and when you get back from work here's more for you to ponder...

i know people at work that changed how they used power because the price went up - a good thing i think

but we have been slaughtered by the rort despite our power saving efforts...the price is bordering ridiculous

we need reward for effort and it does not happen period

alternatives don't come for free Secong - we need the money to pay for them to get up and running.  Savings will come in the long run

i'll hate to see the carbon tax go but it's gonna be a laugh when it does and people start seeing that Abbott was lying about the $500 + every household is meant to better off

looks like the carbon tax only has a few weeks left - wait and see though

hopefully the senate separates out the Clean Energy Finance Corporation - it's making money and encouraging investment in renewables - surely you guys would want to see it stay

and womble IF the CEFC make money I have no issue with it

Geez the climate change denying ****s at news corpse will be seething palmer got Gore out here

Environment Minister Mike Hunt......what a fcking stooge..he'll have a case of clivius interuptus

farking freezing up here..............record snow falls as well
carbon tax freezing all the participants to death

glad to see it gonski

thebas!!!!!!
you forgot!!!

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sad day for Australia today, well potentially - carbon tax might go today, wait and see though

good to see a lot of the linked things around renewables being kept - well done Ricky

overall we go backwards while the world goes forwards

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we know the european co2 trick scheme failed ... and recently from the UK failed attempt...

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In its short life the Carbon Price Floor (CPF), a tax on pollution that was frozen by the chancellor of the exchequer on March 19th.

Holding down the unloved levy—for four years from 2016—will cut energy costs for businesses and householders.

The CPF’s troubles reflect particularly badly on Europe’s bureaucrats, who have failed to salvage a continental trading system that has long since lost its teeth.

Leaders at a summit on March 20th and 21st expected to forgo most climate chatter for discussions on promoting industry and defusing the crisis in Ukraine.

When Britain’s tax freeze expires in 2020, things may not have moved along much.

al gore buys off a party with a billionaire at the helm ... with a promise

the big club need a new player at their poker table ... coz the pot is bare ...

and australia are the suckers

unfortunately the only laugh is on ourselves

the silly pointless tax is like peanuts before the main show

its the ETS that has the big bucks primed to strip sovereign wealth and sadly i reckon the club with its lobby will get their way in the end

they will achieve their end by fooling (well meaning i guess) people into thinking a scheme ... that has failed over a 10 year period on a major continent ... will now somehow work ffs   

ffs lol

i keep having to remind myself that you guys may well be genuine in wanting to save something

but then you get the nonsense my poitical party won this round your political party won that round crazy rubbish

if you were on a losing horse racing system for 10 years ... and someone said lets keep at it but just bring in more players with more cash and that will make it work now .. it would be equally as senseless

[u]the historical records show[/i]

- the IPCC themselves said at Cancun 2 years agao ... international climate policy has almost nothing to do anymore with the environment

- the European co2 emmissions trading system has not directly made one bit of change to co2 levels

- the UK co2 tax plan has been shelved by their exchequer until 2020 to help their business and industry

- the australian plan is not supported by the voting public as per our last election


if there is a way to do something about emmisions then lets do it

putting the money through a global banking cartel is a con ... a long con in its develeopment and enlistment of suckers ... and most likely the biggest con never played on humanity at large ... because

it has nothing to do with the environment anymore ... THEIR WORDS   

womble
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Tony Abbott before the election: "There will not be deals done with independents and minor parties under any political movement that I lead”



looks like the carbon tax stays then..unless he's a liar

forgot you were a Queenslander as well Thebas, enjoy the chilly nights

I grew up in Northern NSW and have lived in Canberra - love it when you get a nice big frost followed by a blue sky day. Can get a bit silly at times though, I heard Glen Innes copped a minus 11 during the week - that's a bit fresh

Melbourne weather is pretty patchy - it's not as gray in winter as it was in the past though imo - i.e. more sunny days

I should've gone to the races yesterday but it's too cold this time of year

I'd much rather the summer heat down here though, can't stand the humidity up you way

global warming my arrrrrrrrsssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee its freezing again up here!!
this is all about womble's mates shown here

agree womble plenty we can do re the environment and pollution

but fair dinkum ... we've quadrupled plus the amount od co2 in the atmosphere in the past 50 years

but if the sun ain't out .. its friggn freezing

... lets hope the good ol sun aint offended when people say it has NO bearing on the warmth and heat of our planet

wouldn't want it to pack its bags and leave

agree with womble here reducing pollution is a good thing HOWEVER the ETS carbon tax scam is not the way to do it........chiefly because what tiny reductions are made wont make a scrap of difference to the planet and the filthy fraudsters get away with billions ........fraud is rife in the EU scheme ....

without doubt the
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