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THE CLIMATE CHANGE MYTH that Julia wants us all to pay for
THE CLIMATE CHANGE MYTH that Julia wants us all to pay for
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Human CO2 emissions upset the natural balance of the carbon cycle. Man-made CO2 in the atmosphere has increased by a third since the pre-industrial era, creating an artificial forcing of global temperatures which is warming the planet. While fossil-fuel derived CO2 is a very small component of the global carbon cycle, the extra CO2 is cumulative because the natural carbon exchange cannot absorb all the additional CO2.
The level of atmospheric CO2 is building up, the additional CO2 is being produced by burning fossil fuels, and that build up is accelerating. .......................................... For once and for all please post a peer reviewed paper that disputes these facts. You can't because they do not exist. You are a pathetic deceitful individual. |
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if the major & only considerable effect of increased co2 is the impending greenhouse situation then science should be working on methods to 'soak up' excess co2 in the forms of sequestering or planting more things that actually use co2 for their existence
the idea of getting minor emitters to hand over their sovereign wealth is a non method of halting the greenhouse situation in fact the #1 co2 emitter in the world china is planning to probaly double their co2 output in the next 15-16 years all with the blessing of the #2 co2 emitter ... with the #2 emitter fooling our highly educted but immensely under-researched university students the #3 emitter in the world india is also planning to alomst double their co2 emissionds claiming the right to advance their own nation the #4 c02 emitter in the world russia is doing 'climate change studies in the antarctic' laughung all the way to the GDP bank by sticking it up Bill Shorten and his risiculous rort of joing the failed ETS game  the #5 co2 emitter in the world is currenrtly using as loophole in the UN Green Climate Fund charater to .. have a guess ... build MORE coal fired energy power stations in Indonesia (who currently emit more than australia in co2) the UN backed ... china laughed usa backslapped russian ignored japan tricked ... climate change plan is the BIGGEST RORT EVER bout time people woke up imo |
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Got nothing to do with what i am posting.
He is denying CO2 is a pollutant and also denying the effect it is having. He is either a complete loony to deny the obvious from the overwhelming evidence of the Climate Science community...........or he is deliberately being deceitful. Either way he is completely wrong and should admit it. |
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[i]AFL
Got nothing to do with what i am posting. [i/] ... never said it was AFL just trying to bring this thread back to the RORT that is going on there is no point ... IMO ... discussing the weights a horse has in a race .. if the result of the race is being **** and we can move on to the biigest greenhouse danger yet ... the methane leaks (great while methane burns ie about half the greenhouse co2 than coal - but when not burned like the massive leak "currently under Obama's watch" in the USA where the greenhouse effect according to Greenpeace is 80 to 100 times) --- for example ... a pertinent analogy If a Group One horse race is being run (lets say in Sydney lol) and the Stewards KNEW IN ADVANCE that a horse from the #1 racing stable was using a substance that could affect the safety of the race ... should the Stewards Allow the race to continue … and in attempt to stop the “substance rort” ask all other the trainers in the race that were “ineffectual to the result” to pay up a tax on their stable wealth … to be allowed to stay in the race and race for some minor prizemoney Or ... should the stewards do something else seeing the #1 rorter in the race said they were NOW going to continue to rort ... for the next 16 years And should the #2 rorter in the race pat the #1 rorter on the back saying what a grand plan it is they will stop rorting in 16 years While the #3 rorter says you guys continue to do what you do ... but we’re gonna keep doing exactly the same rorting we have always done ... but it would be great if the #15 stable hands over some of their stable wealth so the races can continue racing And all the while ... the main contenders (#1 to #5) ... saying … “fk the punter” Come on stewards .. stop the BIGGEST RORT EVER |
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Not interested in your garbage either. Because you refuse to discuss the biggest rort of all in Abbott's do
nothing but pay the polluters to pollute rort. Interesting how you were happy to participate in the Political threads whilst Labor were in Gov't but after 6 months of Abbott you bail out and say you are not political. Going to cost the tax payer more than any true carbon price. |
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not interested in your garbage
classic myopic response so you agree the #1 emitter right down to the #5 emitter on the planet should continue ... "business as usual" .. and all will be good if the #15 emitter Australia hands over its sovereign wealth you really need to examine your nonsense AFL ... as it appears a direct c+p from the labor handbook ffs  |
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AFL
happy to participate in the Political threads whilst Labor were in Gov't .. right up until the sweetest result ever imaginable happned to the .. gillard the deceiver end of political interest once the liar was gone it would have been sweet if she had been decimated at the election but an even more delicious end was delivered her own party ... dumped her ... unceremoniously before the election and replaced her with ... the person she knifed in the back ... who was her SITTING PRIME MINISTER at the time her treachery couldn't have been sweeter so politics ended for the only time it is ever important ... election time ... see you in about 2 years on the most boring topic ever .. politics  |
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I drop a piece of garbage on the ground ..........i get fined...............that is how it works.......my car
is blowing a lot of smoke ..........i get fined ...it costs me money if i pollute that's how it works. But under Abbott if you are his mates (Fossil Fuel Industry) he pays me money in advance for not polluting How goods that ????????????? What a mate Abbott is What a rort. |
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Plus he doesn't give a stuff if we go on polluting to the same extent any way all's good if you are a mate of Tony.
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best to keep on the thread topic AFL
can i ask again do you agree the #1 emitter right down to the #5 emitter on the planet should continue ... "business as usual" .. then all will be good if the #15 emitter Australia hands over its sovereign wealth? |
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Sorry you do not own this thread.......i will post whatever i want wherever i want.
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Please post a peer reviewed paper that denies Global Warming and or Climate Change.
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exactly as i thought
and now that you understand your own motives ... there's a plethora of nonsense political threads ... that are awaiting your further input |
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fla refuses to answer any questions EVER!
Never wrong and will belittle you if YOU DONT AGREE WITH HIS PROPAGANDA in support of THE RORT.... excuse me for dropping to his level....but he is a dead set fcukwit |
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AFL
Please post a peer reviewed paper that denies Global Warming and or Climate Change. ... you have again gone back in time ... and are discussing the weights that horses are carrying ... in a RORTED race focus on the race & the result ... expose the rort that is happening in the request for sovereign wealth being handed over ... by those lower on the food chain than the TOP FIVE emitters in the world - who are planning "business as usual" BIGGEST RORT EVER ... going ahead UNNOTICED ... by the myopic and unfocused  |
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So ill be waiting for my cheque from Abbott for a couple of hundred bucks in advance to make sure i don't
drop any garbage or pollute the atmosphere.....that's how it works under the Liberals isn't it??? |
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btw I OWN THIS THREAD....
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Ohh the deceiver is back
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Please post a peer reviewed paper that denies Global Warming and or Climate Change.
Ha Ha Ha you can't even do that because they do not exist |
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Please post a peer reviewed paper that denies Global Warming and or Climate Change.
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abbott .. gillard (still gillard's plan even though shorten helped dump her becuase of her toxic presence)
these are now irrelevant to the global situation AFL the BIG FIVE have thumbed their noses at the world .. yet demand those around #15 in the world PAT UP see it for what it is even the Yanks have detected the obama-deceipt-smell .. and its pretty putrid https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/fuel-fire-fuel-exports-soar-080131538.html Pollution linked to global warming keep rising even though the world's two largest carbon polluters have pledged to combat climate change, with the U.S. committing to deeper cuts and China saying its emissions will stop growing by 2030. It's a dangerous trajectory the U.S. is stoking with record exports of dirty fuels, even as it reduces the pollution responsible for global warming at home. The carbon embedded in those exports helps the U.S. meet its political goals by taking it off its pollution balance sheet. But it doesn't necessarily help the planet. That's because the U.S. is sending more dirty fuel than ever to other parts of the world, where efforts to address the resulting pollution are just getting underway, if advancing at all. While the exported fuel has gotten cleaner, in the case of diesel, about 20 percent of the exports are too dirty to burn here. but obama told our "highly eductaed but totally under-researched" university students that australia should DO MORE ie hand over our sovereign wealth to the UN Green Climate Fund that Japan have found a loophole in - and so are using the FUND to build more coal plants ffs BIGGEST RORT EVER |
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fla you expect thebas to run around looking for stuff whilst you ignore his questions...lol fwit
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Ohh come on it cant be too hard surely after 4 years you would have found one peer reviewed paper that agreed
with you......surely you would have found one to back up your lies. |
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the number #1 to #5 are the emitters
it is our personal responsibility to not be myopic ... or hand over our sovereign wealth .... in the belief the issue will the end there |
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You both are Like Abbott and the Liberals so full of lies and misinformation,.
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are you that dumb fla to pursue what the whole planet knows? of course the climate changes
 its the rort that he keeps highlighting and rightly so and you couldn't give a flying fcuk sending the place broke..... |
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and before we look again at the methane situation which is guaranteed to tip us over the edge ... well you know the planet is in trouble when WALL STREET put there NON-money behind it
https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/wall-street-banks-making-huge-134747165.html As energy prices have been hammered in recent weeks, some of Wall Street's biggest players are nonetheless ready to write billion-dollar checks to finance a nearly $16 billion Gulf Coast natural-gas project for Cheniere Energy (NYSE MKT: LNG), according to documents and people familiar with the matter. The commitments could put banks including JPMorgan Chase (JPM), Goldman Sachs (GS), and Morgan Stanley (MS) on the hook if the market for a special form of natural gas goes south. .... yet another sub-prime junk-bond over-leveraged wall street bubble .. that they will implode just after squeezing their profits out of the impending train wreck |
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Tic Toc Tic Toc waiting for this peer reviewed paper denying Global Warming.....surely they are out there
aren't they? To argue the negative case for 4 years and not produce one per reviewed paper backing your lies means you are a sham. |
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do you agree the #1 emitter right down to the #5 emitter on the planet should continue ... "business as usual" ..
then all will be good if the #15 emitter Australia hands over its sovereign wealth? ANSWER THIS LIKE YOU WERE ASKED FIRST FWIT?????????????? |
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ANSWER THIS LIKE YOU WERE ASKED FIRST FWIT??????????????
Hypocite. |
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 fla when it comes to the rort |
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excuse me for dropping to his level....but he is a dead set fcukwit
maybe I should post the excuse me everytime |
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doesn't anyone else find it amazing
fortuitous even that som eyears after obama the deceiver has put all his energy (pun) behind the anti-coal movement with expectations that coal producers (minor emitters like australia) joing the rort to hand over their sovereign wealth .. that LO & BEHOLD the USA have found they have untapped sqillions & squillions ... and squillions more .. or fnatural gas under their own soil which can make them the #1 producer AND SUPPLIER of the 90% methane based gas in the whole wode world and which has his WALL STREET mates ready to jump on another sub-prime (for the planet) greenhouse situation |
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Ha HA don't like being proven wrong you poor thing. Mr co2 isn't harmful.....
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SC.....I think you should get the base of your brain checked.......you might have an over supply of co2
You do know that can kill you don't you???????? |
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Even though it's invisible.
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and is this methane situation all pie-in-the-sky
is co2 .. really the number one concern at this point .. by climate scientists has the co2 bubble been reached and/or burst well guys .. forget the co2 ... not even NASA are suggesting its the biggest worry at THIS POINT IN TIME old news .. science has moved on ... as it always does thankfully http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/features/200111_altscenario/ Global Warming in the 21st Century: An Alternative Scenario Global warming in recent decades has taken global temperature to its highest level in the past millennium (Mann et al. 1999). There is a growing consensus (IPCC 1996) that the warming is at least in part a consequence of increasing anthropogenic greenhouse gases. Climate forcing by CO2 is the largest forcing, but it does not dwarf the others. Forcing by METHANE CH4 (0.7 W/m2) is half as large as that of CO2 and the total forcing by non-CO2 GHGs (1.4 W/m2) equals that of CO2. Moreover, in comparing forcings due to different activities, note that the fossil fuels producing most of the CO2 are also the main source of atmospheric aerosols, especially sulfates, black carbon, and organic aerosols. Non-CO2 greenhouse gases are probably the main cause of observed global warming, with CH4 causing the largest net climate forcing. ... NON-c02 .. interesting eh |
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and odourless
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