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By:
Jez_Punter
When: 22 Mar 11 08:52
A wonderful thread.

The original and still the best.
By:
Joel
When: 22 Mar 11 08:54
Laugh
By:
Mrben
When: 31 Mar 11 02:40
greg combet has signed up australia to give 10% of the OZ carbon tax revenue to the united nationsCryCryCryCrySadSad

apparently they will distribute it to 3rd world countries.Most of which have corrupt govts who will either buy guns with it or give it to their "elite" class.

Another labor nightmare.

Now YOUR taxes can finance civil wars in 3rd world countries.

Who is it now that " can't wait to pay this tax"?Cry
By:
AFL
When: 31 Mar 11 02:50
Could be the Random Tax. [;)]
By:
VeryLTU
When: 31 Mar 11 03:14
well now i'm really pis..ed off !! I'm too old to get the benefit of Mr RAbbits proposed Work for the Dole ramp up. Just because i'm over 50 should NOT mean i can't go selling chocolates and lollies door to door for the next ten years  .... IMO CryCry F OFF TONY... me and my 20000 mates in this suburb WANT to work. ffs how is my old coordinator going to get his next Clubsport IMO !!
By:
secong coming.
When: 01 Apr 11 00:04
what a sick fkn joke mrben - hopefully the story gets publicity
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 02 Apr 11 08:56
Australian's are struggling with cost of living pressures at the moment.

With Labor taxes coming thick and fast - and a carbon tax on the way, times are tough.

People are battling to pay the bills and put food on the table.

Meanwhile..........

Five-star option for asylum seekers
Phillip Hudson & Matt Johnston
From: Herald Sun April 01, 2011


A RUN-down former five-star golf resort was considered to help cope with the asylum seeker accommodation crisis.

Kooralbyn Hotel Resort, in the Gold Coast hinterland, was inspected by immigration officials last May after liquidators called the Federal Government.

Documents released to Seven News after a Freedom of Information court battle show the department said it "could easily be converted to dormitory accommodation and used for single men or unaccompanied minors".

The 100-room hotel has been mothballed since July 2008 but in the 1990s was a playground for the wealthy. It has a small airfield and could be made ready for asylum seekers within four weeks.

Seven News also revealed Puckapunyal army base in Victoria was the No.1 choice to house asylum seekers but the Department of Defence blocked the idea.

The Department of Immigration said 900 men could be put into barrack-style accommodation in 100 decommissioned three-bedroom houses on the base and it was "the most desirable location because it can accommodate large numbers of clients at short notice".

In light of the recent riots on Christmas Island, the documents show the department warned last May that because every bed was occupied it could not manage behaviour and other issues.

A spokesman for Immigration Minister Chris Bowen said the Government had been truthful about the pressure on detention accommodation and had opened and expanded other centres.

"As part of prudent contingency planning ... the options ... were considered and rejected by the Government for a variety of reasons," he said.
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 02 Apr 11 09:02
The incompetence of this government beggars belief.

The Prime Minister said a few weeks ago "the detention centre on Christmas Island is under complete control", as it burned, from fires lit by detainees.

The boats continue to come.  Gillard Labor has failed.
The policy of "Stronger Borders" is a farce.

And now in desperate to accomodate these people who are here as result of Gillard's policy failure, we are turning to five star resorts to house them?......ffs

And to make matters worse, we have the Prime Minister and Immigration Minister insisting the East Timor regional processing plan is in the works - the East Timorese government has flatly ruled it out.  Laugh

This government is a complete failure.  It's a circus. 
From Pink Batts, to a Carbon Tax, to Border policy debacles.

Labor is a mess.
By:
secong coming.
When: 07 Apr 11 00:39
get back up there................ttt



The Prime Minister said a few weeks ago "the detention centre on Christmas Island is under complete control", as it burned, from fires lit by detainees.

LaughLaughLaugh fking hopeless
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 07 Apr 11 00:48
Focus groups clearly telling Labor that an offshore detention centre is popular within the community, so the brainiacs start building a detention centre, offshore in:

TASMANIA....FFSLaughLaughLaughLaugh

Lets intercept them at Christmas Island off the WA coast and transfer them offshore to Tasmania, thousands of KM's away.  Genuises.

All the while the abandoned offshore regional processing centre at Nauru sits idle, having been built by Australian taxpayers, and was undoubtedly a successful tool during the Howard years when border security policy was strong and those feeding the pathetic scum that are people smugglers are disencouraged to make a life threatening journey to our shores.

Labor is a mess - it is as you say hopeless.
It would be funny, if it wasn't so damaging to our nation's interests.
By:
secong coming.
When: 12 Apr 11 02:40
get back up there where you belong...............ttt
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 12 Apr 11 09:10
The message of this thread has never been so fkn relevent.

Labour = tax tax tax and......tax again

I love this thread.
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 13 Apr 11 11:04
Another day, another boatload of illegal boat people.

Another day, another Gillard Labor failure.

When will Gillard Labor meet it's election promises and get serious about border security and re-open the Nauru offshore processing facility that is sitting idle - East Timor is off the cards, it WON'T happen - show some nouse Gillard and re-open the Nauru facility.

Whilst refugee's languish in refugee camps for years and years, these Asylum Seekers pay thousands of dollars to people smugglers to skip the queue - and this government is failing to deal with the numbers - ie. Christmas Island riot debacle.
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 13 Apr 11 11:05
Nauru = less people making the treacherous journey to Australia by leaky boat = less people smuggling = less lives lost.

It makes a great deal of sense.
By:
Mrben
When: 14 Apr 11 07:23
Did i hear right that tony windsor  stated that he wont vote for a carbon tax that change nothing{in relation to the environment}?

Presumably dopeshott and windsor have realized they will be dumped by their electorates in the next fed election following the 25% swing against independants in the NSW state election in their seats.

All these idiots are interested in is power.

If the carbon tax gets dumped- who will replace Juliar? She cannot have another failure and remain leader surely? Is kevvie Dudd making a run?
By:
Thebas
When: 14 Apr 11 07:45
Did i hear right that tony windsor  stated that he wont vote for a carbon tax

not really ... its all angles at this stage .. but the traqnscript is interesting in what he did say

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2011/s3150563.htm
By:
Mrben
When: 14 Apr 11 07:48
thanks BAS, read throught it,, your  right its not quite what he said. But  there may be some cracks around the edges it seems.
By:
Thebas
When: 14 Apr 11 07:58
or he's just negotiating for MORE lol ... his biggest prob apparently is that his electorate is a coal area

hot times to come for that boy mrben
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 16 Apr 11 15:07
Windsor and Oakeshott are under sustained pressure within their electorates on this Carbon Dioxide Tax - ever since Windsor got out into the PM's courtyard the day she announced it, his been watering down his position and backpedalling.  Laugh

On another matter:  apparently the income tax receipts has left our pathetic excuse for a Treasurer a bit hard up for cash for the upcoming Budget.

I wonder if he has started thinking up excuses for when the 2012-2013 "Labor brings the budget back to surplus" deadline, comes and goes.

Labor and surplus' - GOOD-FKN-LUCKLaughLaughLaugh
By:
Aussie Punter
When: 21 Apr 11 04:10
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By:
Jez_Punter
When: 21 Apr 11 04:25
With millions of dollars damage at the Christmas Island detention centre and now at Villawood....I'm sensing the government are due to announce a "asylum seeker levy" to pay for the ever expanding costs of the government's failure to keep our borders secure.

[smiley:crazy][smiley:crazy][smiley:crazy]
By:
Mrben
When: 21 Apr 11 04:26
these dropkicks dont realise that if you keep raising the level of taxation you curtail economic activity and it leads to LESS receipts.

there is a economic "law" for it, I cant remember what its called. Labor has raised taxes federally 40 billion.Labor NSW under KK raise taxes and charges to horrendous level.Add that in.

  Hence there is a 13 billion dollar hole in federal revenues.Swan stated the resources tax " is no river of gold" surprise surprise you imbecile.!!Cry

    Add the burden of a carbon tax on top of the mix, how much economic activity will be smashed?  If china turns up one day and says" thanks we have got big enough stockpiles for a while "   OZ would fold up overnight.

   Labor is unfolding a brutal tradgedy on our country.
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 22 Apr 11 04:27
Labor is unfolding a brutal tragedy on our country.


Never have truer words been spoken, mrben.

CrySadCry
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 28 Apr 11 01:04
$5.2bn 'black hole' in NSW budget
April 27, 2011
From: AAP


An audit of NSW's public finances is set to reveal the situation is worse than first thought.

The coalition government carried out an appraisal of the budget after winning the state election on March 26. That revealed a $4.5 billion shortfall.

However the amount has risen to $5.2 billion, an audit by acting Treasury Secretary Michael Lambert, due to be released on Wednesday, will reveal.
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 28 Apr 11 01:06
With real billion dollar blackholes becoming a constant Labor legacy, it begs the question - how devastated are our finances federally? 

Makes the Gillard Labor claim "back to surplus in 2012-2013" look like some sort of sick joke...LaughLaughLaugh
By:
secong coming.
When: 11 May 11 02:25
bump................
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 11 May 11 09:46
Worth repeating again.

The Gillard Labor claim "back to surplus in 2012-2013" looks like some sort of sick jokeLaughLaughLaugh
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 14 May 11 04:49
.....bump
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 14 May 11 04:52
Departing Labor leader leaves a legacy of misplaced priorities
Angela Shanahan
From: The Australian
May 14, 2011


THE resignation of Australia's longest serving present political leader, ACT Chief Minister Jon Stanhope, will have important ramifications, local and national.

Announcing his resignation, Stanhope cited his proudest achievements as his pursuit of social justice, freedom from discrimination and human rights, which is a fairly broad vision for a very small government that has overseen a marked decline in urban services, disastrous handling of the 2003 bushfires that came within 4km of Parliament House, a domestic water supply crisis caused by mismanagement, and soaring local taxation.

However, under the Labor-Greens coalition in the ACT Assembly, which will be led by Health Minister Katy Gallagher, ACT residents hoping for a more local focus on services can probably forget about it. Expect even more concentration on the ACT as a social laboratory.

While Stanhope was a polarising figure in government, he was the ACT's most capable performer. Losing him could be a destabilising factor for Labor. The bigger problem is that Gallagher has a track record of failure on reform and a transparently ideological agenda.

The most spectacular example of what critics see as Gallagher's failings was her dogged pursuit of the Catholic-operated Calvary public hospital, resulting in a proposal to spend $800 million on a third hospital, in effect spending more money to deliver something that is already there.

The ACT is no stranger to waste, but what a growing number of residents find irksome is that while Canberrans pay the highest rates and taxes of any jurisdiction in Australia, the Labor-Greens coalition's concentration on its ideological agenda has been at the expense of the ordinary services, such as transport and water, for Canberra's 360,000 residents. Perhaps the rest of Australia might not be so complacent about this situation in the ACT if they realised this has also been at the expense of the prestige of the national capital.

Terry Dwyer, a prominent Canberra lawyer and economist who is running a campaign against the blowout in ACT rates and taxes, puts a critic's case against the government: "Mr Stanhope leaves an unfortunate legacy . . . many taxpayers will still be regretting the losses to urban amenity caused by ACT government mismanagement of bushfires and water supply.

"Utility costs have soared in recent years and affect all household budgets. So have cost blow-outs on projects."

Dwyer claims the ACT government has turned water pricing "into a disguised tax mechanism" and faces "the very real possibility that its water taxes will be found illegal by the High Court and ACTEW [the government utilities company] will have to pay many millions in refunds".

"They could have done a lot better, given the unique revenue base the ACT has in its [property] leasehold system," Dwyer says.

However, under Gallagher, Canberrans hoping for more practical government concentrating on service delivery are likely to be disappointed.

For one thing, the ACT's public service has blown out disproportionately to the number of residents. It now employs about 20,000 people for the population of 360,000.

That is not all. Gallagher will be taking over a government that will ensure her more power than under Stanhope because recently all departments of the ACT public service have been amalgamated under the chief minister.

There is no doubt that the territory will remain a social laboratory for Greens-left social policies, with issues such as gay marriage and euthanasia in the forefront.

Gallagher also stands to get more power through the proposed passage in the federal parliament of the so-called territories bill .

The Greens working with Labor have failed across Australia to get up their various agendas on same-sex marriage and euthanasia, but they nevertheless will keep coming back to that agenda in the states and territories through the bill, if enacted.

Former NSW Labor premier Bob Carr's comment to The Australian this week that nothing out of the Victorian or ACT experience would suggest that human rights charters have made the slightest contribution is true.

But it is a bit disingenuous to think that is the only vehicle by which the Greens-left agenda can progress.

Under the eye of Greens federal leader Bob Brown in the Senate, the Greens-Labor coalition in the ACT will continue to run the most left-wing jurisdiction in Australia and use Canberra as a laboratory for everywhere else.

When a territory legislates some radical social reform it puts pressure on the surrounding states to comply. Then state by state the rest of the federation is pressured to comply.

The federal government or the broad wishes of the people of Australia need not be canvassed. This has already happened, for example, with abortion.

The ultimate Greens' aim through the territories bill is to initiate extreme social legislation that will be incrementally legislated across the country.

Just what effect the territories bill will have on the rest of Australia is obvious if you think about it like this.
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 14 May 11 04:59
As an ACT resident, I, along with (I'm sure) thousands of other Canberrans agree wholeheartedly with this succinct opinion piece from Angela Shanahan. 

It's no wonder ideologues like wombleoz love Jon Stanhope.
He was no pragmatic politician.  Or a man of the people.
His drive.  An powerful social ideological agenda.

Left in his wake are the everyday people of Canberra with basic services out the backdoor, a extraodinarily bloated public service (20,000 to service 360,000) and a swag of public art in place of hospital beds.

There have been good Labor Government's across this nation, with achievements I'm happy to applaud, but this Stanhope Labor government, whilst not inept to the level of mismanagement/corruption (ie NSW Labor) has left lasting damage on the ACT.

This territory has been as Angela puts it, "a social laboratory for Greens-left social policies".
It's disturbing that the ACT is trying to press its agenda onto Capital Hill.

If you want a reason NOT to vote Green (ie extreme left wing ideologues) at the next election, take a close look at Canberra.

Economically, we're doing OK, as the seat of the Australian Government, but there are some raw wounds that will take many years to heal when this administration is turfed out at the next election.
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 18 May 11 08:54
Bumpety Bump.....
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 22 May 11 02:28
Queenslanders want early election to vote out Julia Gillard over carbon tax
by Renee Viellaris
From: The Sunday Mail (Qld)
May 22, 2011


QUEENSLANDERS are itching to punish Julia Gillard over her carbon tax and want an early election to kick her Government out of office.

Just eight months since the federal election, voters want to go back to the polls over the Gillard Government's controversial carbon tax.

A Galaxy poll conducted exclusively for The Sunday Mail reveals 66 per cent of Queensland voters believe Ms Gillard should call an election before her tax starts in July next year. An election is not due until November 2013.

Ms Gillard promised in the 2010 campaign she would not introduce a carbon tax now even two out of every five Labor voters say she does not have a mandate and should call an early election.

Just yesterday at Victoria's ALP state conference, Ms Gillard was drumming up support for the tax, saying Labor was a party of courage.

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"We must summon that courage again and tackle climate change. We must summon that courage again and win the fight to price carbon," she said.

But it keeps getting worse for Ms Gillard. A Galaxy poll published in The Courier-Mail yesterday showed federal Labor's primary vote in Queensland had collapsed to 28 per cent down five percentage points from the August election.

Two-party preferred, the ALP's numbers fall to 41 per cent, down almost four percentage points, while the Liberal National Party increases to 59 per cent.

Fifty-three per cent of Queenslanders would prefer Opposition Leader Tony Abbott as prime minister to Ms Gillard.

The slump means that if an election was held today and the swing was uniform, Labor would lose four of its eight MPs in Queensland, including Treasurer Wayne Swan, Graham Perrett (Moreton), Yvette D'Ath (Petrie) and Kirsten Livermore (Capricornia).

Federal Labor would not hold a seat north of the Brisbane River.

Mark Arbib, the man who helped depose former prime minister Kevin Rudd, yesterday said Ms Gillard had "the full support of the party".

The Galaxy poll also showed 59 per cent of Queenslanders wanted Mr Rudd to again lead Labor.
By:
Thebas
When: 22 May 11 02:33
Mark Arbib, the man who helped depose former prime minister Kevin Rudd, yesterday said Ms Gillard had "the full support of the party".

if mark was in the mafia ... then that comment meant there was a contract out aready
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 22 May 11 02:34
Absolutely right Thebas.
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 02 Jun 11 03:34
Bump
By:
Mrben
When: 13 Jun 11 03:07
$ 3000 increase in living costs in 2011 caused by- you guessed it- TAX!!!!

As mooted in this thread many times, the goal of labor is make everyone as poor as church mice through taxing the citizens into oblivion.

Just wait  till house prices start to really fall as people give up and bail their mortgages. The real cost of labor will then hit home.
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 13 Jun 11 03:28
I'm looking forward to tax time.

I'll get to formally hand over MORE TAX to Labor.

In the form of, the FLOOD TAX.

Had Labor not thrown the baby out with the bathwater during the GFC, there would be NO NEED for a new TAX.

Now we'll see a $3000 increase in the cost of living and then a CARBON TAX to boot.

Australian's are being dragged down by one of the most incompetent, dishonest and pathetic government's of all time.  Forget Whitlam or the Inaction-Man Kevin Rudd - Gillard takes the cake.

Time for an election.  We just can't afford more LaborCryCryCryCry
By:
Mrben
When: 13 Jun 11 04:04
oh I forgot  about the flood tax.Cry

flood tax, carbon tax, $ 3000 in extra cost cused by taxes

welcome to you future

lets let in another 20,000 boat people in so we can see 85% of them be on welfare 5 years from now. Raise taxes to feed them.

labor- its a nightmare.CryCryCryCryCryCryCry
By:
secong coming.
When: 15 Jun 11 01:55
oh the pain the pain CryCry



Nothing or double: Budget's home-buyer stamp duty shock Daniel Hurst
June 15, 2011

Home buyers switching their residence will now pay up to $7175 more in stamp duty.

Treasurer Andrew Fraser’s decision to double stamp duty for homeowners who change their principal residence came just months after he labelled the tax an inefficient “relic” that should be scrapped.

Yesterday’s State Budget attracted a mixed response from property and development industry figures, with most welcoming the announcement of a short-term $10,000 grant to encourage people to buy new homes.

However, planned hikes of up to $7175 on stamp duty for non-first home buyers who purchase a new residence to live in were less popular.
Property analysts and the opposition last night argued the move had the potential to deter potential homebuyers or push down prices in an already sluggish market.

The removal of the discount on stamp duty for those buying a new principal place of residence is expected to raise the government an extra $161 million in the coming financial year and $247 million the following year.

The government also expects to give Queensland's 1.4 million electricity consumers a financial boost by scrapping the $110-a-year ambulance levy, while also funding the one-off new home boost.

Property analyst Michael Matusik said although the stimulus measure was likely to boost construction of new homes, the stamp duty hike would be another impost on people.

“It’s sad that stimulus has been found from within the industry. In other words they’re robbing Peter to pay Paul. It may backfire,” he said.

Mr Matusik said stamp duty generally did not have much impact on sales prices, but in the current buyers’ market sellers might have to discount their properties further to clinch a deal.

He said the tax system needed an overhaul, with inefficient stamp duty holding people back from moving around the state.

Mr Matusik said the treasurer had not lived up to his previous rhetoric and should “stop mouthing off about stamp duty”.

In February, Mr Fraser said stamp duty, now formally known as transfer duty, was ineffective and he wanted it abolished with federal government help.

“It’s hard to accept that a tax system that relies on the archaic relic of stamp duty to help fund schools and hospitals is the best we can do as a nation,” he said.


Last night, Mr Fraser said he was still interested in tax reform.

“As I have said publicly, stamp duty can only ever be scrapped if the federation allows states to be compensated,” he told brisbanetimes.com.au in a statement.

“I look forward to taking an active role in the federal tax summit later this year.”

Mr Fraser said Queensland would still have the cheapest levels of stamp duty of all the mainland states and the $10,000 new home boost would help increase supply on the market.

“The fact is, every government has to make choices,” he said.

“In order to implement the $10,000 Queensland building boost and to abolish the ambulance levy, we had to make a policy decision to pay for it.”

Yesterday, Real Estate Institute of Queensland chair Pamela Bennett said the removal of the stamp duty concession for non-first home buyers would wreak havoc on the state’s property market.

From August 1, the transfer duty payable will be the same for investment homes or principal places of residence.

Currently, an existing home owner who bought a property worth $500,000 would pay $15,925 transfer duty if it was for an investment property or $8750 if it would be their main home.

After the changes, the buyer in both cases would pay $15,525, representing a hike of $6775 on a principal place of residence.

The increase on properties worth more than $600,000 would be $7175.

Opposition treasury spokesman Tim Nicholls said the stamp duty increases would be at the centre of buyers’ minds and could force sellers to reduce their asking price.

Mr Nicholls questioned Mr Fraser’s commitment to ending stamp duty.

“When push comes to shove he’s after the money,” Mr Nicholls said.

Mr Nicholls is due to deliver the LNP’s budget reply speech in State Parliament tomorrow, with the opposition yet to spell out detailed economic policies. Mr Fraser called on the LNP to back up its criticisms with alternatives.

- with Tony Moore


Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/nothing-or-double-budgets-homebuyer-stamp-duty-shock-20110614-1g1tq.html#ixzz1PIkqpdhl


another labor hypocrite andrew fraser is treasuer and anna bliars deputy

long odds at next election Laugh
By:
Mrben
When: 15 Jun 11 02:39
Labor and  ANOTHER TAX RISECry

does labor have any other solution other than raising taxes?

you can cut spending you know- it's not against the law.

But then how can the rorts be financed?

Federally  about 1 million was just spent on new desks in paliament house- $ 3400 PER DESK!!!!!!!

where can i get a slice of that rort?, sorry- prefferred supplier contract?[:p]
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