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Porky:
1) The horse is fit, is he meant to leave him in his box? He's not under-preparing him, that's as good as the horse is. 2) If everyone took this attitude no horse would run outside their own country. 3) Wtf this this even mean? 4) Most other horses seem to handle going both ways, maybe the great So You Think cannot? 5) I saw no pacemakers in Dubai. 6) Please give me an example of this happening. Every year he goes out of his way to take on the best around (Sea The Stars, Canford Cliffs). Regarding the Glass Harmonium formline, in the race to which you refer Glass Harmonium finished 2nd last in a field covered by 5 lengths at the finish. Do you honestly believe that all the runners are that closely matched? The race was run at a slow pace which did not suit the good horses coming from behind (Cirrus Des Aigles, Vision D'Etat, Planteur, Snow Fairy). That she managed to win in spite of the race not being run to suit is a testament to her ability. She's miles better than Glass Harmonium. The only Group 1's he has won here worth talking about are the Eclipse and the Irish Champion Stakes. Yet judges on this form he is no more than 2-3lbs better than Workforce or Snow Fairy. |
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Maxim-Reality
01 Apr 12 13:40 Joined: 25 Mar 12 | Topic/replies: 755 | Blogger: Maxim-Reality's blog Don't worry spoony,the subject of SYT is now ended.Overhyped,overrated and over here.BC is next. Rate reply: | report block user Yet still winning group 1 races at will |
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topfarrier
If AOB is guilty of anything its the fact that has been making excuses for a horse that is clearly not good enough. lol topf ... he's an average production line foreman ... posing as a trainer and horse campigner forget the pre-europe campign when he UNDER-TRAINED SYT after a full campaign to the Arc .. he then runs again 13 days later back in the UK .. clearly at the end of his teher that prep ... but NOT FOR AIDEN who decides to fly him over to america 21 days later ... to run on the dirt for the first time ... against the lasix locals ... in the Breeder's Cup ... ann out and out imbo imo lol ... ffs aiden ... put on your gumboots ... and muck out a stall please ... and let someone else have a go with the training |
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1) how do you know if hes fit or not? do you know his training methods do you? - he said he wasnt fit and hasn't figured SYTs head out and youre trying to say he has?? he clearly stated he cant figure the horse out and continues to run it not only in ireland but the uk,fr,us,dubai -- umm? pure genius
2) were not talking about every day horses were talking about a 50million dollar race horse, a horse that likes to lead not sitting 1L of a pacemaker(LOL) 3) he cant figure by his breeding cup run or trackwork that SYT cant handle AW(Astro turf),not only does he take syt to uk,us,fr and dubai but he runs it on a totally foreign turf........lol 4) Are all horses the same? 5) Not Dubai,AW/Dirt is dominatd by ON PACERS;dont you know this? but every other race,infact look at most of his Grp1 win 1 AOB-2nd last AOB,last AOB 6) it escapes me i'll remember later You answered my question at least,GH is now a improved front runner,no doubt he would beat her but hes way off what SYT was capable of over here hes a factory trainer,ship em in ship em out..i think a factory trainer had Sea Biscuit before they shipped it to a real trainer |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYLTzXFVcb0
OBrien is an awesome trainer and his tactics are second to none, especially when racing in second class 2 mile handicaps in an inferior country with inferior horses.... Hmmmmm |
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AOB's special moment that 2008 melbourne cup, dictated the race with his pacemakers and the best stayer in the world at the time Septemis, what a finish, AOB runs distant near last all 3 runners and who horse wins the race after travelling nearly the entire straight in the lead?
BART !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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With his 40/1 pop. Not to mention his other runner ran 6th. Not going to speculate the odds of that runner, but was no.24 so I can imagine it was a very big price.
Seriously, I can imagine the conversation now with Obrien and his jockey. "I want you to set the pace for my other runners".... Pity he said the same thing to all his starters and as such they were all gone on the turn. rotflmfao... Guy is pure genius. Travels half way across the world with 3 pacemakers all setting the pace for ummmmmm, each other? Hmmmmmmmmm... If this guy is up there in the top trainers in the world, then I am in the wrong job. If he is one of the best, I would be considered the ****ing messiah, and I have never trained a horse in my life. |
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1) Horse looked ready to rock and roll to my eyes, had two previous runs. I certainly know more about his training methods than you do. I've already said why he has said these things, trying to protect the horses reputation. It's proving increasingly difficult to this however as the horse just isn't as good as everyone thought.
2) So instead of running the horse in the big races, he should be at home running up the gallop the whole time? He has to run some time. As I said, if everyone took this attitude no horse would run in the big foreign races. You make it sound like he's the best horse in the world, head and shoulders above his rivals. He is not, and it's been proven time and time again. 3) Seems this great horse of yours can't handle much... 4) See above. 5) Pacemakers ensure a truly run race, no harm in that. The best horse should win with a strong even gallop. 6) Convenient. Glass Harmonium wouldn't see Snow Fairy for dust. Your grasp of European form obviously leaves a lot to be desired. Trust me when I say Snow Fairy would kick Glass Harmonium into touch. have you ever even seen Snow Fairy? Factory trainer? Well that explains his tender handling of Yeats to 4 Ascot Gold Cups, and his superb placing of St Nicholas Abbey since his 3yo injury. Or his work with Fame And Glory to prime him for the big day at Ascot last year. I admit they got the tactics all wrong in that Melbourne Cup. But that is one mistake in how many races? His record speaks for itself. This will be my last post in this forum, because you are an unbelievably blinkered lot here. Might as well be talking to the wall. I'm sure Black Caviar will come over to Ascot and trounce the home team, I hope she does, can't wait to see her. However the amount of sh1te being spewed about So You Think is diabolical. He's not in the top 5 Group 1 older horses in Europe: Frankel Excelebration Danedream Immortal Verse Cirrus Des Aigles The sooner you lot get over that the sooner some intelligent discussion may occur. Good luck. |
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2) So instead of running the horse in the big races, he should be at home running up the gallop the whole time? He has to run some time.
ohhh looky, theres a race he can run in....5 fcukin countries later, 6 counting where he came from |
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So You Think is diabolical. He's not in the top 5 Group 1 older horses in Europe:
Frankel Excelebration Danedream Immortal Verse Cirrus Des Aigles wow frankel, excelebration and Immortal Verse yet to make their first appearance as older horses, pure arrogance dont you think  |
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1) Horse looked ready to rock and roll to my eyes, had two previous runs. I certainly know more about his training methods than you do. I've already said why he has said these things, trying to protect the horses reputation. It's proving increasingly difficult to this however as the horse just isn't as good as everyone thought.
-youre making this up unless you know AOB,and im pretty sure you dont so again youre just making it up 2) So instead of running the horse in the big races, he should be at home running up the gallop the whole time? He has to run some time. As I said, if everyone took this attitude no horse would run in the big foreign races. You make it sound like he's the best horse in the world, head and shoulders above his rivals. He is not, and it's been proven time and time again. -again you dont know much? you take your time with a 50million dollar horse like Frankels trainer has 3) Seems this great horse of yours can't handle much... - just like Galileo over 1000m, just like Sea The Stars over 1200m and on and on..idiot 4) See above. -above 5) Pacemakers ensure a truly run race, no harm in that. The best horse should win with a strong even gallop. -lack of knowledge,horses are individuals some horses may only try when ridden in front/vice versa, doesnt matter if its doesnt like running in the herd it wont run.. 6) Convenient. -Thanks Factory trainer? Well that explains his tender handling of Yeats to 4 Ascot Gold Cups, and his superb placing of St Nicholas Abbey since his 3yo injury. Or his work with Fame And Glory to prime him for the big day at Ascot last year. -How many other horses suvive past 3/4? Not many..u listed 3 I can list plenty more if u want me too,why get rid of a horse thats performing..yeats lol even he got his bummed spanked down under I admit they got the tactics all wrong in that Melbourne Cup. But that is one mistake in how many races? His record speaks for itself. -Tactic wrongs,more like didnt have more then 30% of the field so he failed to fix the race This will be my last post in this forum, because you are an unbelievably blinkered lot here. Might as well be talking to the wall. I'm sure Black Caviar will come over to Ascot and trounce the home team, I hope she does, can't wait to see her. However the amount of sh1te being spewed about So You Think is diabolical. He's not in the top 5 Group 1 older horses in Europe: Frankel Excelebration Danedream Immortal Verse Cirrus Des Aigles - all they need to do is finish second 10Ls behind frankel and theyre ranked higher then SYT..what a laugh The sooner you lot get over that the sooner some intelligent discussion may occur. - who made this thread? and the one before..and before Good luck. |
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COOLMORE Stud has confirmed the imminent retirement of So You Think to stand at stud in Australia.
The eight-time Group1 winner will head into quarantine "in a few weeks time" according to a statement from Coolmore. H0wever, the statement appeared to leave the door open for one final race in Europe. It said: "So You Think will join the roster at Coolmore Australia in September at the end of his racing career, alongside Musir, Uncle Mo & Zoffany." The six-year-oldson of High Chapparal, a top level winner in both hemispheres, was last seen out when fourth in the Dubai World Cup. Aidens probly cost coolmore 30 grand a pop from what they would of got had bart kept it imo |
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That's at a minimum ted but i think most smart owners in australia are intelligent enought to realise that o'briens training destroyed the horse and will remember its outstanding australian performances under the expert guidance of bart rather than his lack lustre efforts under O'briens care.
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5) Pacemakers ensure a truly run race, no harm in that. The best horse should win with a strong even gallop.
What? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6elMmgyzBCk So this pacemaker ensured a truly run race? Seems to me that all that happened here was a horse was pushed along from the start, got out to 6 lengths in front while the rest of the field carried on with their business judging their own pace, then the "pacemaker" became a hinderance with 1000 to go when he fell in a hole and tailed off last. I have seen this so many times it is not funny. That isn't a pacemaker, that is a tearaway horse with no chance of beating a horse home. It is running a horse dead, and in no way is it setting any sort of pace when the other horses aren't sticking with him anyway. A pacemaker by definition is there to set a pace that is productive for who he is making the pace for. That isn't a productive pace, it is just a horse getting ridden hard from the start. A horse running a sprint and costing punters bulk money while the trainers cash in since they knew they were running it dead. Pacemakers are a hugely ridiculous idea in an event that people gamble on, and they can't even get it right. In reality, instead of being called pacemakers, they should be called "horses that have their ears ridden off that do nothing but cost the punters money and become a danger to every other horse in the race"...... Pacemakers? Please. |
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Pacemaker = corruption. Simple as it gets.
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agree..poms dont see it that way tho..
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Yeah, they think they need "pacemakers" to "ensure a truly run race". In Australia we use jockeys.......... Hmmm.
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Sausage jockeys.
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