Although you might be able to feel it or it's affect as you gag for air

All good i'm  outta here ......have a good one guys....

you lot sure do go on a bit

seems - Secong has problems with the science and Thebas is more concerned with the money

both extremely short sighted imo

if the science is right, and I see little reason to doubt it will be mostly correct, it will cost us a hell of a lot more to do nothing than to do something

price on pollution is the way to go

it'll happen Thebas, it's a question of when not if

sure i'd like a faster change but we need to be realistic as well - developing countries need to keep developing

well there you go good morning womble, a bit delayed in posting and here you are

not helping the emissions one bit

TB your q & a are spot on


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That why the illuminati had my housewhite post barred

seriously womble

so you do not think that ever increasing amounts of co2 being dumped into the atmosphere is a problem for this greenhouse effect ?

co2 occurs naturally Thebas and has forever - it's a balance though and we are messing up that balance


especially china,  oh yes and the usa, and of course russia, and then india, and now japan

in fact the top 5 emitters have ravaged the atmosphere with co2 ... and want to dump more

so they are happy to pay the price .. as long as they can burn & burn so pricing it won't stop it

the science has been forgotten in the rush for GDP

and in fact .. china have now surpassed the USA in GDP (wasn't supposed to happen for another decade)

china are no longer a NON-developed country .. yet obama applauds them for saying they will PEAK their ever increasing emmissions in about 15 years

something is wrong

oh yeah .... the fake-for-the-environment wealth redistribution trick is wrong

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china are now the #1 economy

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/its-official-america-is-now-no-2-2014-12-04


china relocating their pollution LOL

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-11-27/chinas-pollution-solution-move-factories-abroad

China’s Airpocalypse, the lung-choking pollution that regularly blankets the country’s north, including Beijing and the port city of Tianjin, has an obvious source: emissions from the belching smokestacks of neighboring regions, in particular Hebei province.

Now authorities say they have come up with a way to address the industrial pollution that accounts for as much as three-quarters of dangerous particulates in the air: Move polluting factories overseas.

Hebei authorities have announced plans to relocate some of the province’s steel, cement, and glass production to Africa, Latin America, Eastern Europe, and other parts of Asia.

developing countries will continue to emit as they continue to grow - hopefully stopping as fast as the can


you have seen the rort that secong pointed out 4 years ago ... with gillard the deceiver ready to hand over our sovereign wealth to the UN

none of that was ever for the global greenhouse situations as gillard the rorter granted gina her new COAL mine straight after her fake tax began

a recession is when an economy DOESN'T GROW for a consecutive quarters

the way the world operates is that all nations are continually growing and therefore everyone is entitled to be considered "developing"

BIGGEST RORT EVER .. secong pointed it all out 4 years ago

ok so now we have to move on from the Julia mine
however we cant move on from being a dirty emitter in the past?
and as TB correctly points out the atmosphere doesn't tag emissions, so the world most dirtiest are pumping out shedloads into the atmosphere in comparison to us and WE have to pay whilst they don't?....(arguably making or not making a difference to the planet)
in the spirit of moving on why the hell should we?
when we and ALL the nations started off spewing emissions no one knew that any such problem with the atmosphere would occur (all innocent....and more than likely still are)
the scenario painted is we are climate criminals and must pay up...what a crocka

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womble the #1 global emmitter and the #3 global emitter ... ARE developing countries

and they do with the blessing (no surprise) of the #2 emmitter

then they say australia should do more and they want our sovereign wealth

(well #1 and #3 don't ask that of us ... just #2 )

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he knows they are not...however they claim to BE , so want to burn all they like (China 16 years!) UNCHECKED whilst the rest of us with measly emissions in comparison are told to hand over billions....

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I wonder if anyone beforehand has done an enquiry into the rort cough err ETS ? not without interference I'd imagine

yep, i tend to agree with you and second on this .... this inquiry (if it comes to fruition) would surely find the ineffectiveness of ets ..... and where to then ??? re funding CSIRO to find some previously undiscovered reactivity of CO2 with somehting else

inquiry

they never expected........ THE INQUISITION !!!!

we pay because we pollute and have benefited from doing so for years


who else pays? please list payees and emissions